Bleach 465 Discussion

[Mucky_Pup]

However, you can't explain why would they get upgrade on their clothes withou his power being transfered. Also, the convo between Tsuki and Ginjo about 'give some to Sushi' 'No I won't kill him then' clearly suggests that it's either he DID share with others, or Ginjo is deceiving Tsuki. What is so. Not. Going. To. Happen.
If there's someone who is something more, it has to be Tsukishima.
Or well, I hope so (cuz I cannot know), cause the moment it was revealed Ginjo is a bad guy, I lost interest in him. I liked him until that point.

Ya, that struck me after I wrote this. I had initially remembered it incorrectly, and thought it was only Tsuki that did not get some of the power. That would have made sense, being the only one that is really Kuugo's ally.

I was more thinking, that maybe he transfered Ichigo's power, but not in the amount that they had initially thought, or possibly transfered it, but took some of theirs when he did it.

I dont know man, it just seems odd to advertise these guys are super, only to find they are duds in comparison to the Captains (and crew). There just has to be a twist somewhere in there...

[abyozuu]

Anyone who believed that the Fullbringers would give trouble to the Shinigamis ----> Here's the door lol

It was water clear since the very beginning. Kubo isn't even trolling here, for anyone who is familiar with Bleach, he could easily tell that these guys are fodder material.

so kubo decided to keep us busy while allowing soul society to train hard to look more awesome.

[Airget]

These last chapters are making the shinigami look like egotistical dicks lol. You have Byakuya calling Tsuki a wimp for his power yet he never had the courage to say the same thing to Aizen which was basically the same thing, I guess he was never informed about how three captain attacked Hiyamori. And as for Byakuya's bankai I'd call that a pretty cheap trick raising up monstorous blades that can be condensed down to petal shaped blades to overwhelm a single foe with a single sword. Sure we saw Ichigo fend it off but honestly with an ability like that you can basically attack from all sides or even just stand still in a fight and let the dancing blade pedals do all the work.

As for Renji, why is he acting all high and mighty for hitting Jackie, he's like oh look at me I"ve had years of training but these last 17 months have been different, because I couldn't defeat Aizen I'm going to release all of my rage on you. It's like Renji has had years of training and while sure Ichigo was a human of immense power his circumstances are different from the FB since his spirit power was immense compared to a normal human.

These fights just don't seem enjoyable it just feels like they're all stroking they're ego while they bully humans with power, and we still have no idea why they even set up this plan. It's really hard to say oh yea shinigami kick their asses when we don't even know the main purpose for the Fullbrings existence. While sure Ginjo did say they were gonna kill Shishi cause of his ability, how is what Ginjo wanted to do any different from what the shinigami are doing now? Sure they were planning on killing him after this but right now the shinigami want to erase the existence of this fullbring group and the overall context of everything just feels wrong.

These fights would be more enjoyable if there was at least tension in them but it just feels like a way for the shinigami to stroke their ego and saying ya I did this for Aizen now I'm gonna kick the ass of a person who's 1/100 of his power and claim that with my newfound power I'd be able to defeat Aizen lol.

[warbandit66]

First of nobody said that Jackie's power was ever a threat, it's probably the weakest out of the fullbringers, it has a clear upper limit since well boots can only get so dirty. Are you all really going to act like Ginjou wasn't a shinigami at some point prior to the main story and that you saw him tank a Getsuga Tenshou?

[roggie]

As for Renji, why is he acting all high and mighty for hitting Jackie, he's like oh look at me I"ve had years of training but these last 17 months have been different, because I couldn't defeat Aizen I'm going to release all of my rage on you. It's like Renji has had years of training and while sure Ichigo was a human of immense power his circumstances are different from the FB since his spirit power was immense compared to a normal human.

These fights just don't seem enjoyable it just feels like they're all stroking they're ego while they bully humans with power, and we still have no idea why they even set up this plan. It's really hard to say oh yea shinigami kick their asses when we don't even know the main purpose for the Fullbrings existence. While sure Ginjo did say they were gonna kill Shishi cause of his ability, how is what Ginjo wanted to do any different from what the shinigami are doing now? Sure they were planning on killing him after this but right now the shinigami want to erase the existence of this fullbring group and the overall context of everything just feels wrong.

These fights would be more enjoyable if there was at least tension in them but it just feels like a way for the shinigami to stroke their ego and saying ya I did this for Aizen now I'm gonna kick the ass of a person who's 1/100 of his power and claim that with my newfound power I'd be able to defeat Aizen lol.

The classic "keeping up the power of the characters after some monstruous power up of the hero, making a life-time of training useless in front of this new (and brief) inspired stage".
But the alternative is even worse, dozens of wasted cool characters that now look useless and lame.

Don't it ever occur to the authors to make lighter power ups? ...

[Yami no Serena]

Renji "I've got this strong to fight Aizen!"
LOL WHAT?
I mean I knew Aizen would most likely escape from his prison, but now is too soon, don't you think?)))

[Zehahaha]

These last chapters are making the shinigami look like egotistical dicks lol. You have Byakuya calling Tsuki a wimp for his power yet he never had the courage to say the same thing to Aizen which was basically the same thing.

So you're basically saying that illusions are the same things as changing the freakin' past of somebody else (imagine Tsukishima stabbing you and making himself as your father) that's nothing compared to Aizen's powers at all.

To deceive the senses of somebody, is not the same thing to literally rewrite the past of somebody. So please, don't make Aizen looks like Tsukishima.

[BaddAzzKenpachi74]

Don't want to sound negative but this seems like a really boring chapter this week.

After last week I was really looking foward to Tsukishima vs Byakuya but apparently kubo has trolled us again.

Hopefully there is alot more to it then the spoilers let on.

[cracker]

The classic "keeping up the power of the characters after some monstruous power up of the hero, making a life-time of training useless in front of this new (and brief) inspired stage".
But the alternative is even worse, dozens of wasted cool characters that now look useless and lame.

Don't it ever occur to the authors to make lighter power ups? ...

In the shonen world after DBZ, especially mangas that are published in shonen jump and mangakas that cite Akira Toriyama as an influence...its hard not to thread DBZ-like waters when it comes to later power ups. It comes with the territory...

[Mucky_Pup]

Don't want to sound negative but this seems like a really boring chapter this week.

After last week I was really looking foward to Tsukishima vs Byakuya but apparently kubo has trolled us again.

Hopefully there is alot more to it then the spoilers let on.

I hear ya, but if they put all the anticipated fights right away, there would be no point in even showing the fodder fights.

I have gotten to a point, where I appreciate even the "Boreing" fights. After 4 or 5 chapters, I go back and read them all again in succession. I find even the lesser fights are enjoyable.

[sojithesoulja]

Calling it now. Tsuki is actually Aizen. He's deceiving them all for some reason.

[kkck]

These last chapters are making the shinigami look like egotistical dicks lol. You have Byakuya calling Tsuki a wimp for his power yet he never had the courage to say the same thing to Aizen which was basically the same thing, I guess he was never informed about how three captain attacked Hiyamori. And as for Byakuya's bankai I'd call that a pretty cheap trick raising up monstorous blades that can be condensed down to petal shaped blades to overwhelm a single foe with a single sword. Sure we saw Ichigo fend it off but honestly with an ability like that you can basically attack from all sides or even just stand still in a fight and let the dancing blade pedals do all the work.

As for Renji, why is he acting all high and mighty for hitting Jackie, he's like oh look at me I"ve had years of training but these last 17 months have been different, because I couldn't defeat Aizen I'm going to release all of my rage on you. It's like Renji has had years of training and while sure Ichigo was a human of immense power his circumstances are different from the FB since his spirit power was immense compared to a normal human.

These fights just don't seem enjoyable it just feels like they're all stroking they're ego while they bully humans with power, and we still have no idea why they even set up this plan. It's really hard to say oh yea shinigami kick their asses when we don't even know the main purpose for the Fullbrings existence. While sure Ginjo did say they were gonna kill Shishi cause of his ability, how is what Ginjo wanted to do any different from what the shinigami are doing now? Sure they were planning on killing him after this but right now the shinigami want to erase the existence of this fullbring group and the overall context of everything just feels wrong.

These fights would be more enjoyable if there was at least tension in them but it just feels like a way for the shinigami to stroke their ego and saying ya I did this for Aizen now I'm gonna kick the ass of a person who's 1/100 of his power and claim that with my newfound power I'd be able to defeat Aizen lol.

Byakuya never actually met with aizen..... Well, he did save rukia from him but given the developments there was never a chance for them to talk. Even then, it came to it aizen did take on the gotei 13 and the vizards. I don't think you can call bankai cheap, they are pretty much all that overpowered. Hitsugaya can throw chunks of heaven at you, soifon has a nuke, komamura has an armored giant.... Also, byakuya does go fighting melee with his senkei, that is about as straightforward as it gets.

[jaymizzo]

Calling it now. Tsuki is actually Aizen. He's deceiving them all for some reason.

That would be the biggest troll to date..

[meepers4982]

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[Raizen]

I am so glad that the FB are getting pwned like loserrrrsss.
Way to go shinigamis!

And even renji looks boss. Although some panels were confusing.
What is that in the lower right panel?
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/23163069/16

And what is going on here? Did renji break it with a punch?
http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/23163069/18