Not a member? Register now!
Announcements
Celebrate MH's birthday and the RETURN OF MANGA!! Start downloading, translating and scanlating manga HERE - legally!
Like us on Facebook, Follow us on Twitter! Celebrate another year of MH and check out our yearbook.
Manga News: Check out this week's new manga: (6/10/13 - 6/16/13)
Site News: Check out our new sections: Information Technology and Theater Lounge.
Events: Bleach Tournament has started! The results of Manga Awards 2012 is out, do check them too.
Translations: Naruto 634 by aegon-rokudo , One Piece 711 by cnet128 , Bleach 541 (2)

View Poll Results: Are they good or bad guys?

Voters
44. You may not vote on this poll
  • Ginjou's good; Tsukishima's bad

    11 25.00%
  • Ginjou's bad; Tsukishima's good

    6 13.64%
  • Both are good

    8 18.18%
  • Both are bad

    19 43.18%
New Reply
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3
Results 31 to 32 of 32

Thread: Ginjou and Tsukishima : Questionable Antagonists

  1. #31
    Registered User 中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Country
    United States
    Age
    25
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    135
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ginjou and Tsukishima : Good or bad guys?

    Even though Ginjou has shown his "true" side I still want to say he's good even if it's showing both Ginjou/Tsuki as collaborators of one another.

    Saying that I think I know what's may be going on, as it's shown right now it appears as if Tsuki's power works on anyone without any limits, now with Shinigami powers I don't think it's possible to freely enter soul society or anything like that, so I just thought. The real purpose of obtaining Ichigo's powers isn't for his fullbring nor his shinigami powers. It's most likely for his Reiatsu. I want to say that he's attempting to create the "king's Key" in an attempt to use his blade to implant into the spirit king that he's always known him or perhaps as the next successor.

    Even though Ginjou mentioned how he was slashed twice, I feel like they shouldn't know that they were slashed twice in the first place. While I guess he could assume he was since he's "back", I feel that if Ichigo's friends ever revert back to their regular selves their have no recollection of ever being slashed nor question it. Now it is possible since he knows of Tsuki's powers he would be aware that he wa sslashed twice since his powers are back. But this is what I want to believe.

    I want to believe that the Ginjou with Ichigo was really him and this new Ginjou is a memory in which Tsuki implanted that he was attacked twice, since we can't prove that two slashes will return a person to normal just cause of one instance. I also think that Ginjou's allies are under the influence of Tsuki's blade atm, I feel they are being manipulated and using others as an excuse to say "yea they were cured of their fullbring" in this instance it would be the allies Chad and Orihime that would have "lost" their powers thanks to ichigo's training lol. Riruka's personality just doesn't seem like she would be the type of person to watch this go by if she knew what was going on. Perhaps she was more conerned that when the ordeal was over she'd never be able to see Ichigo again since there would be no excuse to actually see Ichigo if she lost her powers.

    I wanna say that Tsuki sliced Ginjou this first time and his memories are of a timeline in which he was slashed twice and has been absorbing shinigami's reiatsu in an attempt to make a key for Tsukishima so that he can take control of the Soul King. I say this cause I really don't see any other motive of obtaining these powers let alone Ichigo's Reiatsu unless his reiatsu is potent enough to create the key. Who knows maybe the reason Aizen had sucha smirk is because he created Tsuki's powers. In a sense it's nearly the same as Aizen's except a tad more powerful since one can actually believe they are friends and it's not some sort of illusion but a reality. Though with that in mind I do believe that their is a way to cancel it out but wasn't it said that the soul king is a weak person so it is possible it would be easy to take control of him with his blade.

    Basically even though I know this is nothing but a hopeless theory but I am hoping that the main objective behind this is Tsuki using Ginjou's ability to obtain reiatsu to create the king's key. When Ginjou obtains the reiatsu Tsuki slashes him back to normal and disposes of the "shinigami/fullbring". When Ginjou awakens he see's his comrades back but orihime/chad gone in which he believes that they succeeded in turning back to normal. however in this instant Tsuki becomes their allies again until he finds the next target and turns himself into an enemy in order to create conflict in which Ginjou encourages said person to learn fullbring/ turn them back into shingamis.

    I know this theory might seem pretty crackpot and it most likely is but I wanna believe that Tsuki is the mastermind behind it all and everyone else is just being used. But ya, I"ll just leave this here sorry if it sounds confusing but I'm just in denial over how things have turned out lol. I mean if you think about Tsuki's powers he can do alot with them I doubt he's limited to just creating one dimension but it's prolly easier that way. I also think that if a person changes back it would be instant rather then taking it's time. I don't think Ginjou would've needed to "lie" to Ichigo if he had changed back in an instant, the second Ginjou was slashed he should've struck Ichigo there would've been no need to keep lying to him. It is possible that Tsuki can control the "Activation" time so when Ishida revealed Ginjou as the "villian" Tsuki activated it causing his memories to change and strike them down.

    I dunno I think I"ll just leave it at that, I just want to see next week already, I'm just hoping things aren't as straightforward as they appear atm.

  2. #32
    Registered User 下級員 / Kakyuuin / Jr. Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Country
    United States
    Age
    22
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    99
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Ginjou and Tsukishima : Good or bad guys?

    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post

    I want to believe that the Ginjou with Ichigo was really him and this new Ginjou is a memory in which Tsuki implanted that he was attacked twice, since we can't prove that two slashes will return a person to normal just cause of one instance. I also think that Ginjou's allies are under the influence of Tsuki's blade atm, I feel they are being manipulated and using others as an excuse to say "yea they were cured of their fullbring" in this instance it would be the allies Chad and Orihime that would have "lost" their powers thanks to ichigo's training lol. Riruka's personality just doesn't seem like she would be the type of person to watch this go by if she knew what was going on. Perhaps she was more conerned that when the ordeal was over she'd never be able to see Ichigo again since there would be no excuse to actually see Ichigo if she lost her powers.
    .
    The big problem I see with that, is why didn't he use his power to add himself like to make the other people far more hostile. I know that he's messing with Ichigo's mind by using chad and orhimie, but it would be so much worst if they really wanted him dead. Then they would be really fighting him and forcing him to possibly hurt them in return. Plus, he could make execution members much more dangerous, since they are basically only trying to hold them down for acting so strange about their good buddy.

    Also, ginjou had to be evil or what ever he is at some point to attack Uryuu. Tsuki attacking him would have just changed him into one of the friend zombies, and then he gets attacked about reveling ginjou secret to Ichigo, so obviously he's not being manipulated until after being sliced, though I'm sure there will be a reason Tsuki power doesn't work on him or something

New Reply
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts