Air Gear 328 Discussion/ 329 Predictions

[emolibon]

ill have to repeat the question:

could you point me where in the manga IKKI SAID that kururu is the only tuner he accepts and recognizes for him???

see what i did there with IKKI and SAID, find me a place in the manga where IKKI said with his own voice what you said "in the end, ikki recognizes and accepts only kururu as his tuner"???

let me help you... there isnt any!!!

"he displays this with his actions and refusal of other tuners" curious thing that these "other tuners" are meaningless characters that appear once upon time in the manga... except for simca... who we never saw his answer for her question.

once he refuses ALL other characters tuning except kururu we can talk... but that makes me wonder... didnt he just accepted ringo as a tuner, or even better... didnt he ASKED her to tune him!?

edit: one more thing... because someone will definitly ask this... so is there any part in the manga where ikki SAID that he loves ringo??? the answer is NO... but thankfully he did someting just as meaningfull... after building up for literally hundreds of chapters how deep is the conection between tuner and raider (more deep than even love... oh great words) when the moment finally arrives ikki ASKED ringo to DO IT.

and kururu fans will say... but thats just because kururu couldnt... and by saying that you assume that if she was available he would chose her, even knowing that he never said with his own words that kururu is his official tuner.

and if thats not enough ill repost what i said before:

and yet he could have asked for ANY of the other girls there to tune him... and yet he already knows how ringo feels about him... and yet he knows what means to be tuned... and still he ASKED ringo, come on... to think theres no deep meaning there is a little bit to much.

and as i said before:

keep this going his a waste of time.

each are entitled to live their own dream, thankfully the manga is following its own path... you like it... or not!

have fun hoping and dreaming.

and damn what a freaking wall of text i just posted!!!

[Lectro Volpi]

"Viva nice couple" is such a lame line. It made me cringe.

Ah... Las tentaciones destructivas! (8) I will use it everytime I talk about pairings!

Page 2 is practically fanshipping crusade, here is a fact for you all: Hako rules today and tomorrow! (I know, but she is so lame! someone needs to love her!)

Not a surprise that everything went to the tuner affair, probably next week too.

The very respectable Mr. Carnedevil stated that Kilik was going to turn into a bitch when confronted with Rika. As possible as it is I want to cling to the "fact" that for a greater good he is willing to give her up (when she was kidnapped he did it).

[DragonOsman2]

Well, Ringo and Ikki are going to be a couple, so it's IkkixRingo. But still, since Ikki is still going to need Tuning afterwords, and Kururu is his Tuner, and was initially introduced to be his Tuner, it'll have to be her. And it may not have said that Ikki isn't a Gravity Child, but it also hasn't said that he is. Yet.

But my theory is actually that he's similar to Gazelle: some kind of a combination between a Gravity Child and a Brain Charger, with properties of both. He does seem to have a "Heart's Wing". And we know he has the "Hawk's Eye," (defining characteristic for the Sky King, which all Gravity Children have--yeah, I know, Gravity Children have it, so you could say this makes it likely that he's either a Gravity Child or that he's what I said he is. But the main abilities of the Gravity Children that make them Gravity Children, are the "Solid-sense type" and "Bio-mass Gyroscope;" we don't really know what they are, we've only been told what they're called).

Ikki never said that he doesn't want Kururu to ever be his Tuner. And it was also never said that she won't Tune him afterwords. Ringo isn't in Tool Toul To, and she's not even really a Tuner. Even for the Tuning process that's about to be done, I'm guessing Kururu will be helping Ringo from inside the supercomputer. Yayoi needed to explain to Buccha, Ringo, and the others what Kuu (Ikki's pet crow) was saying when it brought them all to that rock where Ikki does his AT practice. The one where Ringo and Ikki always went when they were kids. If Ringo really had what it takes to Tune someone on her own, she would've been able to understand Kuu, without Yayoi needing to tell her anything. Yayoi has what it takes to be a Tuner, since she Tuned Agito. Without having to wear an SC Suit or even needing to be connected to any kind of equipment.

Also, the Gravity Children don't need to be Tuned to any Regalia they wear because the Regalia were made specifically to be compatible with the Gravity Children's bodies and capabilities, which is what a Tuner is there for; they make the Regalia compatible with the "King"'s body and capabilities. The Tuner doesn't have to be a Gravity Child for the "King" to not need Tuning. The "King" him- or herself has to be a Gravity Child. But a Gravity Child can still apparently go "out of Tune;" in the flashback about the original Sleeping Forest, before the battle between Kilik's group and Sora's, Ine Makigami had to Tune Spitfire. And she actually was surprised as to why he needed Tuning, stating that, normally, Gravity Children shouldn't require Tuning. Nue requires Tuning because he doesn't use the Thunder Regalia core, and Ringo needs it because she uses a Sub-Regalia, or in other words, a Regalia that doesn't have a core.

And Suahnir and I aren't denying the IkkixRingo shipping in this chapter. We're only saying that since Ikki's Tuner is supposed to be Kururu, she'll Tune him the next time he needs it. I'm sticking with the possibility that Ikki only asked Ringo to Tune him because Kururu couldn't have done it, and also because he understands that Ringo is the next best thing as she understands him the most out of all the other Tuners present besides Kururu (Kururu's been listening to his "sound" for a long time now, she knows things about him that even Ringo doesn't know--like, for instance, that he doesn't ride on his ATs but actually "himself," and on the wind).

Edit: One post late.

@above post: Yeah, Hako does need to be loved. Too bad the one she loves is Ikki. As Agito said, to him, she isn't Simca, Ringo, or Kururu.

But what Omaha said there shouldn't be used as proof. It doesn't count.

But anyway, yeah about what you said regarding Rika vs. Kilik, I do hope he can set aside his feelings for her and just fight her. Even though the Gaia Road is apparently said to be weak against the Sonia Road.

[suarhnir]

oyos

i have no favoritism of any pairing that ikki has. i merely pointed out the fact that ikki is only asking ringo to tune him because kururu is not available. we as the readers see the possible pairings but i frankly don't care. all i am saying is that ikki and ringo are close because they grew up, kururu is the best tuner partner for ikki, and simca is the epitome of his desires both as a rider and a love interest (a good portion of his desire to take up a-ts was from watching simca ride).

@emolibon: i really don't understand why you are going ballistic over this whole thing. your an ikkixringo fan, ok fine, whatever. i gave evidence to back up my observations and stance, you have not really cited anything yourself other than what has been said by other people here... you are being very childish about all of this and your rant.

[emolibon]

"i gave evidence to back up my observations" what you pointed out is not evidence... because they show different things than the ones that you said... as for example:

in the end, ikki recognizes and accepts only kururu as his tuner where is the evidence in the manga for that??? im still waiting for that pic where ikki is saying that!

you have not really cited anything yourself really??? you did read what i posted right??? what about the whole chapter 327-328, the chapters that im actually talking about here SINCE my FIRST post. thats my evidence, the evidence im talking about since my FIRST post. come on friend at least read what i posted. (besides there are many others... like ikki and ringo under the starry sky at the classroom...).

i have no favoritism of any pairing that ikki has somehow i think that you DO have a favorite pair here... after all you already replied to TWO of my posts, and with the reply that you will be giving to this one i would say you already replied to THREE of my posts that focus solely on pairings. somehow i dont think you would give that much attention to something that you dont care, something that you dont have a "favoritism".

so yeah of course im a ringo fan, of course im happy with this development, and of course not everybody will be.. like you, like kururu fans.

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now putting all this crap about pairings behind... could someone tell me where i could read all air gear chapters with GOOD quality scans???

i ask this because the last two times that i read air gear since the beginning i read it at mangafox and mangareaders, and there are many chapters there with horrible quality... so is there any place out there with good quality scans from chapter 1 to the latest chapter???

[suarhnir]

so yeah of course im a ringo fan, of course im happy with this development, and of course not everybody will be.. like you, like kururu fans.

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now putting all this crap about pairings behind... could someone tell where i could read all air gear chapters with GOOD quality scans???

i ask this because the last two times that i read air gear since the beginning i read it at mangafox and mangareaders, and there are many chapters there with horrible quality... so is there any place out there with good quality scans from chapter 1 to the latest chapter???

oyos

i am not a fan of any pairing... in all honesty, it can really go any of three ways still. if you need another place to read that isn't mangafox or mangareaders, try mangahere. of course, you should really invest in just buying the tankouban... best quality source, supports the author/industry and all

[emolibon]

i would LOVE to buy tankouban, like air gear, berserk, blame... but here where i live there are none to buy and to import goes BEYOND expensive.

so im really thankfull for the groups out there releasing these scans, they do an amazing job and everybody with internet in any part of the world can appreciate these diferrent forms of storytelling.

oh and thanks for the tip about mangahere, will try it.

[DragonOsman2]

I'm with Suahnir on the pairings, I don't care either way (just as long as Ikki ends up one of the three--Kururu, Ringo, or Simca). O!G is also servicing fans of all three pairings in almost every other chapter. Some chapters support IkkixRingo, some support IkkixKururu, and some support IkkixSimca; we're about to have a Simca one coming up since Ikki and Simca have a date planned.

[suarhnir]

oyos

so on the topic of the storm regalia... we have fang+flame+thunder+rumble... it started with an original design that included no other regalia, then we get the rumble regalia thrown in there, and then suddenly we end up getting the thunder regalia and in a last minute decision, o!g also has the fang and flame regalia chucked into the mix. i can see why kururu has her hands full in just trying to come up with a design that will intergrate all 4 cores... i mean, you can't just stick a wheel on each shoe end (if you go by standard a-t design of two wheel shoes).

the only thing i can think of is basically having wheels that function closest to the fang regalia but are able to absorb stuff like the rumble regalia is able to do, and the thunder regalia is the 'energy source' of sorts that can be used in his attacks if needed, then we top it off with the flame regalia's complete access of all known tricks that have been recorded. ikki will be chucking windless graveyards right and left with all of this. oh i almost forgot, the storm regalia will have a cool transformation when activated and it will be similar to the wings that we saw when he had fought against ringo with the fake core... yeah, that's how i imagine it. (of course i find it absurd that we are putting so many cores together but i am pretty sure that o!g will at least give a pretty kickass activated look to the regalia)

[Ush]

Combining all the regalia's was kinda stupid, I was ok with rumble+thunder after the original design was ruined, because they sort of seemed like they would attribute with what a Storm type regalia is about.. then fang and flame, well that's going a bit overboard.

[sabret00the]

I'm still not over the fact that up until this point, Air Gear was all about team battles and in one swoop Oh!G removed all the players involvement in all the teams. We're now left with a boring manga centred around one hero, one villain and stop-gap. How shite and cliché has this manga become. The sad thing about it is, that I was growing to like Ikki more and more as each character around him grew and could stand up in there own right around his amazing haxed skills and just as everyone is a monster in there own right, suddenly Oh!G tears all of that down. I'm annoyed.

[DragonOsman2]

oyos

so on the topic of the storm regalia... we have fang+flame+thunder+rumble... it started with an original design that included no other regalia, then we get the rumble regalia thrown in there, and then suddenly we end up getting the thunder regalia and in a last minute decision, o!g also has the fang and flame regalia chucked into the mix. i can see why kururu has her hands full in just trying to come up with a design that will intergrate all 4 cores... i mean, you can't just stick a wheel on each shoe end (if you go by standard a-t design of two wheel shoes).

the only thing i can think of is basically having wheels that function closest to the fang regalia but are able to absorb stuff like the rumble regalia is able to do, and the thunder regalia is the 'energy source' of sorts that can be used in his attacks if needed, then we top it off with the flame regalia's complete access of all known tricks that have been recorded. ikki will be chucking windless graveyards right and left with all of this. oh i almost forgot, the storm regalia will have a cool transformation when activated and it will be similar to the wings that we saw when he had fought against ringo with the fake core... yeah, that's how i imagine it. (of course i find it absurd that we are putting so many cores together but i am pretty sure that o!g will at least give a pretty kickass activated look to the regalia)

Kururu made another Wind Regalia core to combine with the Rumble Regalia core, and then she got the other cores. And the Gem Regalia core is also being added in, so it's Gem, Flame, Fang, and Thunder, along with Wind and Rumble. I'm hoping that after the battle against Sora is done with, Ikki gives back the Gem, Flame, and Fang cores. Kilik should have the Gem core back, and Kazu and Agito, respectively, should take the Flame and Fang cores. Ikki should the Thunder core; Minami could create another one for the Thunder King, since he did make the one Ikki is using as an improved version of the one Blackburn used to use (that one was destroyed in the battle between Kilik and Sora's sides back then).

Well, other than that, except for the fact that I think Ikki can come up with Tricks that use aspects of all the Roads he's got the Regalia of, I do agree with you. The Gaia Road might harder to combine with, though.

@Ush: Yeah, it really has gone overboard. Fang is fine for making a "storm," but Flame and Gem? Come on now. This is not the Storm Regalia that they're making, anymore; it's an incomplete Sky Regalia (AT parts' version, as the actual Sky Regalia isn't AT parts--what I'm referring to is what Kilik talked about to Simca in the flashback about Sora's betrayal and all that, where he said that all Eight Roads and all Eight Regalia were once part of the same whole). Sky King's Sky Regalia for the Sky Road, anyone?

[warbandit66]

I'm still not over the fact that up until this point, Air Gear was all about team battles and in one swoop Oh!G removed all the players involvement in all the teams. We're now left with a boring manga centred around one hero, one villain and stop-gap. How shite and cliché has this manga become. The sad thing about it is, that I was growing to like Ikki more and more as each character around him grew and could stand up in there own right around his amazing haxed skills and just as everyone is a monster in there own right, suddenly Oh!G tears all of that down. I'm annoyed.

Yeah the team battles where great I was hoping that the fight against Old Sleeping Forest was a glimpse at the kind of devastating stopping power Kogarsamaru would have when they finally came up against Genesis. Unfortunately Sora doesn't have much in the way of team options at this point in the story.

[king_crimson-]

I'm still not over the fact that up until this point, Air Gear was all about team battles and in one swoop Oh!G removed all the players involvement in all the teams. We're now left with a boring manga centred around one hero, one villain and stop-gap. How shite and cliché has this manga become. The sad thing about it is, that I was growing to like Ikki more and more as each character around him grew and could stand up in there own right around his amazing haxed skills and just as everyone is a monster in there own right, suddenly Oh!G tears all of that down. I'm annoyed.

what i said to emolibon in my previous post applies here as well: It's OG, don't take this for granted before it actually happens...

[suarhnir]

Kururu made another Wind Regalia core to combine with the Rumble Regalia core, and then she got the other cores. And the Gem Regalia core is also being added in, so it's Gem, Flame, Fang, and Thunder, along with Wind and Rumble. I'm hoping that after the battle against Sora is done with, Ikki gives back the Gem, Flame, and Fang cores. Kilik should have the Gem core back, and Kazu and Agito, respectively, should take the Flame and Fang cores. Ikki should the Thunder core; Minami could create another one for the Thunder King, since he did make the one Ikki is using as an improved version of the one Blackburn used to use (that one was destroyed in the battle between Kilik and Sora's sides back then).

Well, other than that, except for the fact that I think Ikki can come up with Tricks that use aspects of all the Roads he's got the Regalia of, I do agree with you. The Gaia Road might harder to combine with, though.

@Ush: Yeah, it really has gone overboard. Fang is fine for making a "storm," but Flame and Gem? Come on now. This is not the Storm Regalia that they're making, anymore; it's an incomplete Sky Regalia (AT parts' version, as the actual Sky Regalia isn't AT parts--what I'm referring to is what Kilik talked about to Simca in the flashback about Sora's betrayal and all that, where he said that all Eight Roads and all Eight Regalia were once part of the same whole). Sky King's Sky Regalia for the Sky Road, anyone?

oyos

oh yeah, totally forgot about the gem regalia... man, that really will be all hax. so really it is all the core's minus wind and thorn. pledge doesn't really count since that was the overall support regalia and outside of merlin and kanon's offensive use of sound, there's no point in giving that ability to ikki.

the thorn tricks can be replicated via flame regalia and of course there was the base design of it being similar to the wind regalia given that kururu knew ikki was originally a wind road type. eww... yeah, i'm not liking this one bit now. and of course, we still have the loophole of kururu acting as chronos which may or may not make the storm regalia independent of the system and possibly be free from the control of the sky link (the sky regalia is key to taking control of sky link - in particular, chronos - which pretty much gives you control of all a-t technology).