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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
Minato is a legend in Konoha for his base speed. He grabbed Kushina away from Madara in a flash without using Hiraishin. His base speed is incredible. He can mark the ground, trees, and Nagato's body with seal which he can't blow away with a regular Shinra Tensei. There is also a 6 second cool down between his STs so in that time he can throw down with the Kunai's and seals and take Nagato out with a kunai to the neck (he did it to an entire Iwa squad in about a second) if his Rasengan doesn't work, which it should because Fat Path only absorbed techs from the front and with his mouth at that IIRC.
ST has a limited range and Nagato only extends it incase of emergencies. He is fully capable of Hiraishining away. If he can't for some stupid reason, it is possible that he can absorb the force of ST with his S/T Barrier. And as I said before, once he sees ST knock his kunai away he'll mark the surroundings with his seals so they can't be blown away. 6 seconds is a LONG time when you can move instantly.Quote:
Even in that form he didn't show any impressive speed feats.Quote:
As for Nagato's summons, Minato has Gama and Cart Destroyer (and most likely the one with the big lance) and they are very talented fighters. Gama also has some very impressive jutsu. And Minato even knows an insta-seal which removes a person's ability to utilize summons.
Last edited by White Silver King; July 17, 2011 at 04:42 PM.
Even if Minato uses Hiraishin after he is hit by a ST he would still hit the ground.
And if Minato marks the ground with his seals, Nagato can just summon his bird and be out of range from all Minato's attacks.
Minato has to get that seal on Nagato to use it. Nagato can summon instantly. Once he does he has the advantage.
If Nagato wants to win he still has to face and fight Minato. He's going to be more than open to get creamed by Minato.
It's one thing to support Nagato and another thing entirely to endow him with feats he hasn't shown in the manga. He is not faster than Minato so don't use speed as a tactic against Minato 'cause it's just not gonna happen. All Nagato really has is his jutsu. Minto's gonna figure out counters for those jutsu. He's a genius. He figured out Madara in practically nothing. Kakashi figured out Shinra Tensei. They're not techniques beyond the imagination of an intelligent shinobi.
So what if he's got the bird? What's he gonna do from long range against Minato anyway? Wave goodbye?
Once again, Minato can teleport away. In fact, I can even use a hardheaded argument and say that Minato can teleport away to his house, plan a strategy, get more kunai, do whatever, and then warp back. Also, Minato is fast enough to warp away a bijuu bomb. And he can summon a dog and Minato can still summon the toads to handle them.
Last edited by DementedKirby; July 17, 2011 at 04:57 PM.
Nagato can summon several boss summons: the dog (which splits into 5 dogs or more), a bird, a chamelon, a centipede, a crab, a ox, a rhino and Gedo Mazo.
Minato can't leave the battlefield.
And how can he warp away from CT? Nagato can the see the seals thanks to Rin'negan: CT would engulf them all and crush Minato.
And he can't teleport away from sst: he would still get hit by the full force of the blast.
Every time we have seen Minato in combat, he has placed a Hiraishin seal on an opponent. If he is able to tag Nagato, he will easily be able to find the safest place from CT, Nagato himself.
CT is also dangerous for Nagato but he would not know it. If CT sucks up any Hiraishin seals that were placed, or Kunai, Minato could theoretically send Nagato into the core of CT using the same jutsu used to redirect Kyuubi's Bijuu blast.
If that's it, then that won't work. First, you're presuming that Nagato will do nothing but stand there while Minato attacks, instead of going on the offensive with his summoning and Bansho Tennin. By using his summons, Nagato can keep Minato busy and by using Bansho Tennin, he can move Minato into a more favorable position. Secondly, when Nagato uses Shinra Tensei, not only will the kunai be blown back, but Minato too. Even if he warps while in the Shinra Tensei, he'll still have that momentum when he reappears elsewhere. Third, while Nagato could use his chakra absorption to take that Rasengan the first time, odds are he would employ Shinra Tensei instead. Anyway, in order to counter that, all Nagato would have to do is use Shinra Tensei while he keeps his chakra absorption active.
If Minato manages to tag Nagato, Nagato's dead, but considering Nagato's abilities, I doubt he could.
On the other hand, Minato would be owned by either super shinra tensei or chibaku tensei.
Why would he Hiraishin away after he got hit? That defeats the purpose of dodging an attack. You do know that his reflexes are equal to or superior to A's in his Raiton Armor right? He's full capable of Hiraishining away before he gets hit especially since Nagato has a signature stance for ST.Quote:
The summons argument, especially on that small a scale, has already been shown to fail. He can either have Gama and Cart Destroyer take the bird, or seal Nagato's ability to summon animals altogether during cool down.
Minato has been shown, like everyone else, to be able to summon nearly instantly as well. Especially with the Food Cart Destroyer jutsu.Quote:
Quote:His base speed is fast enough to reach Nagato and place a seal on him for reason I've already said. And in the 6 second cool down Minato could just throw another Kunai at him and teleport to it.Quote:
The fox was more than capable of blasting him away (and into smithereens for that matter), took care of that problem with his S/T Barrier. And flying doesn't matter, he could just throw at kunai into the sky.Quote:
Last edited by White Silver King; July 17, 2011 at 05:14 PM.