Mahou Sensei Negima 334 Discussion / 335 Predictions

[Ceipheed]

ok, here goes nothing.

first 5 pages
the dialogue is either "Asuna(-san)!" or "Negi!" in all the bubbles

pages 6 and 7
Negi and Asuna hold a contest on who got more worried about. in the end, Eva-chan tells them that its all good if they wanna be flirting, but to take care of the guy behind them (the Lifemaker) first.

page 8 and 9
LM goes *pew pew* on them. Asuna blocks it and has Negi help her dealing the final blow. Im kinda wondering if Akamatsu-sensei had any special reason to change her clothes to white other than the Ala Alba reference.

page 10 and 11
"Aaaaaaah!" *booooommmmm*

page 12
and the winner is.... *drums*

page 13
OMGtotallyunexpectedturnofevents.... not. Nagi tells Negi to come kill him

page 14
...so that everything could be over

page 15
seems like Negi is M... who woulda know...

anyway, Negi says there are more important things to be worrying about rather than this. Asuna says that its all good; that it (unspecified, but she must mean the ritual/destruction of the magic world) she stopped it alrdy.

page 16
to Negi's surprise, Asuna seems fully aware of what was going on while she was under. seems like she can bring back the people that where rewritten, but the buildings and lands that were destroyed are beyond her.

page 17
Asuna thanks everyone for their help and proceeds to summon the Great Grand Master Key.

"I, daughter of the Lifemaker, descendant of the Founder Amateru, on the name of Asuna Vesperina Theotanasia Entheofusia..."

page 18
"I command the world be restored!"


and so, this rather controversial chapter ends.

[Giriath]

While I agree with the general consensus that this chapter was weak and made a bad end for what has otherwise been the best arc in the manga, this chapter wasn't really the end of it. The arc ended when Fate surrendered and we learned the real MotB is sealed beneath the World Tree--this chapter is just the inevitable happy-ending polish.

I'm sure this Nagi!MotB wasn't the real Nagi, and that he really does exist elsewhere. If it really was him, he was obviously under some spell that forced him to act against his will, but I find that scenario about as unlikely as Nagi being genuinely evil.

As for Asuna suddenly being so powerful, this is really the theme of the series; the protagonists quite inexplicably succeeding against overwhelming odds. It's not intended as a rational and serious series that makes sense, and as such should not provoke irritation in its readers when it doesn't. Keep this in mind when you read it and don't expect anything else, or you will continue to be sorely disappointed.

[Ultimaniac]

I think he's possessed by the Lifemaker's will. Similar to Roa in Tsukihime. If you'd been paying attention, it happened to that woman from Fate's flashback first. Then Zect, then Nagi.

[masgrande]

If Nagi really did tell Negi to go kill him it could mean that they are going to deal with the Life Maker and Nagi the next arc.

[deathevn]

If Nagi really did tell Negi to go kill him it could mean that they are going to deal with the Life Maker and Nagi the next arc.

thats the most likely to happend, but i dont think is gonna be a long arc, its gonna be a real short one.

[Togu Alaxus]

thats the most likely to happend, but i dont think is gonna be a long arc, its gonna be a real short one.

I don´t think so.
Now there will come a few fillers with comedy, the school is going to continue and so on.
Then the "training-year" is over and Negi get his Diplom or someting this way. Maybe he cancels Evas curse, and so on, and so on.

Then the next bigger arc will start. ( And hopefully not the last, because there are to many open questions to handle with in only one arc.)

[bebuxe]

No, Ken just wanted to pin up negi and asuna like in page 5 and and 10.

Still waiting for the applause.

Next order of immediate business, how to get everyone back to Earth, get Negi and Asuna acquainted with the family members in MM, do Negi's lol-some plan, find Arika with solution at hand for the LM diseases on Nagi, get some nice other fun plot in between, get negi graduated, and the girls with their separate but united careers, say mellow dramatic ending, cry for wanting to see a dark epilogue. the end.

yeah, I went too far....

I like the idea though, that negi will have to fight his father, but end up actually healing him at the very end, maybe at the dying moments while eva gets her desired pat pat. Mmm, and it is a wonder if Nagi body is really the one contained and sealed....

Let's see want more we can discuss while we wait to the uncalled for break.

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[Togu Alaxus]

I like the idea though, that negi will have to fight his father, but end up actually healing him at the very end, maybe at the dying moments while eva gets her desired pat pat.

There is this great-super-legendary-anti-demon-spell Hermann mentioned long ago. This will be the ultimate spell to split MotB and Nagi and to kill MotB.

Mmm, and it is a wonder if Nagi body is really the one contained and sealed...

That's the part that I'm not convinced.

After 20 years of fighting between Nagi and MotB, don´t you think Nagi has recogniced his/her powers? Even if Nagi is an idiot, he would know of MotB´s request to take over his body. So he could take countermeasures.
On the other Hand he could be willing to be taken over. Nagi is, in my opinion, the only one (til now) who is capable of taking over the control over MotB. So he can prevent MotB to go wild. Even if it is only a little.

[chaosprophettk]

I heave spent my day to re-read all the arc-ends til now and they were all... better.
I can´t really say why but it feels like Akamatsu-Sensei could have made the end for this really long arc a little bit better.
It feels like he didn´t used all of his possibilities. (Don´t know how to explain it better.)

But there is at least one another arc coming in the near future. And I have high hopes for it.

Personally I understand why the battle against LM went quickly. The main enemy for this arc, the enemy that was the main focus of Negi since more than 130 chs ago was Fate and not LM, while we heard about LM for some time, he only appeared around the end. It makes even more sense considering LM last words imply Negi will have to fight him eventually, in an arc where probably the aim is going to be LM from the beggining.

what I do dislike about this chapter is how fast everything was settled AFTER beating the (fake) Lifemaker. Asuna being all like "yeah, I know everything thats been going on and I also know how to stop it / fix it ;D" is not exactly a development I appreciate.

I was expecting she would be able to know how to use the CotL after recovering her memories and being used by the ritual.

[bebuxe]

There is this great-super-legendary-anti-demon-spell Hermann mentioned long ago. This will be the ultimate spell to split MotB and Nagi and to kill MotB.

And now you are assume MotB is a demon.... I doubt it is a charm spell that MotB does. Possession more probable. But repellent spell? I doubt that will work on the assumption Nagi's soul is sealed or dissembled in his body. we will see.

Even if Nagi is an idiot, he would know of MotB´s request to take over his body. So he could take countermeasures.
On the other Hand he could be willing to be taken over. Nagi is, in my opinion, the only one (til now) who is capable of taking over the control over MotB. So he can prevent MotB to go wild. Even if it is only a little.

Under what bases?
1. How would Nagi have known about the possession ability and made countermeasures? I would assume Arika would be a better schemer than Nagi, but under what base could have they known? Witnessing Zect possing as the LM during the 10 years? Well, that's plausible..., EDIT:
but countermeasures..., mmmm.... ThaT's it! Nagi with Arika may have being studying just that, searching for clues to prevent the LM possession. Unless, that was what LM was doing under Nagi's body. mmmm....

2. But what I assume is that Nagi sacrificed himself to safe Arika as LM's choice for possession. I doubt LM would even consider choosing the Mage from nowhere, no class, or status.

3. Seriously, Nagi, having control of MotB.... I will not expand further. I will just assume you were joking.

4. This is not FMA, where Greed and Ling fight body control. At the least, it seems a requirement is the death of the individual. Zect "died" in fight MotB, the princess that MotB possessed probably died too. (yep, highly biased assertion). Also for the LM to be sealed, under the world tree means that whom ever that body is, it had no control over the LM. So count that control thing out.

[Ceipheed]

@bebuxe. being a little nitpicky here.

I think its highly unlikely that Nagi died before being taken by the MotB. if he had died, then Al's and Rakan's Pactios wouldve gone along with him.

also, i dont think the MotB would discriminate against Nagi for being a commoner. I say this based on the small piece of dialogue between him and Primum during fate's flashback.

anyway, Im starting to wonder what Nagi meant with "Come kill me". it almost sounds as if he wasnt sealed under the tree. u can probably chalk this up to that Nagi being no more than an illusion and probably unaware of the state of his actual body, but anyone who couldve projected that image is aware of the whereabouts of the MotB, right? maybe Im overthinking things...

also, curious about what happened to chibimage that allowed for all of this to happen

[Xingster]

I don't think that's Nagi for one reason.
When he got hit by the combo Asuna/Negi attack, he faded into particles.
Now, according to what we already know, only residents of the MW react that way.
As far as we know, Nagi is from the real world, and thus wouldn't react in that way.
I'm guessing its some sort of construct or projection of power.
After all, we've already got characters who can emulate other characters.
Just my two cents.

[chiusama]

i'm just wondering, if nagi is the image of MoTB, then where is arika? (hope it's on the next arc.^^)
i feel nagi is really alive, and i think arika is somewhere guarding or at any circumstance together with the real body nagi.
i guess this pulls zazie, demon plane, and the mother of yuuna in the equation.^^

just my wild guess

[deathevn]

i hope there is some good explanition on nagi, arika, and the lifemaker, becasue is the lifemaker was just a projection this leaves us whit him sealed under mahora and nagi alredy found, and no way to free himself. then negi is gonna see the crystal and swearing that he would save his father, and end of the manga

[Revolation]

@ deathevn: Also we have known for more than 9 months that Asuna would be getting ME powers as an upgrade for her artifact (though we are not sure if it is going to be a permanent thing or not).

Why? What happened 9 months ago. (bad memory)

also this arc was not rushed at all. this arc was freakishly long(which would be understandable if this was the last arc, but it seems that is isn't after all which is good i guess).

also, asuna had MagicCancel from the beginning in a manga about magic. i don't see why people didn't realize this would happen once she learned to control it better. If this were bleach she'd be pulling this out of nowhere, but this has been since the beginning.

What do you guys want another 10 chapter fight with MORE breaks by the mangaka?(i'm sure he actually needs them though. it is a stressful job he has) It was why I was glad Eva owned all the anoying people last chapter.