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i debated this issue many chapters ago when the inorganic net battle happened. i believe that o!g has made a crappy inconsistency but that's just me.
flashback and some inorganic net views of kiric with his regalia:
the flashbacks we know for sure that kiric possessed the regalia and in all of those shots, it is a back wheel design.
however, between chapters during the inorganic net battle, the regalia's design changes:
so basing the regalia on it's placement isn't really evident of it being a true regalia. heck, dontores and yoshi both had the regalia during their duration as king but both had vastly different designs.
on the summary provided by megakim: is head wrapped guy a pervert? well, it is o!g so i can't be that surprised but if he actually said that, then wow... though i'm wondering if any of that summary is partial author ad lib.
Yeah, well, in the back-wheels design, the core is the same as the one shown now. That's the Hardest Apostollica. Maybe Ume made him a replica recently, or maybe he already had one lying around. But it's true, what Carnevil said, that the rest of the AT world still considers Kilik as the true Gem King even though the actual core was in Nike's possession this whole time. Though, Simca referred to him as the "former" Gem King of the Jade Road (don't know why she called Kilik's Road the Jade Road, though, when that's actually Gaia Road plus Wing Road).
But yeah, O!G's been changing the design . . . what the heck is up with that?
Japanese Raw Scan.
Thanks. Now, if only we could read Japanese. I really do want to know what's being said.
How the hell was that bandaged dude using Gem vibrations, even though the ATs he's wearing aren't the Gem Regalia?
Um . . . every Gravity Child who was in the "Tower" had his/her own copy of each of the Eight Regalia, since Minami said that the ATs the First Gen. Gravity Children were wearing inside the "Tower" are now known as "Regalia". It's just that the Ring Road Riders' "Regalia" aren't ATs, though they did have ATs; their Regalia are in the form of a cross. But was the bandage dude part of the First Generation, or the Second?
And if you're referring to Nike using the Gem vibrations, that was different; with the Gem Regalia, you're still able to move out of that spot right after causing those vibrations, but without the Regalia, you'd be glued to that spot. Read back to when Aeon used it against Nike; Nike was surprised at him "being able to accomplish that normally takes so much skill". Buccha doing it could be referenced, though, I guess, though I don't fully understand how he did it.
actually, if we are basing it off of a diagram of the roads, there are 8 that branch from 1 source and each of the 8 has 2 roads that branch off of it. that really only gives us 24 but it could be argued that there are 3 variant regalias of the same road. so i don't think it's really having 3 of the same core, but 3 of the same concept but different applications of cores.
So Sonia Road can create thorns (in this case, arrow) that is 'stab' damage. So they are capable to pierce through air and gem barrier in exchange with low stamina, weaker-than-fang damage, and user's body shredding characteristics.
Wing and Over Road create 'impact' damage. Fang Road create 'slash' damage.
Maybe I've played Monster Hunter too much. lol
I'm not sure if OG will make SF win this fight. I really don't want to have Kilik and Ringo become last boss for Kokara (Yes, both are awesome but...) SoraxSkyRegalia v.s. KokaraxSFxAll-Others-Rider would be more suitable for final epic battle in my opinion.
Would it be a surprise to anybody if Sora escapes figuring he can't win then returns during the battle with SF and Koga to take out the winner since both sides would be exhausted and give himself the advantage.
so summary from the japanese raws:
-minami explains that what keeps people from flying on their own is their 'hearts'
-tanaka is mc'ing and mentions how sf vs. genesis is the last match of the 1st tier match as well as the biggest show.
-we once again see the aftermath of the match so far (even seeing the head wrapped guy too this time). sora goads kiric to fighting seriously, but kiric retorts with sora's cowardice to use rika while she is pregnant (since sora was likely banking on them not wanting to actually harm rika due to her baby).
-tanaka is ranting at the turn of events, wondering if this is really what sf is really made of. meanwhile, minami gets one of the ttt members filming to zoom in on rika (she is activating the regalia).
-inside the tv van, ami sees the close up on the thorn regalia and confirms that it is the original. minami says that it is version 10.7, the latest, greatest and lightest to date. it takes on a shape that is pretty much a bow.
-rika uses the regalia to shoot down kiric. kiric is hit and pleads with rika, but she continues to attack him. kiric tries to use an infinite atmosphere trick, gaia road "infinity stratum" gravito suffocate (not sure on the 'suffocate' part)
-sora makes a wind barrier to stop kiric. tanaka doesn't quite know what's going on and invites minami to give in his observations. minami explains that kiric was using his gem vibrations to create a solid mass of air to throw down at sora and rika but sora effectively blocked it. kiric's a-ts crack.
-sora comments that he was happy to fly with kiric, but this place is their last stop. rika comments about how the happy blue bird is searching for is at the place where grav kids were born. kiric wonders if rika has remembered, however she rubs it in his face about how kiric always wanted the love she and sora share with one another.
-sora says kiric should be happy if he at least gets a chance to grope one of rika's breasts with his own hand to which rika kinda offers. suddenly she is wrapped in the straps of the wrap that head wrap guy wears.
-'kiric' disappears and it turns out that head wrapped guy was charading as kiric, and he says it was the rising road's alpha electromagnetic waves and this shocks sora. nina commends on a job well done to head wrapped guy who is named onibasu (a prickly water lily that is also called the 'devil lotus'). nina then uses her trick, over road's phased array optics (lit: phase conjugation optic/light variation... but after much research, i think the goal was phased array optics since it seems to make sense with what happens next).
-tanaka is confused and wonders why there's two thunder kings and what happened to kiric. onibasu complains at why he's the one who had to get hurt and mikan says that his 'net' (thunder road) is able to stop the thorns without injury. kiric then pulls off the wrappings on his face and reveals himself (he was disguised as onibasu). kiric explains that they weren't trying to not hurt rika but that they were trying to apprehend 'the thorn queen who possesses the regalia' without harm, just to be able to beat sora.
-with all the pieces (all the main roads gathered), ume launches out some equipment and they activate the sky regalia. sora is shocked that the sky regalia is being used. kiric gets a bit emo over the bond he once shared with sora as friends but now they are enemies.
yay, we now know the last grav kid's name in sf - onibasu. on the note of them aiming at capturing rika... the way kiric phrased it makes it sound like the main key piece to really use the sky regalia was the thorn regalia. maybe it's just the gathering of all 8 roads or sub road that branches from the main 8 (since om is clearly the 'lather road' but what if that happens to be a branch of the flame road? kinda opposite but at the same time it has the same 'shapeless' form like flame) but that kiric would actually say 'thorn queen in possession of the regalia' instead of 'the sonia road' makes me wonder if they need the 8 roads' regalia (also iffy on the pledge regalia, since it was first possessed by ine who was not a grav kid - but her dad was one of the researchers and may have given it to her) to also use the sky regalia. or maybe they got the 'key' from the suitcase to unlock chronos, but in order to actually utilize the sky regalia, they need the regalias. as for the lack of gem regalia, what are the chances that they have one of the other regalias that followed the gaia road or one of its sub roads?
Onibasu, that's a fucking badass name. He's just shot to the top of my list as one of my favorite characters right behind Kiric. So Sora was using Rika to defeat Kiric and now Kiric is using Rika to defeat Sora. That's hilarious if Sora hadn't have brought Rika they wouldn't have been able to us the Sky Regalia.
Thanks for summary. ^^
Maybe Gabishi is categorized in Flame Road since his technique rely on heat too. Just like Mikan, since he's not speed-type like other flame king (as seen when he fought Aeon) but focus more on aggressive attack power.
So that put Om in Fang Road just like Orca, Genesis's Fang King, who use (more powerful) water-based attack as well. Fang is based on air vibration wave. So maybe Lather Road use the same principle but input vibration in water instead. Yes, maybe.
If that is it then..
Wing Road - Mikan
Sonia Road - Rika
Gaia Road - Kilik
Flame Road - Gabishi
Fang Road - Om
Over Road - Nina
Rising Road - Onibasu
Ring Road - Ume
p.s. Not sure if Over road > Gem as well since Kazu use this road to absorb Nike's vibration. I don't know
p.s.2 Fang > Thorn ???
Last edited by Exis10; October 07, 2011 at 01:22 AM.
Gabishi's Road's Infinity Atmosphere was said to be similar to that of the Fang. Agito said it when they first met in the "Tower". And it actually is similar to that of the Fang (Fang requires a 0-100-0 "run," and Gabishi also moves his leg extremely fast before he stops it and then fires out a Light-elemental attack), while the Road seems to be based off of the Bloody Road, except Gabishi targets just the face whereas Bloody Road Riders target the entire body.
Also, as far as the diagram that was shown when Ringo and Kanon were talking about the Regalia while inside "Tower" is concerned, I was under the impression that the Regalia that were shown branching off were the Sub-Regalia, the fakes that don't have cores. Kanon also referred to the Regalia used by Sleeping Forest as being Sub-Regalia, meaning that they all use Sub-Regalia, and he also said that the Hurricane Road would be the "genuine Ninth Path of the Regalia". If all 28 Gravity Children had their own separate Regalia while they were in the Tower, then Kanon wouldn't have called the Hurricane Road the Ninth Road since the other Gravity Children's Road's would already have covered that number and more, up to 28. And Alexander had a replica of the Flame Regalia, since he was Genesis' Flame King. Gabishi is the Horn King, while Orca, even while having an "exploding Fang," is still the Bloody Road's Fang King and has an actual Fang Regalia. All that's needed to produce a Fang is a 0-100-0 "run," and the Fang Regalia's main components are also made only to allow the Fang King to do that more easily--it was stated in the Behemoth battle, if you guys care to look. The Fang Regalia has a special part in it that allows the user to come to a complete stop whenever he/she wants to after having accelerated full-speed.
And if a complete set of Regalia are needed in one spot to activate the Sky Regalia, then I don't get how they can do that while having Sub-Regalia, which are fakes since they don't have the main component that Ringo said makes a Regalia, a Regalia--the "core". All of Sleeping Forest currently uses Sub-Regalia. Except for maybe Kilik, if I'm right about him having gotten a real Gem Regalia somehow.
Last edited by DragonOsman2; October 07, 2011 at 05:24 AM.