Hunter x Hunter Chapter 319 Discussion

[Uriel]

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[Jack Van Burace]

@ Uriel: I've got spoilers! It's early spoiler week (saturday release), so all spoilers will come out today!

Forgot if I should post it here and get it moved or send to you via PM. So I'll post it here with spoiler tags:

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《全职猎人HUNTERxHUNTER》No.319

319　抽選
319 - Lotery

十二支ん全員集合からスタート。一人だけ遅れてくる
Starts with the zodiac group. Only one person comes late.

ミザイムストム　丑　男
Mizaimusutomu: Ox man
ピヨン　卯　女
Pyon: Hare woman
ゲル　蛇　女
Gel: Snake woman
ギンタ　羊
Ginta: Sheep
クルック　酉
Crooked: Rooster
サイユウ　サル
Sayuu: Monkey
ジン　亥　（例外）
Gin: Boar (exception) (WHAT, GIN?!?!?!?!)
ボトバイ　辰　男
Bobotai: Dragon
カンザイ　寅　男
Trustees: Tiger Man
チードル　戌　女
Cheadle: Dog woman
サッチョウ　午
Satchou: Horse
遅刻してきて　パリストン　子　（例外）
The child comes late from Paristown (exception)
ハンター十二支ん　会長がその実力を認めた１２人

子　次期会長選挙についての議会を始めます。
遅れて来たことに　卯　寅が文句
子　ぼく副会長だし～～～～

子　僕が会長に立候補しますから選挙やめませんか？
皆イラっとする

子　ネテロ前会長は強すぎました。弱者の気持ちがわからないのです。それはみなさんも同じです
ボクなら弱者の痛みは解る　そういう会長になります。

丑　お前が副会長になって３年　消息不明のハンター18人
子　僕が会長になればきっと減ると思う

ジン　立候補するよ　おれがジジイの意志を継ぐ

みんな、子にもジンにも入れたくない。。。

子　ジンさんの息子さん大変らしいですね？
ジン　らしいな
子　ボクお見舞いにいこうかな
ジン　おう喜ぶんじゃねーか？
子　あははは　わかんないんじゃないかなあ？品詞の重体だって聞きましたよ　やっぱり
やｍけときましょうか？　行って死んでたら無駄骨ですもんね？
ジン　行けよ　ゴンは死なねえ

子　眼が笑ってない

くじ引きってことで。会長を決めることに。

選ばれたのは　ジン

てとこで終わり★


--
以下情報師補充
パリストン見た目王子様キラキラ系だよｗ

わかりづらいね。本当申し訳ない。
ジンが提案した、ルールで投票をする！ってことで決まったの。

ビーンズ　選ばれたのは　ジンさんです。　ルール１　ハンター全員が候補者かつ投票者であること！

で。終わり。
まだ会長が誰とか決まってない。

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情報師對例外的解釋

わかりずらくてごめんね。
ジン　（例外）
パリストン　（例外）　ってのは

涙ぐましい努力をして十二支んにならなかった例外もいるってこと。

マンガの最初に書いてあるんだ

翻譯轉自百度


十二支全员**后开始。有一人遅到了

ミザイムストム　丑　男
ピヨン　卯　女
ゲル　蛇　女
ギンタ　羊
クルック　酉
サイユウ　サル
ジン　亥　（例外）
ボトバイ　辰　男
カンザイ　寅　男
チードル　戌　女
サッチョウ　午
（名字神马不翻译了哈。。。）

遅到的是　パリストン　子　（例外）

猎人十二支是由会长认可了其实力的１２人

子　下任会长选举会议开始。
有人迟到了好不好　卯和寅抱怨道
子　我可是副会长啊～～～～

子　我来当会长候补还需要选举吗？

大家显得紧张起来

子　尼特罗会长很强。所以不会体谅弱者的心情。这一点你们大家都一样。 我的话就可以理解弱者的痛苦，我会成为那样的会长。

丑　你当副会长三年，下落不明的猎人就有18人哦。
子　我当了会长就不会那样了。

金　我也候选，我要继承老头子的遗志。

众人不管子和金的阵营都没有加入

子　金你儿子没事哦？
金　大概。
子　要我去探望么？
金　哦，真令人高兴不是么？
子　啊哈哈哈，理解能力真差？听话要听出重点啊，果然。理解不？去探望的话他会尸骨无存哦？
金　小杰不会死的。

子　眼睛没有在笑呢……

于是投票决定了会长。

被选上的是，金。


2 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい：2011/10/04(火) 22:28:22.24 ID:uftacftE0
976 ：名無しさんの次レスにご期待下さい：2011/10/04(火) 20:45:35.63 ID:ZRlfcJQD0
わかりづらいとこ書き直してみた。
こんな感じ？

十二支ん全員集合からスタート。一人だけ遅れてくる

ハンター十二支ん　会長がその実力を認めた１２人
涙ぐましい努力をして十二支んになった者達だが、才能のみで選ばれた例外もいる

ミザイムストム　丑　男
ピヨン　卯　女
ゲル　蛇　女
ギンタ　羊
クルック　酉
サイユウ　サル
ジン　亥　（例外）
ボトバイ　辰　男
カンザイ　寅　男
チードル　戌　女
サッチョウ　午
遅刻　パリストン　子　（例外）　見た目王子様キラキラ系


子　次期会長選挙についての議会を始めます。
遅れて来たことに　卯　寅が文句
子　ぼく副会長だし～～～～
子　僕が会長に立候補しますから選挙やめませんか？
皆イラっとする

子　ネテロ前会長は強すぎました。弱者の気持ちがわからないのです。それはみなさんも同じです
ボクなら弱者の痛みは解る　そういう会長になります。

丑　お前が副会長になって３年　消息不明のハンター18人
子　僕が会長になればきっと減ると思う
ジン　立候補するよ　おれがジジイの意志を継ぐ

みんな、子にもジンにも入れたくない。。。

子　ジンさんの息子さん大変らしいですね？
ジン　らしいな
子　ボクお見舞いにいこうかな
ジン　おう喜ぶんじゃねーか？
子　あははは　わかんないんじゃないかなあ？瀕死の重体だって聞きましたよ。
　　やっぱりやめときましょうか？　行って死んでたら無駄骨ですもんね？
ジン　行けよ　ゴンは死なねえ
子　眼が笑ってない

会長を決める方法を決めることに。
？　紙に　全員投票かつ　投票率95％以上の大前提をみたし
　　最善と思う方法を書いてもらいます　第三者にその中から無作為に選んでもらう。

引くのは　ビーンズ

ビーンズ　発表する。選ばれたのはジンさんです！！　
ビーンズ　選ばれたのは　ジンさん（の案）です。　ルール１　ハンター全員が候補者かつ投票者であること！
～続く

[Phantron]

That info sounds totally fake. It'd mean the presidental election arc is literally over in one week.

Highlights: VP is one of the Zodiac, and so was Gin. Gin said he's going to become the president. They vote. Gin won.

I really don't see how that can possibly happen...

[Uriel]

Also that denies the 95% of attendance of Hunters voting, so it's obviously fake. But well, I like to read fake spoilers to see how the fandom is doing xD (Even if I DON'T like spoilers)

[Phantron]

The info also suggests the Zodiac are something like the 12 strongest Hunter in the world entrusted by Netero, which totally makes no sense that they never was mentioned anywhere in the Ant arc. So this means Hunter's Association must go like this:

Netero: Alright, I"m going on a mission against multiple beings of incomprehensible power. Who's with me? Anybody? Hello?
(crickets chirping)
Netero: Um... so does anyone want to be the president?
(everyone shows up)

[luffy_D_monkey]

Also one thing that i have been thining

it was said that gin is very powerful hunter
den y was he not concerned about chimra ants?
they were going after whole human population

it is an anomaly in HxH
i lke dis manga but there are some loopholes in the last arc.

[Phantron]

Also one thing that i have been thining

it was said that gin is very powerful hunter
den y was he not concerned about chimra ants?
they were going after whole human population

it is an anomaly in HxH
i lke dis manga but there are some loopholes in the last arc.

Gin is a man who abandoned his own son for his freedom, so I can see he stay away from this because he didn't want to lose his freedom. It'd make no sense if he came back and say, "You know, maybe being the President isn't so bad after all", though.

It's possible that the point is Hunters are mostly a bunch of hypocrites, though I think the Hunters are supposed to be the good guys (overall).

[mrsticky005]

Images found here



I dunno if that is Ging but it looks like him.

[Uriel]

The info also suggests the Zodiac are something like the 12 strongest Hunter in the world entrusted by Netero, which totally makes no sense that they never was mentioned anywhere in the Ant arc.

Why not? Netero went first to check up the situation with two strong hunters. Then He just came up with an strategy that was successful.

I don't see why He needed them, more so if He was planning to use them for this particular event.

And that is not Gin, at least for me. Such a bad look for someone who was always shown smiling.

[devilitachi]

Lol it's Ging :|

[Phantron]

In case that info is real, here's the translation (of the Chinese part, anyway, but looks pretty thorough)

The Zodiac arrive, but the Rat is missing. Gin is the Dragon.

(Rat arrives)
Rat: Okay, time to elect the next president.
two of the guys complain he (Rat) is late.
Rat: But I'm the VP!

Rat: I think my name speaks for itself as a candidate for president.
Tensions flare.

Rat: President Netero is strong, so he doesn't appreciate the feelings of the weak. You guys are like that too. But I can understand the pain of the weak. I will become a president who cares for those who are weak.

Ox: 18 Hunters are MIA in the 3 years you became the VP!
Rat: This won't happen if I'm the president!

Gin: Put me in as a candidate too. I'll carry out the old man's will.

Nobody join either Rat or Gin's side.

Rat: So is your son doing okay?
Gin: Probably.
Rat: Should I visit him?
Gin: I'm flattered.
Rat: It'd be a shame if something happened to your son.
Gin: Gon's not going to die.

Rat: The eyes aren't laughing.

They vote. Gin won.

---------- Post added at 12:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:34 PM ----------

Why not? Netero went first to check up the situation with two strong hunters. Then He just came up with an strategy that was successful.

I don't see why He needed them, more so if He was planning to use them for this particular event.

And that is not Gin, at least for me. Such a bad look for someone who was always shown smiling.

The Rose is a forbidden weapon that is clearly not supposed to be possessed by Hunter's Association let alone used. Netero didn't just found some Roses from the Hunter's Association warehouse. Someone up there had to slip him those weapons.

There was never any guaranteed that the usage of Rose could be covered up. Netero could've died the moment he jumped in the palace, and then the Rose explosion would occur in the palace, and not every citizen has hypnotized at this point, so if any survived or even just got a phone call off the whole world would know what happened. If people found out this stuff, the entire association could be ruined. The entire association might be dissolved and hunted down. Not only is the survival of humanity at stake, so was the integrity of the Hunter's Association. Why would Netero gamble with the reputation of the entire organization if he could've found more people to participate? I realize it's top secret, but if these Zodiac show up for the presidency then they can at least be contacted. Netero can easily say "I need all the help I get or there might not be a Hunter's Association left tomorrow". I guess it's possible all the Zodiac just called his bluff and let him die, but that'd mean these guys are pretty much terrible people who shouldn't be trusted with anything.

[perroloco]

It is Gin, it even says his name ジン sure the spoiler provider could have altered the text to say Gin.. But I don't think he/she would troll us by change the name, and it does look like him.. Let's just all accept its Gin LOL.
As for why he is not shown smiling, I am not sure he would be able to smile with the current condition of his son, yeah he has never shown he cared much about Gon but to actually smile in a situation like this.. I don't think he could LOL. Also I don't remember the relation between Gin and Netero (was it explained in the manga?) but I wouldn't be surprised if Netero was like Gin's master or something along the lines.

Also the second spoilers say Gin is the Dragon, that's not true the Dragon is.. well the Dragon looking guy LOL, the one with two flame-like piggy-tails on its hair... And chinese-dragon like mustache.. was so obvious lol.

[Jack Van Burace]

On my spoiler the trans sez the Boar-guy is named Gin. Probably him.

Gin = Silver, and it is Gon's father's name.

Anyways, now we know who is what in the zodiac. I think that according to the images, mine's the correct one, as rat's missing and probably comes from Paristown. I've translated a part of it.


EDIT: Just in case nobody noticed, the sitting places on the table are in order of the signs.

Right to left (manga reading direction): ox, tiger, rabbit, dragon, snake, horse, sheep, monkey, rooster, dog, boar and rat's the end/beginning. Makes sense since the cicle only starts whith the rat, and they can only start when he arrives.

[perroloco]

Thanks I didn't notice since I know nothing of the Chinese Zodiac, on the other hand had Togashi used the Greek Zodiac It would remind me of Saint Seiya too much LOL

[Phantron]

My bad on the Boar/Dragon, I couldn't find a complete list of all the Zodiac hours and was alt-tabing between the limited stuff I can find.

---------- Post added at 01:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:23 PM ----------

Edit: There seems to be a confusion as to what Gin won. He won something, but we don't know if he won the presidency, or just prevented VP from outright taking over the presidency at this point (which would be a victory too consider VP's political power). Seems like this part is giving the translators a hard time. It might be purposely vague at this point?

I gathered the parts translators agreed on from this chapter so far:

VP thinks a vote is unnecessary for his candidacy
Gin wants to run as a candidate
Nobody supported either of them (out of the Zodiac).
The Zodiac apparently resolved this by drawing out of a hat.
Gin definitely won this part.

It's not clear what Gin actually won. Some says this means he's the only candidate, while other says he merely stopped the VP's plan from having no competition.