Bleach 457 Discussion

[prcek91]

Amazing, amazing, amazing! Kubo is truly great! Getsuga and "STOP HIDING BEHIND MY FRIENDS!!!" were the best parts of this chapter!

[Nieuwsgierig]

Lol all true, but still the development is slow. And fullbringers are most likely not that popular in japan > or else how do you explain the low ranking.
Like the other 2 above proclaim Bleach is the best of the best c'mon no great manga stands 7th place from the red lantern. IF Kubo keeps THIS up his editor + the chief are gonna slap him for his position on the rankings lol.l.

Yeah, it is better to have things like Dragon Ball where the editors ruin the manga by ignoring the wishes of the mangaka and forcing him to prolong his manga multiple times. A high ranking just means your editors want you to do anything to attract more readers instead of focusing on quality.

[Ero-Sanji]

Damn, Ichigo is going to have a pretty soar throat when this is over, he has done nothing but yell at Tsukishima...
The Jackpot Knuckle is interesting and quite unique. I guess ginjo's cross of scaffold and Ichigo's are the ones without an ability, Ginjo will probably show his anytime soon.

[Revolation]

The editors decide the order of the published manga by their popularity, and Bleach has slipped to the bottom 7, meaning kids don't vote for it anymore, for justified reasons imo.

So Kubo fell into his old rut again, advancing the plot as slow as possible. Ichigo has nowhere to run to, but Urahara, whom he doesn't seem to trust too.-_- I would like for Ishida to explain a bit about the fullbring in the next chapter, as they are based on earth, they could have originated from them in the past, which would explain why SS tried to annihilate them in the past for their connection to Hollows.

NAM61
Kids might have lost their nerve too, with Ichigo running around, getting an awesome power, using it and still losing, running away again... Why is this idiot not able to ask the simple question: "Why are you doing all this to me? Why do you torture me like this? Why!?" Over a year has gone past, Ichigo has won against a near allmighty being, and hasn't learned to talk, how much of a failure can he be? Where has the orange haired punk from the beginning gone to? The one solving problems with ghosts and humans all the time.

Well, it was said that quincies were the offshoot of "magic hunters" in chap 36, so there could be tons of different abilities humans could have even besides fullbring IMO.

Meanwhile it's become official that shishi is going to have to get beat by ikkaku for stealing his luck theme if you get my reference

[The Newbie.]

Hoo boy, Shishigawara has a JJBA-tier ability, Ginjo is fucked. Bring in Jotaro.

[Revolation]

Also people need to stop putting the chapter down based off of spoilers. chapters are always better than spoilers.....wait did tsuki just say "lets finish this up? yay only 2-4 more chaps in kubo time. j/k i expect ishida to interupt next chap

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Ginjou has the hitsu-icefail-face when he gets stabbed. just look at hitsu's face when he bifurcated by harribel. sorry i just had to laugh

Also is it just me thinking that the fullbring abilities are alot like troll science comics? i like their abilities though

[RaveDragon]

Okay explanation of Fullbring in first few chapters i can get through that, and it was kind of sad as in it reminded me of te old times when ichigo was a shinigami when he used getsuga.

It is slow and annoying but i think Tsukishima wants something from ichigo when he turns back to a shinigami and i get he wanted to climatically introduce Uryu so i will be patient its taking long yes but he's building uo to something good hopefully

[ca12nag3]

Hmm this is kinda along the line of obvious, nothing new here. Ginjo saves Ichigo by getting stabbed. Result is he will be Tsukishimas buddy now. Last page we saw Ishida so i guess at the end of next chapter we see him comming in. Still waiting on Urahara, Isshin and the mystery guest. I wonder what his objective is, what does Tsukishima gain from all this.
Everyone is like omg Tsukishima mindfucks etc and hes a coward etc and god knows what more but that does not explain why. Does he have a grudge against shinigamis or against the kurosakis? Or is it some powertrip and he wants Ichigos powers? Or what? Also the Ginjo + gang giving up their powers by letting Ichigo absorb them where did that plotline go? Out the window? I find it really hard to believe a guy like Ginjo fighting with Ichigo against Tsukishima yet he doesnt want his powers. It just doesnt connect.

[luffyg2]

Tsukishima said that Ichigo already fused his Shinigami power and his fullbring .. I don't remember that... and if he did then it's quite lame ..it does not really look like a power that transcend Shinigami....Well let's hope Ichida will even the odds a little bit cause now its Ichigo Vs the world

[Revolation]

Okay explanation of Fullbring in first few chapters i can get through that, and it was kind of sad as in it reminded me of te old times when ichigo was a shinigami when he used getsuga.

It is slow and annoying but i think Tsukishima wants something from ichigo when he turns back to a shinigami and i get he wanted to climatically introduce Uryu so i will be patient its taking long yes but he's building uo to something good hopefully

I agree, though personally, I wanted to see a unique fullbring ability from ichi that merged with his shinigami powers once he gets them back, but he is using what looks like shikai getsuga, though it's not shikai getsuga seeing as he has fullbring. I wonder if he uses fullbring while in spirit form, what happens? same transformation?
also he has yet to name his fullbring.

[lordoffantasy]

Lol all true, but still the development is slow. And fullbringers are most likely not that popular in japan > or else how do you explain the low ranking.
Like the other 2 above proclaim Bleach is the best of the best c'mon no great manga stands 7th place from the red lantern. IF Kubo keeps THIS up his editor + the chief are gonna slap him for his position on the rankings lol.

I realy love reading Bleach its my fav manga, however i do see reality and in reality Bleach isnt doing that well. However knowing Kubo is a great artist im sure he will recover.

The chapter might not bring to much except Ginjo being stabbed, the thing is that every chapter only has 1 WOW moment and the rest is pointless chat about shoving hotdogs or donuts down your throat... And now and then we get a foot,hand,belt or sword from Isshin&co so that covers everything in each chapter.
Not what i call superb tbh. But ill keep reading and loving Bleach, i just know its shortcommings as well.

dude, it is seventh out of dozens of shonen comics released right now. that is pretty damn good, worthy of continuation. i think the other shonens might be getting more readers is mostly because so many other manga are reaching their climaxes. naruto is heading to its finale, and so is negima, though perhaps not as soon, still, bleach is doing pretty well at seventh.
the current part is made to get us all tied up in knots. will ishida be friend or foe? what is ichigo's dad up to? how will orihime and chad react to what tsuki just did? and when are giong to see rukia again!!!!

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I agree, though personally, I wanted to see a unique fullbring ability from ichi that merged with his shinigami powers once he gets them back, but he is using what looks like shikai getsuga, though it's not shikai getsuga seeing as he has fullbring. I wonder if he uses fullbring while in spirit form, what happens? same transformation?
also he has yet to name his fullbring.

actaully i think this fullbring is extremely temporary. this is all jsut a physical imitation of ichigo original powers.
i want to know what is the force behind tsuki. he knows tooooooooooooooooo dman much about ichigo. family and friends a simple spy can detect. but how oculd he know his shinigami powers as well? though he is probably wrong about the man having the same level as he did before. from what i see, i think he is no stronger than when he first started out.

[RaveDragon]

I agree, though personally, I wanted to see a unique fullbring ability from ichi that merged with his shinigami powers once he gets them back, but he is using what looks like shikai getsuga, though it's not shikai getsuga seeing as he has fullbring. I wonder if he uses fullbring while in spirit form, what happens? same transformation?
also he has yet to name his fullbring.

Maybe he has some bankai mode? i mean oay we all know ichigo = shinigami but he could have like some cool new mode now xD Ginjou joins the baddies oh goodness yeah you're right thank heavens Uryu comes in cuz ichigo would lose it alone, but wait Uryu was stabbed too =S oh boy...unless he'll fake being an enemy and then badabing climatic intelligent save ><

Yeah he gotta reveal that name soon xD i hope its good and not some wierd name like the skull armor or whatnot

[Xqtr.]

I don't feel like re-reading the old chapters again now, but could it be that Ishida has been around with Isshin & Urahara to set up some kind of counter against Tsukishima's Fullbring?
It would explain his showcase at the end of this chapter... ;o

[NAM61]

ichigos GT changed to white nice maybe when he gets his shinigami powers back his bankai outfit will be white as well. the opposite as before. i think ishida will probably catch ginjou from falling. and ichigo will get angry next chapter and maybe his hollow will come back. also why are people disappointed that he still has GT it is his signature more he will always have it.

[Ero-Sanji]

Yeah he gotta reveal that name soon xD i hope its good and not some wierd name like the skull armor or whatnot

When it comes to being good and cool names and abilities, Kubo is the man. So far so good the names of the current known fullbrings are pretty nice imo, well except dollhouse... Personally my favourites are "invaders must die" and the new one "Jackpot knuckle".

Ishida is coming any time soon but will he be enough to deal with all of Xcution + Chad and Inoue. I mean sever a limb on someone and Inoue will be there to heal that person and try to harm or deal with inoue I'm sure Sado will serve as a tank. Also, as someone mentioned what's up with the initial plot line about the potential removal of their powers, why would they all agree to that.

Furthermore, even if Tsuki has inserted himself in their lives their motives for removing their powers shouldn't be gone and thus Ichigo is supposed to be protected more than anyone else. I find it odd that Sado and Inoue are protecting Tsuki but not Ichigo, it's not like Ichigo has been replaced or anything. This arc is really confusing.