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    Claymore Claymore 119 Discussion

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    Re: Claymore 118 Disc/119 Pred Thread

    Spoiler: probably fake spoiler of ch. 119 [in Japanese] found on TSS show

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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    ...Nobody has a trans?

    What does TSS stand for?

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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    This spoiler speak about the battle of Miria VS Histeria. A new tecnique of Miria hit more time histeria. Roxanne and cassandra are shoking for this. In the same time, dae and the other members of the organization are looking for raki. Rafutera have regained her forces and continue to help other claymore on the battlefield.

    Some part are very confused but this is the principal line of this spoiler.

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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    Okay, nothing too improbable there.

    What does it mean? It means your about to get your butt kicked!

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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    質問!

    Jump Square comes out on Oct 4th, I am not sure where people get the spoilers this early,
    given they are real.

    If anyone wants to share where to find them I will gladly fetch and translate them for you.

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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Aphetto View Post
    質問!

    Jump Square comes out on Oct 4th, I am not sure where people get the spoilers this early,
    given they are real.

    If anyone wants to share where to find them I will gladly fetch and translate them for you.
    You can supposedly find things by Friday, at the latest.

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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Aphetto View Post
    質問!

    Jump Square comes out on Oct 4th, I am not sure where people get the spoilers this early,
    given they are real.

    If anyone wants to share where to find them I will gladly fetch and translate them for you.
    With Claymore a lot of the time the spoilers come from the chinese version for some reason. It's not unusual for the chinese version to show up several days before the Japanese.

    What does it mean? It means your about to get your butt kicked!

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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    Well here is a ROUGH summary of the spoiler posted above:

    Hysteria is overwhelmed by Miria's spontaneous awakening.
    Roxanne senses the blast coming from the release and retreats.
    She cannot and does not want to mimic the technique, she feels it is to be avoided like the Dust Eater.
    The org experimented / forced Claymores to spontaneously awaken, but no matter how well she could control her spirit, the ultimate soldier their wanted was not created.
    Alicia and Beth are nothing more than a byproduct of those experiments.
    Hysteria also increases her speed, but as soon as she does, Miria surpasses it.
    Hysteria does not evade or block the attacks that follow one another.
    Neither Cassandra can capture Miria in her current form, the latter focusing Hysteria.
    A “storm of bloodspray” arises.
    Audrey says: “Looks like the Phantom, … but this is Furious Tempest Miria” (狂嵐 lit. “crazy storm”)
    Hysteria's limbs fly in the air. As soon as the bloodstained sandstorm settles, Miria grazes Cassandra's cheek.
    Cassandra uses the Dust Eater, bending her body, barely evading the slash but is hit to her side.
    Meanwhile, Roxanne has doubts about Miria's precision and feels like someone (Raftela) is helping her. She rushes into the org's HQ.

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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    Wow... Go Miria Go!

    Roxanne was actually rushing to the Org HQs, *^&*^& herself ("turning her pants brown and yellow") in fear from Miria, hehe

    (if this is true spoiler and translation of it, a few of my theories have come true hehe, and my big wish too, of finally seeing another HA's Awakened form... unless Miria doesn't actually partially/fully Awaken... argh... though I hope this translation is meaning that Miria can indeed Awaken and De-Awaken at will, while not actually becoming an Awaken, keeping her Human mind. I have pondered this capability of Clare as well, but it was cut short and interfered with by the "Jean's Wedge"-Priscilla Retraction incident... argh)
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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    To be honest I have never read Claymore in Japanese so I am not familiar with the
    "manga specific vocabulary" e.g. 瞬間覚醒's last half is "awakening", the first part is
    shunshin; instantaneous. Like 瞬間の術 Shunshin no Jutsu from Naruto.

    Someone with more experience can tell correctly for sure.

    Also, Roxanne headed to the HQ after sensing a "weird power" coming from there,
    can't really say she was fleeing from Miria

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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    the fleeing part by Roxanne was merely a joke by me, if the spoiler that you translated was a real spoiler.

    (a.k.a. roxanne doesn't wanna get pwned like hysteria was according to the spoiler and your translation of it, hehe)

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    I know Claymore pretty well, but unfortunately I'd need to know Japanese/be able to translate to be able to tell myself, though with Awakening being used, it probably means Awakening (duh), but we'll just have to wait and see if Miria has actually partially/fully Awakened, and then also whether she can partially/fully Awaken at will or not.

    -it would be too much effort though to try to explain this Claymore manga concept of Awakening, as it's quite complicated even for us, and thus trying to explain it to someone who doesn't know Claymore story, would be extremely challenging. Even, our understandings of Awakening, are merely our theories, it's still quite a mystery and we're only speculating or hopefully informed speculating anyways, lol, about Awakening and its details/minutia.

    -also, I'm not sure how to interprete "instantaneous" in relation (or is it in relation? Instantaneous may just have to do with Miria's new faster speed, and not have anything to do with her Awakening or whether she's actually Awakening or not) to "Awakening" at this point with what I know of Claymore, of Miria and Awakening... my attempt at interpreting could be nearly anything at this point, and that's far too speculatory for even speculation, lol.

    So, I'll just have to wait for the translated manga to come out in a few days to a week.
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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Aphetto View Post
    Well here is a ROUGH summary of the spoiler posted above:

    Hysteria is overwhelmed by Miria's spontaneous awakening.
    Roxanne senses the blast coming from the release and retreats.
    She cannot and does not want to mimic the technique, she feels it is to be avoided like the Dust Eater.
    The org experimented / forced Claymores to spontaneously awaken, but no matter how well she could control her spirit, the ultimate soldier their wanted was not created.
    Alicia and Beth are nothing more than a byproduct of those experiments.
    Hysteria also increases her speed, but as soon as she does, Miria surpasses it.
    Hysteria does not evade or block the attacks that follow one another.
    Neither Cassandra can capture Miria in her current form, the latter focusing Hysteria.
    A “storm of bloodspray” arises.
    Audrey says: “Looks like the Phantom, … but this is Furious Tempest Miria” (狂嵐 lit. “crazy storm”)
    Hysteria's limbs fly in the air. As soon as the bloodstained sandstorm settles, Miria grazes Cassandra's cheek.
    Cassandra uses the Dust Eater, bending her body, barely evading the slash but is hit to her side.
    Meanwhile, Roxanne has doubts about Miria's precision and feels like someone (Raftela) is helping her. She rushes into the org's HQ.
    hmm, so far sounds rather convincing. not unlikely, and it is quite possible that miria could do this. if she found out how to sub awaken like clare managed, she could possibly manage. it is like in the north, seven years ago, when clare and the claymores met that awken with the aiblity to manipulate other's yoki. likely, the certain number three clare enouncter had to be many times his strength, yet her technique is inferior to his.

    roxanne begins to remind my of clare. the only difference, clare does not murder for those abilities.

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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    Roxy isn't just bieng afraid from the sounds of things. She's figured out that Rafetela is helping, and is going to deal with her.

    What does it mean? It means your about to get your butt kicked!

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    Re: Claymore 119 Spoiler Thread

    Well, if the spoiler's true, then go Miria. Other than that, it shows the problems with Dust Eater that I imagined had to exist. The fact is, any higher level Claymore, and none of this generation's claymores counted as higher level, should be able to react to Dust Eater.

    I expected that Hysteria > Cassandra, and as Miria's technique outspeeded/overwhelmed Cassandra, I'm really not that surprised that Miria can beat Cassandra as well.

    Quick Sword should be able to blanket the area for example and massacre Cassandra. Look at all of Clare's QS attacks which she can't literally touch Dauf with, but she more or less seems to hit him from distance with.

    Anyone with a higher level speed and sword skills should be able to beat Cassandra. It's not an amazing ability. It's unique, but Cassandra doesn't hold a candle to Irene, for example. Ophelia's most likely beyond Cassandra.

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