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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

    Minato is a legend in Konoha for his base speed. He grabbed Kushina away from Madara in a flash without using Hiraishin. His base speed is incredible. He can mark the ground, trees, and Nagato's body with seal which he can't blow away with a regular Shinra Tensei. There is also a 6 second cool down between his STs so in that time he can throw down with the Kunai's and seals and take Nagato out with a kunai to the neck (he did it to an entire Iwa squad in about a second) if his Rasengan doesn't work, which it should because Fat Path only absorbed techs from the front and with his mouth at that IIRC.

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    Minato can't Hiraishin away from a ST: he would still hit the ground from the force of ST, and with no tags near Nagato, he wouldn't be able to reach him in time.
    ST has a limited range and Nagato only extends it incase of emergencies. He is fully capable of Hiraishining away. If he can't for some stupid reason, it is possible that he can absorb the force of ST with his S/T Barrier. And as I said before, once he sees ST knock his kunai away he'll mark the surroundings with his seals so they can't be blown away. 6 seconds is a LONG time when you can move instantly.

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    Also, Nagato in this tournament isn't the skinny one: it's the one that fought Hanzo, so he's probably fast enough to get away from Minato before he touches him.
    Even in that form he didn't show any impressive speed feats.

    As for Nagato's summons, Minato has Gama and Cart Destroyer (and most likely the one with the big lance) and they are very talented fighters. Gama also has some very impressive jutsu. And Minato even knows an insta-seal which removes a person's ability to utilize summons.
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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

    Even if Minato uses Hiraishin after he is hit by a ST he would still hit the ground.

    And if Minato marks the ground with his seals, Nagato can just summon his bird and be out of range from all Minato's attacks.
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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

    Minato has to get that seal on Nagato to use it. Nagato can summon instantly. Once he does he has the advantage.

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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

    If Nagato wants to win he still has to face and fight Minato. He's going to be more than open to get creamed by Minato.

    It's one thing to support Nagato and another thing entirely to endow him with feats he hasn't shown in the manga. He is not faster than Minato so don't use speed as a tactic against Minato 'cause it's just not gonna happen. All Nagato really has is his jutsu. Minto's gonna figure out counters for those jutsu. He's a genius. He figured out Madara in practically nothing. Kakashi figured out Shinra Tensei. They're not techniques beyond the imagination of an intelligent shinobi.

    So what if he's got the bird? What's he gonna do from long range against Minato anyway? Wave goodbye?

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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by DementedKirby View Post
    It's one thing to support Nagato and another thing entirely to endow him with feats he hasn't shown in the manga. He is not faster than Minato so don't use speed as a tactic against Minato 'cause it's just not gonna happen. All Nagato really has is his jutsu. Minto's gonna figure out counters for those jutsu. He's a genius. He figured out Madara in practically nothing. Kakashi figured out Shinra Tensei. They're not techniques beyond the imagination of an intelligent shinobi.

    So what if he's got the bird? What's he gonna do from long range against Minato anyway? Wave goodbye?
    Summon a dog, use CT or super shinra tensei.

    Heck, Summon rain and wait until Minato dies of Hypothermia.
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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

    Once again, Minato can teleport away. In fact, I can even use a hardheaded argument and say that Minato can teleport away to his house, plan a strategy, get more kunai, do whatever, and then warp back. Also, Minato is fast enough to warp away a bijuu bomb. And he can summon a dog and Minato can still summon the toads to handle them.
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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

    Nagato can summon several boss summons: the dog (which splits into 5 dogs or more), a bird, a chamelon, a centipede, a crab, a ox, a rhino and Gedo Mazo.

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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

    Minato can't leave the battlefield.

    And how can he warp away from CT? Nagato can the see the seals thanks to Rin'negan: CT would engulf them all and crush Minato.

    And he can't teleport away from sst: he would still get hit by the full force of the blast.
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    LMFAO

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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by ki0 View Post
    Nagato can summon several boss summons: the dog (which splits into 5 dogs or more), a bird, a chamelon, a centipede, a crab, a ox, a rhino and Gedo Mazo.
    I don't consider any of his animals as "boss" because they have neither personality nor intellect. They don't talk and are too primal. The frogs can use jutsu. 'Nough said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DementedKirby View Post
    I don't consider any of his animals as "boss" because they have neither personality nor intellect. They don't talk and are too primal. The frogs can use jutsu. 'Nough said.
    still, the dog summon > Gamabunta, Gamaken and Gamahiro.
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    I fount it interesting that had Kushina not gotten knocked up, None of them would be in the current situation. She's more responsible for the Uchiha massacre then Danzo and co. Crap, Now Sasuke has a valid reason to use his hatred against Naruto.
    LMFAO

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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

    Every time we have seen Minato in combat, he has placed a Hiraishin seal on an opponent. If he is able to tag Nagato, he will easily be able to find the safest place from CT, Nagato himself.

    CT is also dangerous for Nagato but he would not know it. If CT sucks up any Hiraishin seals that were placed, or Kunai, Minato could theoretically send Nagato into the core of CT using the same jutsu used to redirect Kyuubi's Bijuu blast.

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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by DementedKirby View Post
    I don't have a pentablet, but I drew this up a little quickly in Paint to get my point across as to what you said in bold. Feel free to destroy it as you see fit. Oh, and it's not drawn mangastyle (right to left) but standstyle (left to right):
    No offense, but I could hardly tell what was going on in that picture. From what I could manage, you're saying that after the kunai get blown away by Shinra Tensei and after Minato goes rushing at Nagato with a Rasengan simply to get it absorbed, he'll throw a kunai while running with a Rasengan and teleport in once Nagato uses Shinra Tensei on the kunai, right?

    If that's it, then that won't work. First, you're presuming that Nagato will do nothing but stand there while Minato attacks, instead of going on the offensive with his summoning and Bansho Tennin. By using his summons, Nagato can keep Minato busy and by using Bansho Tennin, he can move Minato into a more favorable position. Secondly, when Nagato uses Shinra Tensei, not only will the kunai be blown back, but Minato too. Even if he warps while in the Shinra Tensei, he'll still have that momentum when he reappears elsewhere. Third, while Nagato could use his chakra absorption to take that Rasengan the first time, odds are he would employ Shinra Tensei instead. Anyway, in order to counter that, all Nagato would have to do is use Shinra Tensei while he keeps his chakra absorption active.

    Quote Originally Posted by White Silver King View Post
    I don't see Nagato putting up much of a fight. He Shinra Tensei's (it seems to be his preliminary move), Minato Hiraishin's away. Hiraishin's at Nagato and Rasengan's him but sees his Rasengan is absorbed (which we've never seen is possible from the back only from the front so his Rasengan might not get absorbed). He Hiraishin's away again to strategize, but not before marking Nagato's body with a S/T seal, and gets Shinra Tenseid again. This time he has a mark on Nagato so he can just teleport inside Shinra. In those five seconds he just beats the crap out of Nagato til he's dead (5 seconds is an eternity when you move instantly). Nagato isn't fast enough (especially in his emaciated body) to suck out Minato's soul, summon Gedo, or summon an Animal.
    How will Minato Hiraishin to Nagato with no kunai near? Minato would be limited to his base speed, which while fast isn't instantaneous like Hiraishin. With no kunai or seals near him, Nagato can keep Minato away with his Shinra Tensei without worrying about Minato reappearing behind him. Minato has no way to get a tag or kunai near Nagato until he figures out his ability and by that time Nagato would have overwhelmed him with his summoning and powers.

    Quote Originally Posted by DementedKirby View Post
    Nagato doesn't have more summons. Minato has a whole mountain of badass toads to summon. Besides, it's not about quantity but quality, anyways.
    Nagato does have more usable summons. The dog alone was able to keep all three giant toads busy. With the rest of the summons in play, they would be overwhelmed. And since Minato would still be in the same situation with not being able to land a hit on Nagato, the toads would be killed and they will move on to Minato himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdw View Post
    Every time we have seen Minato in combat, he has placed a Hiraishin seal on an opponent. If he is able to tag Nagato, he will easily be able to find the safest place from CT, Nagato himself.

    CT is also dangerous for Nagato but he would not know it. If CT sucks up any Hiraishin seals that were placed, or Kunai, Minato could theoretically send Nagato into the core of CT using the same jutsu used to redirect Kyuubi's Bijuu blast.
    True, but Minato never faced an oponent that could blast him away, or that could fly away from all his attacks.

    If Minato manages to tag Nagato, Nagato's dead, but considering Nagato's abilities, I doubt he could.

    On the other hand, Minato would be owned by either super shinra tensei or chibaku tensei.
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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

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    Even if Minato uses Hiraishin after he is hit by a ST he would still hit the ground.

    And if Minato marks the ground with his seals, Nagato can just summon his bird and be out of range from all Minato's attacks.
    Why would he Hiraishin away after he got hit? That defeats the purpose of dodging an attack. You do know that his reflexes are equal to or superior to A's in his Raiton Armor right? He's full capable of Hiraishining away before he gets hit especially since Nagato has a signature stance for ST.

    The summons argument, especially on that small a scale, has already been shown to fail. He can either have Gama and Cart Destroyer take the bird, or seal Nagato's ability to summon animals altogether during cool down.

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    Minato has to get that seal on Nagato to use it. Nagato can summon instantly. Once he does he has the advantage.
    Minato has been shown, like everyone else, to be able to summon nearly instantly as well. Especially with the Food Cart Destroyer jutsu.

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    Nagato can summon several boss summons: the dog (which splits into 5 dogs or more), a bird, a chamelon, a centipede, a crab, a ox, a rhino and Gedo Mazo.
    Once again:

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    As for Nagato's summons, Minato has Gama and Cart Destroyer (and most likely the one with the big lance) and they are very talented fighters. Gama also has some very impressive jutsu. And Minato even knows an insta-seal which removes a person's ability to utilize summons.
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    How will Minato Hiraishin to Nagato with no kunai near? Minato would be limited to his base speed, which while fast isn't instantaneous like Hiraishin. With no kunai or seals near him, Nagato can keep Minato away with his Shinra Tensei without worrying about Minato reappearing behind him. Minato has no way to get a tag or kunai near Nagato until he figures out his ability and by that time Nagato would have overwhelmed him with his summoning and powers.
    His base speed is fast enough to reach Nagato and place a seal on him for reason I've already said. And in the 6 second cool down Minato could just throw another Kunai at him and teleport to it.

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    True, but Minato never faced an oponent that could blast him away, or that could fly away from all his attacks.
    The fox was more than capable of blasting him away (and into smithereens for that matter), took care of that problem with his S/T Barrier. And flying doesn't matter, he could just throw at kunai into the sky.
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    Re: Nagato vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by hakuthehedgehog View Post
    still, the dog summon > Gamabunta, Gamaken and Gamahiro.
    Minato has the ability to break contract seals.

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