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Thread: Air Gear 327 Discussion/ 328 Predictions

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    Re: Air Gear 327 Spoiler Thread

    Loved how Ringo went from "imma kill this bitch" to "huh?" at the end of the chapter.

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    Re: Air Gear 327 Discussion/ 328 Predictions

    Ringo saying, "huh?" there was because of what Ikki said, so it's understandable.

    @Suahnir: When a Tuner, connected through the SC Suit to Chronos and the Gram Scale, does a "King"'s Tuning, he/she finds out everything there is to know about the "King," not just what he/she has to know to make the Regalia compatible with the "King," during the Tuning process itself. Kanon has done Ringo's Tuning, and he said to Ikki when they first met that he's probably the one man who knows absolutely everything about Ringo. It's true that already knowing about the "King" would help, but I doubt Nana (that's Nue's Tuner's name; they call Kanon "Kana," I think) knew much about Nue before she did his Tuning, and same for Kanon in relation to Ringo. Kururu also knows things about Ikki now because she's been listening to his "sound" for a long time now.

    And also, Ine, the previous Pledge Queen (the one who chose Kururu as her successor) said that Kururu's skill with high-speed AT fixing/rebuilding/taking-apart, is on the same level as that of Simca. [There was a scene where she put together a pair of ATs in a matter of seconds, and to that, Ine said it was a new record and that she hadn't seen skill like that since Simca.] So Kururu's and Simca's skills are pretty much on par.

    I also I think either Nana or Simca should be the one to Tune Ikki, unless Kururu can help Ringo with the Tuning even while she's acting as Chronos.
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    Re: Air Gear 327 Discussion/ 328 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonOsman2 View Post
    Ringo saying, "huh?" there was because of what Ikki Kanon has done Ringo's Tuning, and he said to Ikki when they first met that he's probably the one man who knows absolutely everything about Ringo.
    Kanon has never tuned Ringo even he has stated that she's rejected him. When he said that to Ikki he was trying to get under Ikki's skin because Kanon is a jealous douche.

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    Re: Air Gear 327 Discussion/ 328 Predictions

    Kanon says to Ringo later on, while inside the "Tower," that normally, Gravity Children shouldn't need Tuning since the Regalia are made specifically for them, but that because the members of the current Sleeping Forest use Sub-Regalia (as in, Regalia that don't have an actual "core"), they require Tuning. Understand this: Ringo is able to use her Regalia pretty well even though it's a Sub-Regalia and she's a Gravity Child, meaning that if it were the original Thorn Regalia, or at least a Regalia with an actual "core," she wouldn't need Tuning. Also keep in mind that humans who aren't Gravity Children require Tuning so that they can bring out a Regalia's full potential without harming their own bodies. In other words, if Ringo, or any member of the current Sleeping Forest for that matter, used their Regalia without Tuning, they would hurt themselves since they're using Sub-Regalia, not real Regalia and would therefore require Tuning. So yeah, since Ringo is able to use her Regalia, Kanon's definitely Tuned her. Their relationship just isn't that good right now, which is why she wasn't letting him Tune her for a while there.

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    Re: Air Gear 327 Discussion/ 328 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonOsman2 View Post
    Kanon says to Ringo later on, while inside the "Tower," that normally, Gravity Children shouldn't need Tuning since the Regalia are made specifically for them, but that because the members of the current Sleeping Forest use Sub-Regalia (as in, Regalia that don't have an actual "core"), they require Tuning. Understand this: Ringo is able to use her Regalia pretty well even though it's a Sub-Regalia and she's a Gravity Child, meaning that if it were the original Thorn Regalia, or at least a Regalia with an actual "core," she wouldn't need Tuning. Also keep in mind that humans who aren't Gravity Children require Tuning so that they can bring out a Regalia's full potential without harming their own bodies. In other words, if Ringo, or any member of the current Sleeping Forest for that matter, used their Regalia without Tuning, they would hurt themselves since they're using Sub-Regalia, not real Regalia and would therefore require Tuning. So yeah, since Ringo is able to use her Regalia, Kanon's definitely Tuned her. Their relationship just isn't that good right now, which is why she wasn't letting him Tune her for a while there.
    No, after she lost to Ikki Kanon says if she allowed him to tune her she would've been able to destroy Ikki's wind. She used her sub-regalia then without much of a problem the only reason she lost is because of her road being a double edged sword outside the tower. They wouldn't hurt themselves because they aren't tuned it just means they wouldn't be at 100% when they fight.

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    Re: Air Gear 327 Discussion/ 328 Predictions

    oyos

    another point in why it may be fine for ringo to tune is that they aren't asking her to build the regalia, they are simply asking ringo to tune ikki (gather the data from ikki via physical contact). if its something as simple as that, then technically anyone can do it, but out of all the people there, ringo is the most familiar with ikki's body and would likely know just as much as simca or kururu has thus far been able to 'listen' to in the shorter amount of time that they knew him. hako is a bad choice because her own body won't understand any of ikki's reactions, plus she's a bit too infatuated that she'd probably screw up the data with her own body's sounds. simca is still kinda injured so she's not at 100% to do even a tuning, grav kid or not. heck, i'd think that simca is mature enough to let someone like ringo do it just because they need to make the storm regalia as perfect as it can be for ikki (call it a tuner's pride) and she also understands that the best way to help ikki is to give him the best support which at the moment is having ringo be the 'tuner'. if anything, simca has learned that ikki has gone beyond her expectations many times and is only now beginning to fully believe in ikki without doubt whereas ringo has never doubted ikki's potential from the beginning (of the series at least).

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    Re: Air Gear 327 Discussion/ 328 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Carnevil View Post
    No, after she lost to Ikki Kanon says if she allowed him to tune her she would've been able to destroy Ikki's wind. She used her sub-regalia then without much of a problem the only reason she lost is because of her road being a double edged sword outside the tower. They wouldn't hurt themselves because they aren't tuned it just means they wouldn't be at 100% when they fight.
    I'm pretty sure it said somewhere in the manga that the "King"s could hurt themselves if not Tuned right; it was when Tool Toul To was first introduced and they mentioned the relationship between the "King" and his/her Tuner. I'll go look for the pages if you want me to.

    @Suahnir: Yeah, that's all true, but Ringo still doesn't have much experience as a Tuner. Nana would be the better choice, IMO.

    Edit: Finally found the pages: http://manga-access.com/manga/A/Air_Gear/chapter/106/9, http://manga-access.com/manga/A/Air_Gear/chapter/106/10; from page 9, bottom panel, onwards. Read that. See? If the Tuner doesn't make the Regalia compatible with the "King"'s body and capabilities, it will become uncontrollable and cause the "King" to sustain terrible injuries. It also says that the Tuner is the "King"'s lifeline, and also that a Regalia is like a double-edged sword.

    Ringo is going to Tune Ikki, and she'll learn a lot more things about him and his body during the Tuning process that she didn't already know. It still remains as a fact that a Tuner learns everything he/she needs about the "King"'s body, heart, personality, and capabilities during Tuning. It's also possible to learn things about them beforehand, through listening to their "sound" while just living life. Kururu had always been listening to Ikki's "sound" ever since she accepted that she's his Tuner, and she knew things about him because of that. Like, for instance, when Nana and Hako equipped the first attempt Wind Regalia into his ATs and tried to give it to him, he rejected it upon finding out that Kururu hadn't done it, and told Nana and Hako to return his ATs to his original state; that time, when those two Tuners came back to the "factory," and were fuming about this, Kururu said that you can understand, by listening to his "sound," that what he rides on isn't is ATs but actually "himself," and that he rides on the wind. No one knew that except Kururu. She also later said, while on the way to the aircraft carrier with Ringo and the others, that Ikki's wish is to "break the current sky and become a sky himself, to let everyone fly freely in the sky". She said she wants to be the engineer that would repair the sky. Ikki's friendly rival. While also being his Tuner (meaning that she'd repair his own "sky," too).
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