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I need proof of Isley's type, a *MANGA* source (ch and pg) saying he's OT (offensive type) or DT (defensive type), as I myself don't personally recall the manga ever saying what type he is.
my own stance of the databooks, they're NOT the manga, the databooks is not a story there's no content telling of all that has transpired, no that's the MANGA, as it is and has the story of Claymore, the MANGA has the story from ch 1 to ch 117, not the databooks. For me the databooks is even more irrelevant than the anime, because at least the anime is a story-telling of Claymore, a slightly different version (the last few episodes) from the manga and thus it's not the manga, but-whereas as I said, the databooks has NO story-telling version of Claymore at all. The databooks is completely irrelevant "in my book" (sorry for the bad pun here, hehe, lol).
I'm only concerned with understand the manga, and the databooks is not the manga, it's irrelevant to me.
If Yagi wants the databooks' content to be relevant for me, than he needs to put it into the manga as a normal chapter or as an "extra-special" chapter like the 4 he already has done.
this is my own literary's and researcher's view, if you want the databooks relevant, that's certainly your perogative lol, but I do not give nor see any relevance to it, as I'm only concerned with understanding the manga's version of the story of Claymore, and not any other outside-irrelevant sources, be they the anime, a fan-fic, or the databooks.
Last edited by HegemonKhan; August 13, 2011 at 10:04 PM.
I just don't understand that but everybody's got their own opinion.
I understand HK's position regarding the data book. Perhaps, I'm biased because I share the same opinion. I've never seen the actual data book, just mere scans that have been posted on various forums. If I recall, it basically gives numerical ranking of power skills and abilities. I doubt that Yagi, as a story teller, actually had a hand in creating that data book.
The threads provide a means of discussing events that occurred in the actual manga. As such, IMHO the data book doesn't have any bearing, since it's a third party addendum. In the Endless Gravestone arc, Ophelia stated the difference in what ultimately decides whether a warrior becomes offensive or defensive. Basically, if you think that aggression is the best way of achieving self preservation, then you fall in the offensive category.
To be honest, you can look either way in regards to the data book. It's purely a matter of perspective and in what you find relevant or applicable.
Last edited by wickedsmile; August 14, 2011 at 07:05 PM.
Currently, I believe all of the #1 Claymore's shown have been offensive. However, I don't think we can accurately guess the types of some as it seems the line blurs the stronger you are, #1 or not. Case and point Miata and Priscilla, who appears to be both. Also the Abyssal Ones, though not the level of Devene, seem to have great regenerative ability, when not being pressured by strong opponents.
a post of mine about OTs (Offensive Types), DTs (Defensive Types), and abilities from another site:
Originally Posted by HegemonKhan
That's possible, but if for me it seems, you remember or you don't, you're able to remember and Regenerate or you're not able to Remember nor Regenerate. And, as we know, time can degrade one's memory of their body parts, as there is a limit to when Regeneration remains possible and when it's not longer possible due to that time-degradation of one's memory.
It's like in real life, as let's say it's 50 years later since you seen your school friend, you either remember what they look like or you don't, there's no partial memory nor "slowly remembering", lol. You remember them instantly and in full appearance, or you don't, lol. I'm not talking about seeing this friend again nor seeing a picture of him, which obviously should "jog" your memory back, lol. I'm talking about actually trying to remember, trying to imagine in your mind, a school friend's appearance whom you haven't seen for 50 years.
Also, just to note, in re-reading the manga for something unrelated, I learned that it's even the same for Re-Attachment too. As Re-Attachment requires the same memory to Re-Attach as Regeneration needs the memory to "Re-Construct", and thus if one waits too long, they can't Re-Attach body parts, as well as not being able to Regenerate them too. (I can give the source if interested).
Last edited by HegemonKhan; August 15, 2011 at 12:46 AM.
It is impossible to answer that question since we lack enought info about the number 1, we dont even know for sure if the abyssmal ones and priscilla are all offensive or not.
What we do know is, awaken beings due to their massive youki can regenerate alot faster than regular claymores regardless if they were offensive/defensive types, there are some exceptions like Dauf, it is stated by Riful that it takes him alot of time to regenerate due to his massive and hardened body.And Rigardo also couldnt regenerate his arm right away after Clare cut it off, but in general majority of the awaken beings have suberb regenerating abilitys that arent limited or based on their types when they were claymores (in the sense u cant tell if they were offensive/defensive types by how good they are at regenerating after awakening).Take Priscilla as an example she was an offensive type according to the databook, i think nobody here can say that her ability to regenerate as an awaken being is ridiculous fast right?
Also offensive claymores can regenerate to some extend, they can reatache limbs and regenerate their eyes like the dude told Rafaella that she could do it.Whoever they can not grown full limbs back, meaning if their leg/arm is destroyed they lost it forever (refer to Claires fight against Ophelia to check if u dont believe me)
On another note Galathea could regenerate her eyes on her own she just choose not to do it because it made her hiding in the holy town easier, i think it was Tabitha that offered to helf her regenerate her eyes if she needed help but she said it has being so long that she forgot how her eyes looked like or something like that. Most likely it has being so long that even though she has the power to regenerate it herself she dosent remember how it looked like and therefor cant do it.
Last edited by Unholy; August 21, 2011 at 01:34 PM.
I think Teresa, with her ability of sensing yoki, and Roxanne which is a sensor too, are both defensive.
Have you seen Teresa fight? She is for sure an offensive.Originally Posted by metalia
Last edited by HegemonKhan; August 24, 2011 at 07:51 PM.
Yes Teresa is an offensive type, it is on one of the very few translated databook pages, nothing about roxanne though.It would be easy to figure that all out if someone was still translating the book but i think nobody doing it anymore.