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  • Itachi

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    Itachi vs Minato



    this keeps the others ones nicely aligned


    A child prodigy who grew up with a deep desire for peace after witnessing the horrors of war, Itachi choose to eliminate his own clan to ensure the continuing peace. Awakening his Sharingan at the age of eight and being a captain of Anbu at thirteen, Itachi's power was notorious even before the massacre of his clan. As a member of the formidable Uchiha clan, Itachi was able to activate the rare MS. In battle, Itachi is able to stay two steps away of his opponents by using his genius intellect. While possessing excellent skills all around, Itachi's main method of fighting is using his powerful genjutsus to break his opponent's spirits and leave them defenseless. Alongside his genjutsus, Itachi makes use of various clone techniques in addition to his skillful Suiton and Katon ninjutsus.
    this keeps the others ones nicely aligned


    The "Yellow Flash" and Fourth Hokage of Konohagakure is lionized as the hero who saved the village from the Kyūbi no Yōko. Noted by his sensei, Jiraiya, as the most gifted shinobi ever produced by their village, he is highly skilled as a shinobi. He possesses remarkable agility, chakra capacity, and intelligence. His prowess with space-time ninjutsu is such that he can create space-time barriers and teleport foes as immense as the Kyūbi. Proficient in fūinjutsu, he can summon toads like his sensei and can detect the presence of others by placing his finger on the ground like the Second Hokage. His most notable jutsu creations are the Rasengan, Hiraishin, and Shiki Fūjin.
    this keeps the others ones nicely aligned


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    Re: Itachi vs Minato

    Minato takes it. Amaterasu is useless, imo, Susanoo unlikely to land any hits, and Minato has no known weakness to genjutsu. Itachi's chakra is too low to fight for long and he lacks the speed to handle Minato, and the numbers Minato can bring to bear. Minato takes it with some trouble but convincingly.

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    Re: Itachi vs Minato

    Fight starts, Itachi uses genjutsu = Minato dies the next second.

    Itachi stomps in some 3 seconds probably.

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    Re: Itachi vs Minato

    No known weaknesses to genjutsu? Is that some code for "anyone that hasn't had genjutsu performed on them is immune to even Itachi's genjutsu?"

    I'll wait until there are actual play-by-plays/arguments before I vote this one, it's actually fairly difficult, since both can effectively OHKO the other, IMO.

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    Re: Itachi vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    Fight starts, Itachi uses genjutsu = Minato dies the next second.

    Itachi stomps in some 3 seconds probably.
    Seems unlikely. Itachi has great genjutsu, but Minato has never shown any susceptibility to genjutsu, so I am not really thinking Itachi can one-shot him with any. Plus Minato would likely be off of Itachi's radar before he could activate sharingan or any genjutsu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UchihaHunter View Post
    No known weaknesses to genjutsu? Is that some code for "anyone that hasn't had genjutsu performed on them is immune to even Itachi's genjutsu?"
    No, not immune, just not assumed to be one-shotted either, imo. Feel free to argue and vote as you wish.

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    Re: Itachi vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by jdw View Post
    Seems unlikely. Itachi has great genjutsu, but Minato has never shown any susceptibility to genjutsu, so I am not really thinking Itachi can one-shot him with any. Plus Minato would likely be off of Itachi's radar before he could activate sharingan or any genjutsu.

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    No, not immune, just not assumed to be one-shotted either.
    Again, you're assuming that because no one has used genjutsu on him, he's not going to be affected the way everyone else was?

    Edit: Next it'll be "well he knows how to break out of genjutsu, so Itachi can't catch him in one," lol

    Edit #2: To be fair though, Minato tosses some kunai at the beginning of the fight and it's GG if Itachi hasn't used genjutsu (I'm not sure he activates Susanoo in time)

    Lol Edit #3: Not sure if this should be a factor, but Minato seems to let his opponents strike first, then goes for a killer counterattack (whether it's Raikage or Tobi, IIRC)
    Last edited by UchihaHunter; July 22, 2011 at 02:39 PM.

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    Re: Itachi vs Minato

    Didn't say that either. I think he could theoretically lose to genjutsu, but I am not assuming he will. For instance, Naruto is shown to be weak against Genjutsu, so Itachi would immediately have the benefit of the doubt, here, there is no such evidence.

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    Re: Itachi vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by jdw View Post
    Seems unlikely. Itachi has great genjutsu, but Minato has never shown any susceptibility to genjutsu, so I am not really thinking Itachi can one-shot him with any. Plus Minato would likely be off of Itachi's radar before he could activate sharingan or any genjutsu.

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    No, not immune, just not assumed to be one-shotted either, imo. Feel free to argue and vote as you wish.

    The manga does not need to show that Minato is vulnerable to genjutsu but the other way around. Do post the long list of feats in genjutsu and combating it from Minato.

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    Re: Itachi vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by jdw View Post
    Didn't say that either. I think he could theoretically lose to genjutsu, but I am not assuming he will. For instance, Naruto is shown to be weak against Genjutsu, so Itachi would immediately have the benefit of the doubt, here, there is no such evidence.
    Is Kakashi weak against Genjutsu?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    The manga does not need to show that Minato is vulnerable to genjutsu but the other way around. Do post the long list of feats in genjutsu and combating it from Minato.
    Show me Minato losing to a genjutsu. Take your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UchihaHunter View Post
    Is Kakashi weak against Genjutsu?
    He has been proven to be susceptible to Tsukuyomi, so to that, yes, but i would not assume he is vulnerable to lesser genjutsu.

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    Re: Itachi vs Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by xXan View Post
    The manga does not need to show that Minato is vulnerable to genjutsu but the other way around. Do post the long list of feats in genjutsu and combating it from Minato.
    Come on this is Minato we are talking about. If he coughed on someone they would probably die. Granted that was never shown in the manga. But it can safely be assumed to be true. The dudes going to win the entire tournament regardless of what he has or hasn't shown. The Legend of Minato > Everyone and everything else currently in existence.

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    Re: Itachi vs Minato

    Anyone without Sharingan, an Uchiha body, and/or some other way to disrupt their chakra (although, we actually haven't seen that used on Itachi's Tsukuyomi) is susceptible to Tsukuyomi >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by zerocooldx View Post
    Come on this is Minato we are talking about. If he coughed on someone they would probably die. Granted that was never shown in the manga. But it can safely be assumed to be true. The dudes going to win the entire tournament regardless of what he has or hasn't shown. The Legend of Minato > Everyone and everything else.
    So then we should assume that Kabuto's lowly feather genjutsu can one-shot Rikudou sennin as well? He never showed a defense.

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    Re: Itachi vs Minato

    Whats the point of using the genjutsu argument? It always goes down to "Minato's never proven that he can get out of Genjutsu" and "Minato's never been shown to be susceptible to genjutsu" that will almost always be what it breaks down to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdw View Post
    So then we should assume that Kabuto's lowly feather genjutsu can one-shot Rikudou sennin as well? He never showed a defense.
    The difference between A Rank genjutsu and Itachi's Tsukuyomi is like heaven and earth. Likewise, the difference between Kabuto and Rikudou Sennin, lol

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