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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    I've always thought of One Piece being the event or place when/where everything UNITES or REUNITES - or, should we say - where everything becomes in "ONE PIECE" :

    1) SANJI'S ALL BLUE : will be, for already mentioned reasons, the place where all seas becomes "one piece" ;

    2) ROBIN'S BLANK VOID : all fragments of history represented by the several poneglyphs scattered around the world will become "one", the Rio Poneglyph, thus reunifying world history in "one piece" ;

    3) NAMI'S MAP OF THE WORLD : in this place, which I personally believe it to be Raftel, all the different maps of the seas will become one virtually making all the world as "one" ;

    4) CHOPPER'S MEDICINE : secrets revealed by the discovery or revealed due, as a consequence, the discovery of One Piece ( IMHO probably about Devil's fruit true nature ) will make Chopper able to come up with a cure to all diseases and illnesses ( IMHO even about how to do away with Devil's fruit effects, eventually putting down the chain of hatred and wars that evil use of their powers has been causing )

    5) LUFFY'S PIRATE KING : being the king commonly means to make everyone stand below your power as well as to rule everything under the symbol through which that power is carried. Do you get where I'm going? Everything will be under Strawhat's jolly roger, everything virtually will become "one piece". This would also mean the defeat of WG and the ultimate union of all countries of the world into that legendary and anciently united kingdom.

    6) BROOK'S FORMER CREW : will finally return in "one piece" by "playing" (...albeit through a Tone Dial) their last song in presence of Laboon ;

    7) ZORO'S STRONGEST SWORDSMAN : Same as Luffy, but with sword techniques ;

    8) FRANKY ALMIGHTY SHIP : With the world now reunited as one, Franky will finally have built the almighty ship he has been dreaming of making since his very childhood ;

    9?) ...even JINBEI'S FISHMAN RACE FINALLY IN GOOD TERMS WITH HUMAN'S would fit in this theory ( due to all humans and fishmen now being as "one" race )

    ...wondering about all these saxon genitiveS? Well :

    10) Imho Raftel will be the place where everyone's and every strawhat's dream will be fullfilled and will become ONE PIECE.

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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    The post above me is genius.
    But I don't think nami's exact dream is to draw the map of the world but to actually see the entire world and then draw it but maybe its just me.
    Nor do I think zoro's dream have anything to do with one piece.
    Sanji, luffy and robin would all make sense. And so does your 10 point.
    An interesting theory, maybe what roger really wanted was to unite the world or to form them together as..one piece.

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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    Agreed, that post is Genius ... I have never thought of One Piece Like that, About Nami I think there is no difference Between what you said and what @Ginopastino said (Both ideas end up in drawing the ultimate map) Zorro once made a promise to Luffy to Never Lose a sword fight again in order to help Luffy become the Pirate King (Not in these words nor that is his only wish but still) And don't forget that reaching Raftel would mean beating all kind of swordsman including the strongest nowadays (Mihawk) So dream accomplished
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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    If we consider that, then One Piece is Thousand Sunny.
    The Sky is pouring
    The wind is blowing
    The sea looks red,
    a surging sea of flames
    looks like the entrance to hell
    'Perfect', the captain said.

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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    I don't think @Ginopastino meant that One Piece is something material something you actually can touch, I totally understand what you are trying to say ... but in the end it's just a theory.

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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    I think One Piece is the complete knowledge of the Void Century and ancient weapons. The final poneglyph and complete history is hidden at Raftel, who ever can sail the entire Grand Line and reach Raftel will be strong enough to challenge the World Government, and thus the Pirate King. I can not think of anything else that would so terrify the World Government that they would not only execute Roger but also extinguish his entire bloodline. That would also explain why Roger turned himself in. Rather than be captured with the secrets of a weapon he was to sick to wield, he turned himself in and kept history hidden until someone else could reach Raftel and find the One Piece.

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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    I think that ONe Piece will be something leading the Straw Hats to some kind of final showdown. Up till now everything is leading towards a battle of justice against the marines. The revolutionary army is a party that didn't do a lot by now but I am sure that it will have a great influence and the marines will lose in the end because of their freaking way of calling their doing justice. So One Piece maybe something that uses the power of unleashed priacy (by Roger) in lead of the Straw Hats to free the world.

    Just my thought because the positions are more or less switched in one piece. Marines are mainly bad and all good guys of the marines leave them or fight against their way of justice and the rising pirates except for blackbeard have a much better understanding of justice.

    Well who knows. We'll see

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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    I also think that reaching Raftel and becoming Pirate King will not be the end of the manga. The climactic arc will likely be a confrontation between the Pirate King, his allies and the World Government and her allies. Whatever the One Piece is it has a connection to the Void Century and will allow the Pirate King to fight on equal terms with the Government and Marine. Not necessarily a weapon, but possibly some knowledge that could turn the citizens against the government, or allow the Pirate King to understand some vulnerability.

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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    I have a few theories about what one piece is:
    Raftel is/was part of the ancient kingdom and is one piece.
    It's nothing but the adventure that the pirates go through.
    The true history.
    Friendship. (just like in Mojacko, if anyone knows that)

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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Calijnaar View Post
    I think that ONe Piece will be something leading the Straw Hats to some kind of final showdown. Up till now everything is leading towards a battle of justice against the marines. The revolutionary army is a party that didn't do a lot by now but I am sure that it will have a great influence and the marines will lose in the end because of their freaking way of calling their doing justice. So One Piece maybe something that uses the power of unleashed priacy (by Roger) in lead of the Straw Hats to free the world.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiten View Post
    I also think that reaching Raftel and becoming Pirate King will not be the end of the manga. The climactic arc will likely be a confrontation between the Pirate King, his allies and the World Government and her allies. Whatever the One Piece is it has a connection to the Void Century and will allow the Pirate King to fight on equal terms with the Government and Marine. Not necessarily a weapon, but possibly some knowledge that could turn the citizens against the government, or allow the Pirate King to understand some vulnerability.
    I agree with both of you. I made a prediction here about One Piece being the very Ancient Kingdom itself. I don't think One Piece will be found in Raftel. I think Raftel simply holds the Rio Poneglyph which was said to contain the true historical text, including details of the Ancient Kingdom (One Piece) and possibly its real location. I believe the concept could be something like The Lost City of Atlantis, something that nobody knows exists and cannot be found through ordinary means. In any case, the manga constitutes themes much larger than a mere treasure hunt, so it's unlikely that it will end upon finding the 'treasure'. With the destruction of the Ancient Kingdom 800 years ago, the story essentially began with the world government and it will probably end with them.
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    Re: What is One Piece?!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaizokuou View Post
    I've always found the kanji for One Piece interesting. It's "ひとつなぎの大秘宝", Hitotsunagi no Daihihō. Daihihō simply means Great Hidden Treasure, but it's the Hitotsunagi that's interesting. I've been told by a Japanese person that it means, like, a ring, or a necklace, "hito" being "one" and "tsunagi" being "connection", so like, one connection. So maybe it's something that's supposed to connect all living things together or connect the history of the world together into an understandable circle. But since "hitotsunagi" is written in hiragana, "hito" could also mean "people", so it could also mean (in that wonderful way that Japanese can be so ambiguous) the Great Hidden Treasure that Connects People Together... kana?

    I believe there was also an interview once done by Oda-sensei where he said one of his goals in making One Piece was to make a manga with the greatest ending ever, so I somehow doubt that One Piece is simply some trick by Roger or "friendship" or "adventure". But I don't remember where I read that so I'm sorry if that's not even true.

    Personally, I believe One Piece is some piece of information or some tool. I've always thot it was way too convenient that there JUST happens to be the Calm Belt and the Grand Line and the Red Line, etc., just to make this long race to Raftel, so I'm wondering if maybe the World Government made the world this way to keep people away. Or when they destroyed whatever the lost country was, the world was turned into this shape, waiting for someone to reclaim One Piece and join the world back together into a whole ocean and planet. But if that's the case, I don't know why Roger didn't do it, but I still like the sound of it.
    If what you said is true about "ひとつなぎの大秘宝", then that support my idea.
    I have this idea for a long time. It is, One Piece is or refer to the long lost World History.
    Cause the History is the thing that bond people together(in many way).
    The history always wrote by the winner. Even in the real world, as you grow up,
    you will find out that there are always a fake information or reason that add to make your side or your country look reasonable to do a terrible things. In One Piece case, it this world government. When they think they can control the whole world then one man appear.

    When Roger set sail he didn't aim to be a Pirate King at all, he just want to change the world(one piece vol.61, page can't remember). Finally, Roger reached Raftle where the true History that must not be tell was hidden. The government felt fear of him, so they called him Pirate King to make people fear him, spot him. Whatever they did to Roger, it just calls a justice that should lay upon the criminal.

    (This kind of concept just make me think about World War II. When the US bombed Japan with Nuclear)

    The moment before Roger died is the moment that he reached his goal, to change the world, finally he turns the world up side down.

    Also, I don't think the world government is a bad thing, there must be a reason behind their action. One piece always shows that nothing good or bad. Just live on, go on to the future you desire, and you have to be strong to survive and achieve it.

    (PS. Sorry for my poor English)
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    Re: What is One Piece?!?!

    The Ancient Kingdom was deposed by the ancestors of the Tenryuubito. They founded the World Government, the World Government exists to represent the will of the Tenryuubito. As a class apart they don't seem to have any interest in the dirty work of governing but the institutions are in place to protect their needs and world view above those of anyone else. While not every one involved in the institution is evil, the World Government as an institution is hopelessly corrupt and intolerant, reflecting the morals of the Tenryuubito. Those of high moral standards are likely marginalized, while men of questionable standing such as Spandam rise to positions of authority. If not evil, the institution of the World Government is an antagonist, probably the most important antagonist, in One Piece.

    Quote Originally Posted by blamagenkind View Post
    I have a few theories about what one piece is:
    Raftel is/was part of the ancient kingdom and is one piece.
    It's nothing but the adventure that the pirates go through.
    The true history.
    Friendship. (just like in Mojacko, if anyone knows that)
    I agree, I think Raftel was a location of importance in the Ancient Kingdom. Being part of the Ancient Kingdom would not make Raftel unique: Shandora, Skypeia's city of gold, was also part of the Ancient Kingdom. Raftel could have been a more important location though, a political or religious center. What is likely important, as Fried said, is that Raftel contains the Rio Poneglyph. Rogers found the Rio Poneglyph and this is clearly the reason not only he was executed but his entire blood line extinguished. Ace was not killed because Roger was the Pirate King, he was killed because Roger knew the true history. Knowing the true history made Roger the most dangerous man in the world and meant everyone connected with him had to be killed.

    I don't think one piece will be a moral lesson. The journey to find the One Piece will teach Luffy and crew the importance of friendship, individuality, tolerance, and being true to yourself. One Piece itself will also represent those qualities. Defeating the World Government will represent individuality and tolerance defeating intolerance and oppression. But One Piece will be an object and one that leads to the downfall of the World Government.

    Quote Originally Posted by Freid View Post
    I agree with both of you. I made a prediction here about One Piece being the very Ancient Kingdom itself. I don't think One Piece will be found in Raftel. I think Raftel simply holds the Rio Poneglyph which was said to contain the true historical text, including details of the Ancient Kingdom (One Piece) and possibly its real location. I believe the concept could be something like The Lost City of Atlantis, something that nobody knows exists and cannot be found through ordinary means. In any case, the manga constitutes themes much larger than a mere treasure hunt, so it's unlikely that it will end upon finding the 'treasure'. With the destruction of the Ancient Kingdom 800 years ago, the story essentially began with the world government and it will probably end with them.
    Could not have said it better myself. The true history is Rogers treasure, by dying he protected the location of the Rio Poneglyph from the World Government he left his treasure intact. What really interests me is why no one has been able to find Raftel yet, not after 20 years. While not easy, navigating the Grand Line is relatively straight forward: use the log pose and follow one of seven routes to Sabaody and the Red Line. If navigating the New World were so simple than surely pirates as strong as Shanks and White Beard would have reached Raftel by now. But what if reading the Poneglyphs is the only path to Raftel? One has to follow clues written by the ancients from one stone to the next, finally leading to Raftel. We already know that is what Roger did. It is entirely possible that navigating the New World, finding the One Piece, and learning the true history is wholly dependent on being able to read the ancient language.

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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    The theories are endless, but i agree one piece is liking nothing at all. I'm sure Roger would know that to reach the end of the grand line, the crew would have to be one capable of understanding the true history of the void century and that any pirates dream would be achieved to be able to get there, fulfilling themselves and taking away any reason to need a monetary or physical treasure. Treasures have already been elaborated deeply in the story, so it's definitely not a physical thing that somehow has a great value. We already know SHs (except maybe nami ) wouldn't care about gold, jewels, etc type treasure.

    The theory about the dreams is the best i've heard, and probably the most likely. The way whitebeard says one piece does exist, he probably understands what it is by that. Since he no longer was looking for it, it also means that perhaps his goals and dreams are fulfilled by ruling as a king, building a family pirate crew, and nurturing the new era to find theirs, or probably something connected with a D. We don't really know his past so its hard to say for sure what his motives and intents were.

    There's a lot of ways it can go, and its definitely more a symbol than an actual treasure, and probably something that only a D could have use for.

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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    It is possible but "One Piece was in you the whole time" would be a let down after reading such a long title I don't think One Piece will be treasure, money, booze, or women but I do think Roger left something substantive to the next generation than a life lesson. The lesson will be learned on the way but I can not imagine that self fulfillment is all that will be found when the Strawhats reach Raftel.

    My theory is that it is not that White Beard stopped looking for Raftel but that he could not find it. Unless it is later revealed that there are others who can read the Ancient Language, the Strawhats are the only crew that can find Raftel anyway.

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    Re: What do you think One piece is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiten View Post
    My theory is that it is not that White Beard stopped looking for Raftel but that he could not find it. Unless it is later revealed that there are others who can read the Ancient Language, the Strawhats are the only crew that can find Raftel anyway.
    Whitebeard wasn't interested in finding the way to Raftel:
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