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  • Naruto

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  • Jiraiya

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Thread: Naruto vs Jiraiya

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Quote Originally Posted by jdw View Post
    I could be wrong, but you just added four more links to the original translation your provided, not any new translations to support your original point. It is just now 5 links of the same thing. lol.

    As for the distance of the jutsu, I am not sure that you are right about that either.
    Not sure who you quoted but whoever it was, they made the best argument for Amaterasu to be a projectile and not a spawn based attack.

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Quote Originally Posted by Deepak5191 View Post
    Not sure who you quoted but whoever it was, they made the best argument for Amaterasu to be a projectile and not a spawn based attack.
    lol, I quoted myself, here is the post in context: Link

    Naruto War Tracker: 2 days of combat, 63 chapters, 40,000 alliance soldiers lost (50%). Significant alliance characters lost: 0

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Let's try getting back to the fight at hand.
    Thanks!

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    LOL Naruto takes this. Naruto surpassed him as soon as he learned SageMode.

    I can see Jiraiya and Naruto in SageMode and Jiraiya going crazy asking Naruto why he doesnt look like a frog like he does

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Naruto definitely wins this. If Naruto only had Sage Mode it would be pretty hard to choose but Naruto has still RM which is simply way to strong, like we already had chance to see in some of the previous chapters.

    I think it would have been better and also more fair if this fight was between Naruto and Sasuke
    It would be much more interesting debating it than this one, that clearly goes to Naruto side.
    Even though i am saying this i would still vote for Naruto if he fought against Sasuke.
    And i even have an excuse for that. Kishi already showed some pretty good stuff of Naruto and the same hasn't happened with Sasuke so ....


    Quote Originally Posted by Lelo View Post
    LOL Naruto takes this. Naruto surpassed him as soon as he learned SageMode.

    I can see Jiraiya and Naruto in SageMode and Jiraiya going crazy asking Naruto why he doesnt look like a frog like he does
    Even with both at Sage Mode Naruto still is more strong, though Jiraya could easily battle this with the experience that he has, which is simply way bigger than Naruto's.
    Last edited by jorped; July 25, 2011 at 01:11 PM.

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Jiraya would take this one but, sadly an idiot shit like naruto will win coz people will not take into count that

    1st Naruto only knows 3 damn ninjutsu:
    Kage Bunshin
    Rasengan
    Kuchiyose

    and has 2 transformations

    Hermit Mode
    Golden Flame on!!

    2nd Even if jiraya sage mode its not perfect he has dominated more tactics and jutsu than naruto, he is a master of his two elements, oil jusu and is a perfect frog summoner, nor to say he has some knowledge of seals like the one that was put by orochimaru. So he is a COMPLETE NINJA

    while naruto is just some idiot with random power, the finals should be with Jiraya and Itachi

    Thanks to the ones who read this comment, coz sadly most of fanboys wont read it, oh yeah and im judging accurately coz i dont even like jiraya, not one bit

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Quote Originally Posted by Josear XIII View Post
    Jiraya would take this one but, sadly an idiot shit like naruto will win coz people will not take into count that

    1st Naruto only knows 3 damn ninjutsu:
    Kage Bunshin
    Rasengan
    Kuchiyose

    and has 2 transformations

    Hermit Mode
    Golden Flame on!!

    2nd Even if jiraya sage mode its not perfect he has dominated more tactics and jutsu than naruto, he is a master of his two elements, oil jusu and is a perfect frog summoner, nor to say he has some knowledge of seals like the one that was put by orochimaru. So he is a COMPLETE NINJA

    while naruto is just some idiot with random power, the finals should be with Jiraya and Itachi

    Thanks to the ones who read this comment, coz sadly most of fanboys wont read it, oh yeah and im judging accurately coz i dont even like jiraya, not one bit
    Irrelevant. You don't even read what JMan himself state... Its not the number of jutsus that make a great shinobi...
    JMan get's decapitated in second 1 after this fights start. Do tell me how he is going to counter that.

    EDIT: Just to elaborate how Naruto decapitates him in 1 second.
    Minato is way faster then BASE JMan and Raikage would have decapitated Minato if not for his ST tech (2 times he got cm's away from Minato's face). Now Naruto is faster then Raikage so JMan is going to lose his head.
    Last edited by xXan; July 25, 2011 at 03:23 PM.

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Quote Originally Posted by Josear XIII View Post
    Jiraya would take this one but, sadly an idiot shit like naruto will win coz people will not take into count that

    1st Naruto only knows 3 damn ninjutsu:
    Kage Bunshin
    Rasengan
    Kuchiyose

    and has 2 transformations

    Hermit Mode
    Golden Flame on!!

    2nd Even if jiraya sage mode its not perfect he has dominated more tactics and jutsu than naruto, he is a master of his two elements, oil jusu and is a perfect frog summoner, nor to say he has some knowledge of seals like the one that was put by orochimaru. So he is a COMPLETE NINJA

    while naruto is just some idiot with random power, the finals should be with Jiraya and Itachi

    Thanks to the ones who read this comment, coz sadly most of fanboys wont read it, oh yeah and im judging accurately coz i dont even like jiraya, not one bit
    That "idiot shit" Naruto sure as hell owned Pain with those 3 ninjutsu and 1 transformation. And Naruto's more that proven he has the tactical capabilities to take on a beat Jiraiya.

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Quote Originally Posted by Josear XIII View Post
    Jiraya would take this one but, sadly an idiot shit like naruto will win coz people will not take into count that

    1st Naruto only knows 3 damn ninjutsu:
    Kage Bunshin
    Rasengan
    Kuchiyose

    and has 2 transformations

    Hermit Mode
    Golden Flame on!!

    2nd Even if jiraya sage mode its not perfect he has dominated more tactics and jutsu than naruto, he is a master of his two elements, oil jusu and is a perfect frog summoner, nor to say he has some knowledge of seals like the one that was put by orochimaru. So he is a COMPLETE NINJA

    while naruto is just some idiot with random power, the finals should be with Jiraya and Itachi

    Thanks to the ones who read this comment, coz sadly most of fanboys wont read it, oh yeah and im judging accurately coz i dont even like jiraya, not one bit
    In battle, Naruto is a strategic genius. I would not call him an idiot with power.

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Quote Originally Posted by Josear XIII View Post
    1st Naruto only knows 3 damn ninjutsu:
    Kage Bunshin
    Rasengan
    Kuchiyose


    Thanks to the ones who read this comment, coz sadly most of fanboys wont read it, oh yeah and im judging accurately coz i dont even like jiraya, not one bit
    Naruto also knows henge which is huge part of his arsenal that most people seems to overlook. Without even really trying, Naruto now already have 4 ninjutsus.

    I honestly don't see the point when people say oh I'm judging accurately/not bias because I vote for character A while I like character B so much more. You voted A because in your eyes, A seems more impressive combat wise. That's all there is tbh.

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaunlim View Post
    Naruto also knows henge which is huge part of his arsenal that most people seems to overlook. Without even really trying, Naruto now already have 4 ninjutsus.

    I honestly don't see the point when people say oh I'm judging accurately/not bias because I vote for character A while I like character B so much more. You voted A because in your eyes, A seems more impressive combat wise. That's all there is tbh.
    A hero shows up at the last second

    Add another jutsu

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Naruto a genius? No not really anywhere close to a strategic genius. Someone who never quits and pushes themselves beyond their supposed limits, yes. Definitely yes to that.
    Naruto's finale will be EPIC , Nvm Naruto series has a long way to go

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    A list of jutsu Naruto has used to date;

    Kage Bunshin

    - Kage Bunshin no Jutsu
    - Tajū Kage Bunshin no Jutsu
    - Kage Shuriken no Jutsu
    - Shihōhappō Shuriken
    - Bunshin Taiatari
    - Uzumaki Naruto Rendan
    - Uzumaki Naruto Nisen Rendan

    Rasengan

    - Rasengan
    - Ōdama Rasengan
    - Rasenkyūgan
    - Rasenrangan
    - Mini-Rasenshuriken
    - Fūton: Rasengan
    - Fūton: Rasenshuriken
    - Rasen Chō Tarengan
    - Bijū Rasengan

    Sage Mode

    - Sennin Mōdo
    - Kawazu Kumite
    - Senpō: Ōdama Rasengan
    - Senpō: Chōōdama Rasen Tarengan
    - Senpō: Chō Ōdama Rasengan
    - Senjutsu: Rasenrengan


    Other Jutsu

    - Hāremu no Jutsu
    - Kuchiyose no Jutsu
    - Torii Seal
    - Konbi Henge
    - Shunshin no Jutsu
    - Kawarimi no Jutsu
    - Henge no Jutsu
    - Sennen Goroshi
    - Fuuton
    - Kyuubi chakra shroud & limbs
    - Negative emotion sensing
    - Chakra sensing
    - Genjutsu defense

    Weapons

    - Shuriken
    - Fūma Shuriken
    - Kunai
    - Hidden Kunai Mechanism
    - Smoke bombs

    I think that pretty much covers everything in terms of Jutsu and weapons Naruto has used throughout the series. I broke it down into groups so we can clearly see that Naruto knows more than 4 jutsu.

    Also, anyone who tries to deny Naruto's strategic genius is delusional.
    Last edited by Naruto_Rasengan; July 25, 2011 at 11:19 PM.

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Quote Originally Posted by rell250 View Post
    Naruto a genius? No not really anywhere close to a strategic genius. Someone who never quits and pushes themselves beyond their supposed limits, yes. Definitely yes to that.
    It's why Naruto's a strategic genius. He never gives up, he continues to think and plan ahead and come up with complex plans because he believes he can win. End of Naruto vs. Neji definitely proves this, as well as end of Naruto vs. Deva. Even in the beginning of the fight, he managed to trick Neji into going for his "real" self by predicting what Neji would think, as Naruto did with Kakuzu. He's just that damn unorthodox, which is why he's a genius in terms of strategy. If it weren't for Jiraiya's jutsu repertoire, I'd have voted for Naruto easily.

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto_Rasengan View Post
    A list of jutsu Naruto has used to date;

    Spoiler show


    I think that pretty much covers everything in terms of Jutsu and weapons Naruto has used throughout the series. I broke it down into groups so we can clearly see that Naruto knows more than 4 jutsu.

    Also, anyone who tries to deny Naruto's strategic genius is delusional.
    Feels like you used Wikipedia to get the info or some other site...

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    Re: Naruto vs Jiraiya

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Feels like you used Wikipedia to get the info or some other site...
    Multiple sites, including wiki, and my collection of volumes. It'sl just a compilation of jutsu (Skills/Techniques) Naruto has used throughout the series. It's purpose was simply to show what Naruto is capable of because people still seem to completely disregard his abilities regardless of how easily he made it to this point of the tournament.

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