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Hello everyone!!! With the exception of the Sig Contests and Seasonal Sig Contest, we will be changing the Art Contests here at MH. Our goal behind doing this is rather simple... to make the Art Contests the best that they can be! That includes the type of contests you want to see, the frequency of those contests, and prizes awarded to the winner.
*Once again, please note that the Sig Contests and Seasonal Sig Contest will be left unchanged*
The Seasonal Art Contests are sometimes hit or miss: we either have a terrific competition with lots of participation or we struggle to get enough participation so there can be a vote. One of the reasons behind this is probably due to the duration in which the contests last. Having the submission phase last 3 months is just too long. But at the same time, having it too short isn't possible because creating a piece to submit just isn't something that can be done in 20 minutes.
So with that in mind, starting in August, we will be switching to a monthly contest. The types of contest is still up for debate ( more on this in a minute ), but the structure is going to be more similar to the sig contests i.e every Season ( 3 months ), the winning submissions will face off in a Seasonal Contests and the grand winner will receive the art badge we have been giving out. If anyone has any other ideas for prizes, feel free to let us know.
Now for the tricky part.... what kind of contests do you guys want?Do you want some combination of the ones we currently have or something entirely new?
One new contest that might be sort of neat to do would be to have a coloring contest where everyone colors the same lineart. Does that sound like something that you all are interested in doing?
Thoughts, ideas, and / or suggestions will be very much appreciated.
Last edited by Tsukisama; July 11, 2011 at 10:18 PM.
Just to piggyback on this, here are a few more things to consider:
- What do you think about the amateur and advanced division for the coloring contest? We currently don't define what constitutes "amateur" or "advanced." Should we do away with this division or should we better define this delineation, and if so, how?
- What do you think about the division we currently have for original art between black & white art and colored art? Do you think this matters?
- We are going to continue the creative writing contest, but do you think that we should break it up into more specific categories, and if so, how?
It would really help if you would respond to the questions posed in Vinty's and my posts. If you have an idea for a new contest, please be sure to detail it fully.
To be clear, we are going to have monthly contests adding to the current contests, but we are also interested in ideas for contests that might not be on a monthly basis and have a seasonal component. So, if you have ideas that are totally out-of-the-box and different than our usual setup, don't feel afraid to bring those up too!
Last edited by Tsukisama; July 12, 2011 at 04:49 PM.
Advanced category were for people who already felt competent with their colouring tools, established a particular style they felt satisfied with and perhaps had already a decent collection of coloured manga panels and/or experience in colouring techniques.
The categories were to encourage people of different levels to participate and not feel so intimidated to submitting a work, that may not come across as "polished" as other entries.
Thanks for the input!
It is pretty hard to tell someone whether or not they are a good enough artist because it would be completely subjective (or at least I can't think of an objective method of going about doing it). So, with that in mind, do you think there is a benefit to separating "amateurs" and "advanced artists?"
There are conflicting opinions on the benefits of this division among the staff. I personally don't see this as a necessary distinction, because
but this is just my opinion and we want to hear from all of you.
- I can't think of a way to define this distinction, which leaves it up to users to decide on their own and ultimately weakening the purpose of the division,
- the division implies that the artists in one category are inherently more talented than another, which I don't think is necessarily true and can have a negative effect on an artist's self-esteem having to judge himself or herself as "worthy enough" to be considered advanced, and
- I think beginners competing with more skilled peers can help them to develop their skills,
Yes, that is what I meant by categories.Quote:
Thanks for the input. I was unsure of what to do about the creative writing contest. Creative writing is such a broad category that I was not sure if it was too broad to attract writers to want to enter. Given how new the contest is though, it could just need more time and advertising to gain popularity.
Last edited by Tsukisama; July 12, 2011 at 05:07 PM.
Thank you for explaining, Walking_Dreamer and Tsukisama!
What if you decide on "amateurs" and "advanced" based on the effects used on the graphics? For this idea, though, you would need someone or a group of people who have to check through the submissions and put each one of them to appropriate category.
Or maybe we can make a separate creative writing contest? So it stands alone and would have sub-categories like short stories, fanfic, poems, etc. Do you think it would attract participants easier like that?
Guys, please, make just one Coloring contest!
The winner will be the one who do the most "interesting" image, it doesn't mean that the "most professional" will win.
And I think that all contestants must color the same image.
If there is Amateur Coloring, and Pro Coloring, then you need to do "Amateur Black & White" and "Pro Black & White", the same for "Amateur Colored Art" and "Pro Colored Art".
Because, the amateurs can't compete against the professionals in these contests too...
This is my point of view.
Thanks so much! Please keep the opinions coming, everyone!
I really like your idea for advertisement. I'll see what options we have for doing that.Quote:
As for the matter of a separate creative writing contest, do you mean like just removing it from the seasonal contests or creating a separate forum for it like the Sig Contest? I had not really considered creating a separate format for the creative writing contest, but that is a definite possibility and might be a little more conspicuous. I suppose I just don't want a forum created for something that is not showing any signs of being popular enough to merit it getting its own forum.
For now, I think we will try to better advertise the creative writing contest and, if there seems to be enough interest in it, we can look into giving it its own space.
I can understand you feelings about "amateur" and "advanced" not being in the other categories too. To be honest, I am not entirely certain why this division only exists in coloring (since I was not involved in these art contests when that division was put into place), but my guess would be that there is a definite technique in coloring whereas creating original art is entirely free form and thus the concept of being an "advanced original artist" is truly meaningless. So, that is why I cannot see there being an "Amateur Colored Art" contest or the like.
Concerning your third line about all contestants coloring the same image, that is one of the contests we were thinking of doing. Everyone would color a preselected piece of line art. This new contest, however, was something we were thinking of doing in conjunction with the other, establish coloring contests where people can select their own things to color. Do you think we should only do the contest where the image to be colored is preselected instead of doing that contest in addition to the established coloring contest?
What if we were to do the same-image coloring contest along with one coloring contest where people can choose to color whatever they want, getting rid of the amateur/advanced division?
This is also what I was thinking for the creative writing contest. For a certain period, there would be two kinds of creative writing contest: first, is where participants are free to write any kind of writing they want; second, is where participants must make a specific kind of writing (for example, poem, short story, fanfic, etc.). If it is too much for one period, we can do it one after another. We can also add themes to the writing, although it may cause drop in participation rate. Let me give you an example.
Suppose we would do the creative writing contest once every two months.
The first two months >> free creative writing
The next two months >> writing a fanfic based on certain series
The next two months >> creative writing with theme: death (could be related or unrelated to any anime/manga series)
The next two months >> writing a poem based on anime soundtracks
The next two months >> free creative writing
and so on.
So, I'll vote for two contests, one where everybody uses the same picture, and another where it's free (but without the amateur and advanced categories).
It's very hard to make a division of what is Advanced and what is amateur, a good example is this one, who participated in the amateur:
Ah, I almost forgot, I think that in the regular coloring contest, you need to upload the black & White image too, this way you can you tell that the original image really was black & white. Something like that:
I used one of my entries in the last summer contest
^^The notion of doing a contest in which everyone colored the same lineart stemmed from the Seasonal Contests. It was just something special that we were thinking about doing like the "creativity" contest we had for the Winter (?) contests. Just something different that people might enjoy. I still like the fundamental concept of doing it since it does put everyone in the same playing field i.e. it is less about the content of the image and more about a persons coloring skills. However, I can definitely understand the notion that people might get bored with it if the image provided doesn't peak their interest.
As for the difference between Amateur and Advanced, I would put it much like waking_dreamer said here:
waking_dreamer, who has won past contests, he would then be "forced" into the Advanced Category. But then again, at what point and by who would that be decided? It's definitely a dilemma. *shrug*
On another note... what are your thoughts in having an "Original" category? A category for all those that want to draw, paint, or color original pieces?
I can also throw in some colored stick figures, if I decided to take part.....
Just to clarify something, we currently do have two contests for original art: black & white art and colored art. So, for those of you who want to enter original art, you should use one of those contests, but I think what Vinty was asking was whether you all thought that original art should be just one big category or remain divided by color?
- Month 1: Free creative writing
- Month 2: Theme-based creative writing
- Month 3: A specific format of writing like haiku, a type of short story, or poem based on anime
Then, the winner of each of these monthly contests would compete in the seasonal contest like the other categories.
It clearly would be much simpler to just get rid of this division though and majority of the opinions expressed in the thread so far have been in favor of doing just that, but if this revamp discussion yields sufficient support for keeping the division, it will remain.
I think it would definitely be a good idea to require that the line art be included or referenced in the submission post.