Itachi vs Minato

[DaHeroic1]

This match should be an interesting debate. I have no clue who would win right now. From how both characters were portrayed in the manga this fight will be decided in the first minute lol. From Deidara, Madara, Raikage, and Orochimaru's expierences Minato and Itachi waste no time with their opponents. Right now i'm going for mutual strike down ala Muu and 2nd mizukage. It all comes down to whether Itachi can get a Tsukiyomi off on Minato and vise verse if Minato will jus speed blitz itachi the entire fight. Damn this is a tough call.

[Phoenix946]

why do you say that?

Why wouldn't I? He has successfully attacked Madara and Raikage from their blindspot. He will always be behind Itachi as soon as his kunai are spread, no matter where Itachi looks.

And why not? I lost count on how many times he was before Madara... Also the example was not mine. Someone tried to prove with that something about Minato and more exacly his reaction times.

He hadn't spread out kunai there and had to get Naruto safe first.

Then it was that person's bad example

[En Yang Ji]

I doubt he'll get that off before Itachi gets off a genjutsu.

[jdw]

Yeah i have to agree what that first part of your post. He can counter Susano easy by moving away and forcing Itachi to stop the jutsu BUT Susano is still a great defensive buttong for the moments when he needs a instant defense or he dies.



Oh excuse me where we discusing who wins a fight or who has the better reaction times? What about raiton jutsus? Who is better at that?If we where discusing the raiton jutsu would you answer the same way as above? We where discusing a precise point about those 2 and you changed the subject as you where unable to provide a logical answer.

No logical answer? Minato outclassed Raikage in every way that was shown. Reaction time and speed. The only person aside from Minato who did respectably was Bee. Raikage directly admitted the speed loss out of his own mouth, and even if his speed is greater, if Minato's reaction time was lower than Raikage he would probably have been killed and certainly would not have been ready to put Raikage in a wheelchair. .

[DementedKirby]

Yeah i have to agree what that first part of your post. He can counter Susano easy by moving away and forcing Itachi to stop the jutsu BUT Susano is still a great defensive buttong for the moments when he needs a instant defense or he dies.

The thing is that Itachi is severely handicapped in this tournament. How long was he able to sustain Susano'o against Sasuke? He clearly used it up to the point his body bailed on him. Can we use that as a suitable comparison as to how long Itachi can sustain Susano'o? If so, argumenting that Susano'o is Itachi's way to beat Minato can't be used.

Itachi shouldn't have been so handicapped in this tournament. He (even if he was with Madara) took on his entire clan. Was ANBU leader before he was even a teenager. Who knows when he started to get ill? If not for his illness, this battle would be even more legendary.

It's not known how Minato will avoid or counter Itachi's genjutsu. Less than one second to disrupt Tsukoyomi is pretty messed up. Amaterasu is a no brainer. If A evaded Amaterasu, Minato plain ol' laughs at it. Yet, even with all this, Minato's still gotta deal with a ninja of Itachi's caliber.

[H.M.K]

- A's reflexes with cloak are implied to be faster than Minato's, so A's feats in V2 don't work for Minato. Amaterasu would still work if Itachi used it normally, but there is another way Itachi can ensure it hits. Itachi can look at Minato's feet, when executing Amaterasu. Also A looked at Sasuke's eyes, and prepared for Amaterasu. If Minato does the same he would be put in a genjutsu.

- Itachi can create his Karasu bunshin behind Minato and have it stab him.

- Itachi has multiple different ways to catch Minato in a genjutsu: his eyes, his finger and his crows.

you are right Itachi has multiple ways to cast a genjutsu but the only one Minato has to fear is Tsukuyomi the rest is not strong enough to work against someone of Minato caliper and we all sow that Naruto almost broke his finger genjutsu during Gara rescue arc and we all know how weak Naruto was back then

[Phoenix946]

I doubt he'll get that off before Itachi gets off a genjutsu.

Yep, that's also my only doubt. It's just a matter of character estimation whether or not Itachi would take that shot, not realizing it's his only shot.

[xXan]

No logical answer? Minato outclassed Raikage in every way that was shown. Reaction time and speed. The only person aside from Minato who did respectably was Bee. Raikage directly admitted the speed loss out of his own mouth, and even if his speed is greater, if Minato's reaction time was lower than Raikage he would probably have been killed and certainly would not have been ready to put Raikage in a wheelchair. .

You faill to understand that if you notice a person after he runs 6 meters right in front of you that is NOT a good reaction times feat. Minato showed better speed because he could instantly move from point A to B but nothing in that fight has he showed better reaction times. But i am starting to get used to "he is Minato" so he is better then the rest of the world in anything.

Do show me where he outclased Raikage in reaction times. And no a instant attack in the blind spot does not counts.

[jdw]

You faill to understand that if you notice a person after he runs 6 meters right in front of you that is NOT a good reaction times feat. Minato showed better speed because he could instantly move from point A to B but nothing in that fight has he showed better reaction times. But i am starting to get used to "he is Minato" so he is better then the rest of the world in anything.

Do show me where he outclased Raikage in reaction times. And no a instant attack in the blind spot does not counts.

If you are going to remove his feats, then of course the list will be zero. That doesn't even take any effort on your part. "Show me where he outclassed raikage, but don't use the times where he did it"

Hiraishin only put him in position, he still had to stab and Raikage failed to even do anything about that.

[EMS]

this is one of the best fight in this tournament, minato is a legend while itachi is one of the top 3 best users of the MS but minato is the one that stopped madara's plan to attacked konoha with the kyuubi.
i have to think about which one will have my vote.

[xXan]

If you are going to remove his feats, then of course the list will be zero. That doesn't even take any effort on your part. "Show me where he outclassed raikage, but don't use the times where he did it"

Hiraishin only put him in position, he still had to stab and Raikage failed to even do anything about that.

I am removing that as it is NOT a reaction times feat.. God man WTH? That was a attack that he could not comprehend just like Madara. Even the byakugan has a blind spot in the back of his head.

[En Yang Ji]

If you are going to remove his feats, then of course the list will be zero. That doesn't even take any effort on your part. "Show me where he outclassed raikage, but don't use the times where he did it"

Hiraishin only put him in position, he still had to stab and Raikage failed to even do anything about that.

using Hirashin isn't much of a feat.

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Yep, that's also my only doubt. It's just a matter of character estimation whether or not Itachi would take that shot, not realizing it's his only shot.

IC Itachi would likely take advantage of any chance he gets to use genjutsu.

[DementedKirby]

using Hirashin isn't much of a feat.

If it wasn't much of a feat, how come Minato is the only one who uses it?

[ninjabot]

How in the Blue Hell did Itachi beat Madara?

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Well, whatever. On topic, I think Minato's ability to press the offensive from the beginning of the fight is being overestimated (shocker!). Itachi doesn't have to enter MS to guarantee his Genjutsu works against Minato, because Minato has displayed no...

Nah. I'm not saying it again. It didn't work for every user of Genjutsu in this manga when they went against a member of the arian trinity, so it won't work now. Congrats on the win Minato.

[jdw]

I am removing that as it is NOT a reaction times feat.. God man WTH? That was a attack that he could not comprehend just like Madara. Even the byakugan has a blind spot in the back of his head.

It does require a reaction feat because he acted in response to Raikage in the first place (and left a kunai behind!), then reacted to his arrival in the tree, then reacted when he arrived at Raikage to stab him in the spine.

Reaction: a response to some foregoing action or stimulus