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    The lost substitute shinigami & the Quincy

    Hey guys,

    I just reread part of the old chapters, and I noticed something that might be of some importance in the current arc.

    As you might remember, the current arc is called "Lost substitute shinigami arc".
    http://www.mangareader.net/94-58301-...apter-424.html

    Which, of course, implies that there was another substitue shinigami beside Ichigo.
    So far, the story would suggest that at least Ginjou was one at some point, since he's also in the possession of a badge.
    http://www.mangareader.net/94-58301-...apter-424.html

    I was trying to guess where the story would go from there, but I couldn't figure it out, until I saw something from an old chapter.

    I believed that the Quincy will be of high importance in this arc.

    And we might even learn of their extermination.

    I'm basing this one the following:

    1. It seems like the badge might have a meaning to the Quincy.
    Ishida reacted weirdly when he first saw it:
    http://www.mangareader.net/94-636-14...apter-182.html

    2. Ishida wasn't deal the same way that the other by Kubo.
    He either was cut down (without wanting to change his memories), or he cannot be affected by Tsukishima's memory changing power and is, therefore, cut down by the sword instead.
    Either way, Ishida looks like he's the only friend Ichigo has that haven't been affected by Tsukihima's power.

    3. The white glow around the sword-like thing that Isshin's holding.
    It looks a lot like a Quincy-like tool. It might be related somehow, but that might be stretching right now.


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    Re: The lost substitute shinigami & the Quincy

    Looks more like Tsukishima needs to cut someone out to put himself IN to people's memories. He probably tried killing Ishida so that he could take his place without Ishida causing problems in current life.

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    Re: The lost substitute shinigami & the Quincy

    i always wondered why ishida was suspicious of the badge. people can say oh why would kubo wait so long to bring up a plot point like that again. but you guys are forgetting this is the guy that not only drew shinji on the color page of chapter one of bleach, but hinted way early what shinji's zanpaktou sakanade ability would be. like way early on when he was first introduced when he was both standing upside down and writing his name backwards on the board in ichigo's class.
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    Re: The lost substitute shinigami & the Quincy

    In my opinion everything points to Isshin being the Lost Shinigami
    they should have recognized Ichigo's family name "Kurosaki" but they didn't. I think he's using and alias because he's the lost Shinigami not Ginjou

    If he was human and powerless for 20 years then he would be hard to find. In essence he was "lost"

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    I think that he used FGT lost his powers and somehow he lost the badge and maybe they found it or took it and when they used it, they were able to use Isshin's techniques and that is the reason why they wanted Ichigo's badge. Afterwards he was left without powers and he changed his name to Kurosaki and became a doctor and had little Kurosaki rug -rats
    Last edited by BleachOD; August 10, 2011 at 04:34 AM.

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    Re: The lost substitute shinigami & the Quincy

    I kind of think that it might be referring to Ichigo as the "lost subsitute shinigami" as in lost his powers, not lost as a missing shinigami. It kind feels like the other badge was used to trick us into thinking that there is another lost shinigami but since Ginjou seemed to be able to use fullbring on it I"d take a guess that perhaps there is no lost shinigami and the naming of the whole arc is based on Ichigo being lost because he lacks the power to protect, rather then a mysterious shinigami that use to own the badge.

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    Re: The lost substitute shinigami & the Quincy

    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    I kind of think that it might be referring to Ichigo as the "lost subsitute shinigami" as in lost his powers, not lost as a missing shinigami. It kind feels like the other badge was used to trick us into thinking that there is another lost shinigami but since Ginjou seemed to be able to use fullbring on it I"d take a guess that perhaps there is no lost shinigami and the naming of the whole arc is based on Ichigo being lost because he lacks the power to protect, rather then a mysterious shinigami that use to own the badge.
    That's quite possible but I doubt it. Ichigo isn't lost, only his powers. The Lost Shinigami implies that there is a "missing person" not missing powers. Ginjou knew about Ichigo and he mentioned Isshin when he first met Ichigo. So he has to something about Isshin and it's clear that Isshin knows something about the Fulbringers. Kubo said that Isshin's arc was next, this is it...

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