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I thought I should add something:
Judging by how much people pay attention to reviews here on mangahelpers, I'd say the less the better.
You can't have too many. A set of brains would outperform just one.Quote:
Order is not a problem if all of them are awesome. I'd wanna read it to the letter if its funny and intriguingQuote:
Diversification and creativity is a must here.Quote:
I'd say about 300 words max broken down to smaller paragraphs.Quote:
You can't have enough of those. The more the better. And while you're at it, make them interesting.Quote:
Every single section should be as unique and awesome as the previous one. There is your link: "awesome"Quote:
Make them proofread or edit. Pay attention to the style and the flow of the sentences.Quote:
Oh yeah. Its better to choose chapter that are already epic and possibly cliffhangers since people are heated up and looking for second opinions on the chapter. We'll be there!
This is just my humble opinion!
I had similiar thoughts. Like mentioned above, a review has three basic sections. Summary, Overview and Predictions. Fine, but let's not forget your strong point - Art Corner . That's already 4. And of course Bonus section. I didn't recruit Writers/Artists for nothing. I'd say that these 5 are must-have sections, that every JR will feature. The only thing that's left are "Small Summary", "Character Spotlight" and "P.S.". Personally I can live without Small Summary and P.S., but I think we should make Character Spotlight a permanent section too.
And I like the idea about the editor making transitions. We'll have to discuss that more detailed later. However, I'm against this /ReviewerA-stuff. I think that will only interupt the "flow" of the review, the reader will constantly see /ReviewerX; /ReviewerU. We can make a credits section, where we can list down who wrote what if we want to.
Basically I agree with what you said about the Editor, however there are a few things, like the posting of the review, that have to be discussed more detailed.
Still, I think, that learning-by-watching is not the same as learning-by-doing. I plan on giving them respective sections in our JR from the get-go, not in 10 weeks, when they've lost all interest in this Alliance. Though, this topic needs to be discussed more detailed <----- I'm writing this sentence too often
C6. I have a big plan about this one. Will post it later
Sorry, bro, I'll answer your post later. I'm kinda busy atm
Last edited by alphabeta; October 06, 2011 at 12:08 AM.
About sections in the review, I'm quite confused of the review having 'short summary' and 'long summary'. I think 'long summary' is not needed. One reason has been stated before as readers might have read that chapter or series so we don't need to go in depth about that. A review's purpose, as long as I'm concerned, is to pique interest of those who haven't read the chapter or series yet. Instead, we can spare more time and ideas at another sections which could show the strong and weak points.
One question: are we specific of doing chapters, or would we do series as well? How are we going to divide it? I think it would be a great idea to have two different teams who would cover chapters and series, so we can give more input to the community. It can get unfair if one member sticks in chapters or series team only, so a change of team members once in a while can be put in between.
At this moment I can't write or read too much. I'll post more later, as waiting for my question to be answered before actually giving comments to the questions given at the post alpha made (so that I won't speak out of the context :P).
Last edited by phio_chan; October 06, 2011 at 08:04 AM.
ALPHA IN DA HOUSE~
Boys and girls, I am proud to announce that as of now RaveDragon is also part of the Reviewer Alliance. Alongside yuki and phio she'll be writing in the Bonus Section.
- C1 How do we choose the reviewers who are responsible for the respective sections
You should let the Reviewers pick which section they want to review, with little to no moderation as that would be restricting on reviewing something they see themselves best fit for.
- C6 How do we choose the manga we are going to review?
It should be about the personal prefrence on the reviewer as if they were told to go review something they don't like, well I don't see it coming out as good as it should have.
C2 Who is the boss in a team and responsible for everything?
We should give everyone a chance to decide which manga does he like the most, we can compromise as long as there is no one left with a manga he does not like. That person should boss the series and part of the review he likes the most.
C3 What to do with the newcomers and how to involve them in our review?
Spread the word! By this I mean spread the reviewing! The more series we review the more members we need.
Guys, I appreciate your effort when answering all those questions, but please restraing from answering all the questions at the same time. I want you all to focus first on the Format section. Once that is finished we'll move on. However if Member A starts randomly picking questions from the Content Section, Member B answer 1 post from Member A and answers 3 questions from the Organazition section it'll result in chaos. So, let's finish the Format section first. Thanks. /Alpha
Side question to this:
Can we individually review the series that we will rule out here? I mean are we all going to do everything together or we can start something individually if it did not get the thumbs up here? Still being with the group for other projects, of course.
Then again I didn't join as a Reviewer only as a Bonus Section writer :P
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OH Fairy Tail got into a good arc lately it seems it ould be good to review that =D One piece is on the roll too
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It's not necessary for people to have ideas on the format...maybe some don't have ideas, yet they might have suggestions for different areas
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1. Introduction and credits
2. Small summary
3. Plot - how does the plot develop and how is the chapter integrated into the overall plot of the manga
4. Characters - analyzing character development and character relations...I also love Jammin's character spotlight, so I think that should be added as well
5. Art corner - this is as important as all the others, since mangas are a visual form of art
6. Bonus w/e - I don't think this is very important, but it can be added for a lighter and friendlier feel
7. Final thoughts and predictions
Maximum amount of people should be 2 for each section in my opinion...though I don't think there's a need for maximum number of people, because every reviewer can have ideas concerning different sections of the review...more POVs will make the review a better one...
I think minimum number is more important, and I would stress that at least 4 people should participate, because there is a lot to write
Fix format is better for the start, until everyone gets used to the format, and to writing, then when teamwork is good, the sections can become more flexible
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The length of the sections will automatically differ with each review, because not all chapter are the same...sometimes character development will be more proeminent, sometimes there will be just fights and awesome art etc...but I think a core theme of the chapter should be established each time, and we should build our thoughts around that core theme
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Nobody is the boss.Quote:
Everybody is free to add suggestions, we will discuss them, make some compromises, and then go ahead with what we decided.
As for responsibility: the only responsibility is to write quality stuff, when we work on the review.
Every new member should express their wishes, concerning the way they want to contribute...Quote:
Yes...we will create separate threads for the reviews that we will work upon.Quote:
People will post their parts, and I or the person who will start the thread will organize them according to the format we will decide upon...however that should be done only when there's a consent, in PM, either a note somewhere that the particular paragraph is final...after we put everything together, we will have the chance to fine tune...ideas or suggestions, even questions, regarding fine tuning and editing can be posted in that particular thread or PMs if you like...
Not even mentioning the fact that maybe some ideas expressed in one section could give a new point of view and ideas for writers of different sections
If there are smaller teams on one section, then the members of that specific team should decide on how will they edit their own content...but again, the specific review thread is the perfect place to do it, even in separate posts if there's the need for clarity....Quote:
We should suggest ideas...but not just one...more ideas the better, and the ones that will overlap would get to be chosen...but keep an eye out for potential plot twists and interesting developments in every manga you read, and feel free to suggest them...Quote:
I think we should incorporate different demographics and types...like adding a seinen or josei into the mix from time to time, not even mentioning manhwas, webtoons etc....for example if we decide and wrap up big 3 with OP next time we do a review, then I think we should switch to a seinen title, like Gantz maybe...then we could get back and write two shounen reviews like FT or Kenichi...then a shoujo or josei....you understand my point.
Also I think there's no restriction for doing two joint reviews a time, so we can always split up in two teams, and work on different stuff.
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Impressions are pretty much the same thing as the Final thoughts, and we can add the Impressions of each individual reviewer if he or she wants it...
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Everyone can pretty much write what they want, as many have said before, we should brainstorm then decide...the teams, if there will be teams, should be flexible...not just because one might not like a certain pick, but maybe because someone doesn't read it...Quote:
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Seeing what other people posted, I think this format is pretty much acceptable
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Last edited by benelori; October 08, 2011 at 01:00 PM.
I'll read bene's post more detailed later. But here's another suggestion for the format. Or actually for the Long Summary section, or however we will call it later. Basically we choose two people for it and they both get special roles. One is a super mega tard, and the other is a super mega hater. You get it. One is only praising all the good things in this chapter/arc while the other does nothing but bashing. That's to make the review more lively...