One Piece 641 Discussion

[ErosVp]

If Noah is going to break the bubble, Caribou would have to go outside the bubble right? He wouldn't be able to do that without help, and logias bodies probably can't expand inside the water like Luffy's.... If Caribou tries to absorb the ark while inside the bubble, wouldn't it be trivial?

[BlackHair]

I honestly think there is a limit in how much he can "suck". Noha should be outside of his reach of abilities. Anyway wild prediction to begin with. I don't see that happening.

[redred]

lol if he absorbs Noah, he's going to crush the mermaids inside of him xD
I honestly just hope the bubble plan works, I don't want Coribou in the SH's good graces.

[Schabrak]

He mentioned himself to be a infinite swamp. so your arguments of it having a limit are simply wrong. Arguiing with manga facts will only lead to one defeat, the one from the fan not the author. Mistakes like the range of Hody's water arrow excluded.

[BlackHair]

I was rather referring to the size of Noha. Im sure he could be able to suck Noha if it was in pieces. Not that I have any facts supporting my idea just my experience of reading, which deal with these kind of abilities. After all it would be way to hax (my actual point) if there is truly no limit.

But lets not forget, his abilities weren't fully explained in detail. And it wouldn't be the first time if new facts would affect/influence first given facts. Anyway still guessing, not that I have any manga support (at this point).



Im still with my predictions:

1. Luffy fails and Shira calls the Seakings just before collision.
2. A vulcano breaks out and everyone dies.

[pizzaslicepwnu]

He mentioned himself to be a infinite swamp. so your arguments of it having a limit are simply wrong. Arguiing with manga facts will only lead to one defeat, the one from the fan not the author. Mistakes like the range of Hody's water arrow excluded.

Not trying to be snide or anything ,but luffy is a rubber man but he cant stretch infinately so caribu should also have a limit to his "swallowing" ability

[elitefox]

I've been wondering this for now.... Will Hodi go to prison in FI island or to a marine prison? FI island seems to be part of the WG, but we haven't seen one marine, there neither a base. Marines helped Alabasta with Croco, shouldn't being allied with them grant some help in a situation like this? I don't think the royal family would want Hodi in their prison or even in their country...

If it is under the marine jurisdiction then there is no need for a Yonkou to give protection to it

[hokageji]

Not trying to be snide or anything ,but luffy is a rubber man but he cant stretch infinately so caribu should also have a limit to his "swallowing" ability

Caribou claimed that his swamp is bottomless, which would mean endless and hence infinite. Besides, Caribou is Logia type while Luffy is Paramecia type, unfair comparison...

[elitefox]

not to die? -.- if caribo wants to survive he has to stop noah,absorbing it,obviously. it wouldn't make him a hero who cares to save people but just a bastard who thinks just about himself and who wants to survive no matter what(he even prayed the SH to believe that he was just a slave of his own crew...).

A nice twist, then the kidnapped mermaids came loose then he is a villain again hahaha

[Nonlife]

As far as Caribou is concerned, I think he'll return when Big Mam makes her first appearance. (She'll probably mistake him as one of the accomplices who destroyed her candy/steroid supplement factory.) Besides, wouldn't his DF powers subside in the ocean water?

Huuuhhhh, I just want to see MORE of the other Strawhats' fights. (This last chapter was just talk, talk, talk. Hopefully, the real truth behind Hodi's past is worth the wait with this week's chapter.)

[mr.danly]

seriously, I want to see more actual fights! I'm actually kind of hoping for a change of scenery to the other SH's battles, Zoro vs. Hyouzou should be a great one, as should the Sanjinbei combo. So far Luffy vs. Hodi has bored me, it's just a repetition of Luffy kicking the s**t out of Hodi, then Hodi trying to use the water to his advantage and using underhanded tactics to try and beat him. And failing.

[chitgoks]

this sounds interesting because he may just be boasting about it being infinite unless he had proven before he can swallow something as big as noah.

if he had no prior experience swallowing something as big as noah, then good luck. we'll see what happens

[Schabrak]

Remember Aokiji, had he any problems stopping the two walls of water in the war? Yeah he is experienced, but just a comparison to for the power of a logia. Blackbeard on the other hand can only suck things into him for a certain time. ... that is rather a point against me, but his logia power are hax anyway, so there had to be something negetive to his fruit or rather positive for his enemies.^^

The comparison to paramecia is just false, as they aren't limited to a human form.

Once Noah has it's film of bubble, Caribou could be thrown into it to stop it. And it's easier to get into without the doublebubblebarrier. If he fails, we still have Shirahoshi to fullfil the legend.

[Ninja_Pirate]

For Caribou.. i would say that "the devil fruit is as powerful as its user" and caribou is just a fodder who pee his pants for every small thing happens to him... as we have seen on SH ship/// so yeah he can't just swallow a whole damn ship the size of an island.... and moreover the purpose (making the situation tense) of the ship falling will be lost. And even hody brags a lot about being most powerful ... is he ??? (manga fact )

For Noah.// I am predicting that the ship will get the coating but since it will not help the ship to float .. either it will keep falling or it will be hold by kraken.. wadatsumi ... sea kings(unlikely) ... and then will be kept held for another two chapters just for the VDD to wake up and say.. heya .. i am back..

To think of it... one weakling like VDD (ass i see him in the flashback that how he started ...) has moved the ship .. which is a size of an island.. and waysss stronger characters than VDD are struggling to hold it without breaking... That s what i like about oda.. he make things interesting like that... it is almost like how the ability of Mr. 3 came handy at Impel down and croc quoted "I wonder how some abilities can come handy"

[Schabrak]

Hody is strong, just not as strong as the hero who trained for two whole years non-stop. Better question, could you name a stronger Fishmen/Mermen excluding Jinbe, Neptune[without backproblems] or Namur from Whitebeards crew?

Caribou reacted normal, surrounded by a group of people whom he may had a chance against in a 1on1 match, but as a group posed a much bigger threat.

We don't know if VdD had really moved Noah at all or just needed to touch it with his hands and let it go to start the effect of his powers.

I'm not a fan of any of these three, but there's no need to badmouth them more than needed. From Luffys perspective everyone is below his current level of strength. Some have moaned about Hody having doubled strength in the water, but isn't it the most normal thing to fight on the most advantageous battlefield?[remember Croc or Enel] One could argue that fighting in air is unfavourable for all citizens of FI too. Luffy will win in the end, to overcome obstacles whatsoever is just a display of his hardships and journey to become the King of Pirates.