Air Gear 330 Discussion/ 331 Predictions

[Lectro Volpi]

As I launched a bunch of possible outcomes in my last post I can´t claim the "illusion" thing... ah, I even deleted a post about the Rising Road illusion ability.

But rejoice! trolled and all but I expect SF to be defeated with glory.

[Atobe the king]

Good shit O!G, didn't see that coming for some reason.

not enough rika fanservice

[DragonOsman2]

Sorry, but what manga are you reading? In the manga we're reading, the main character is Ikki. [I know I shouldn't feed a troll, but still.]

And I know that Hardest Apostollica is the core. I'm just surprised that even though the members of the current team Sleeping Forest have resolved never to use real Regalia again, Kilik is actually using a real Regalia now.

But yeah, most likely, something will happen to make Sleeping Forest lose.

[Carnevil]

And I know that Hardest Apostollica is the core. I'm just surprised that even though the members of the current team Sleeping Forest have resolved never to use real Regalia again, Kilik is actually using a real Regalia now.

But yeah, most likely, something will happen to make Sleeping Forest lose.

Kiric isn't stupid, he wouldn't go into battle against Sora without regalia, and if those are true regalia. Then he knows sub-regalia wouldn't stand up to his level of power and skill. SF has stated they don't have what it takes to make true regalia which is why Ringo uses a sub-regalia. So the real question is. if Kiric's gem regalia are true regalia, who made them for him?

[DragonOsman2]

Of course it's a true Regalia. Only the real Gem Regalia has those two wheels on top, right? That's the Gem Regalia's core.

And Ringo said that everyone in Sleeping Forest uses Sub-Regalia. Kilik must have some sort of reason why he decided to use a real Regalia. And yeah, I know he isn't stupid, but I did think he was too stubborn for this.

[Carnevil]

Looking at the chapter again Rika was the only one able to hit fake Kiric. Sora tried and got frozen to the ground, without Rika Sora couldn't even hit a fake. So Rika is going to have to get free if Sora hopes to win.

[dirtywork]

Kirik would never kill Rika and Sora in front face and SF didn't make us upset trick was cool

[suarhnir]

Of course it's a true Regalia. Only the real Gem Regalia has those two wheels on top, right? That's the Gem Regalia's core.

And Ringo said that everyone in Sleeping Forest uses Sub-Regalia. Kilik must have some sort of reason why he decided to use a real Regalia. And yeah, I know he isn't stupid, but I did think he was too stubborn for this.

oyos

just having the wheel on top like nike doesn't make it the gem regalia... as the flashback with gazelle proved, the thorn chain wasn't the 'core' since she removed them in her escape with kaito and after she kills herself, sora takes her a-t shoes because they held the core of the thorn regalia. we also have ringo who we know has a sub-regalia and it possesses the same thorn chain that we are familiar with for the thorn regalia but it still lacked the core. so the likely case we have is kiric had designed an a-t that functions the same way as the gem regalia but it lacks the proper core and will likely break with overuse.

i don't really read chinese but the more complex kanji is usually the same between chinese and japanese, and ami (the short haired ttt member who is good at hacking) sees a close up of the regalia that rika is using and confirms that it is the real thorn regalia (version 10.7 according to minami)... so does that mean that nike was busy reclaiming the thorn regalia from rika prior to arriving in the wake of the old sf vs. new sf battle? it would make sense since nike is a sneak up ambush type of guy so he could have managed to take rika by surprise and get the regalia without her seeing him. this also fits with his lack of appearance until after sora was beaten - nike is blindly devoted enough to not sit around and watch sora get that hurt, so him not being around at all until after the fact makes sense.

it does seem like sora's finally actively participating as we see his pants ripped up as he starts to use his regalia (since last chapter and early pages of this chapter, his pants and normal shoes were in untattered condition). the thorn regalia's active transformed appearance isn't that surprising... i mean, we had gawain many chapters ago with his sword for a-ts so at that point, i was ready for any sort of possible shape of a regalia. what i also wanted to comment on was how much of a trooper the head wrapped guy is to take those hits from rika... though i wonder if nina was more or less absorbing shots for him so that he won't really get beaten down.

the best part, sf activates the sky regalia which surprises the crap out of sora... i guess kiric was serious enough to take on sora that he would use the sky regalia if needed. guess this will give us a glimpse of just how much the sky regalia is capable of.

[Carnevil]

I have a feeling OG is going to have Kiric pussy out on killing Sora so we won't see the Sky Regalia trick. It'll be the dumbest fucking way for SF to lose Kiric being a little bitch. It love Kiric's character but if he's going to turn into an emo fucktard in front of a mass murderer then that's going to be lame.

[DragonOsman2]

oyos

just having the wheel on top like nike doesn't make it the gem regalia... as the flashback with gazelle proved, the thorn chain wasn't the 'core' since she removed them in her escape with kaito and after she kills herself, sora takes her a-t shoes because they held the core of the thorn regalia. we also have ringo who we know has a sub-regalia and it possesses the same thorn chain that we are familiar with for the thorn regalia but it still lacked the core. so the likely case we have is kiric had designed an a-t that functions the same way as the gem regalia but it lacks the proper core and will likely break with overuse.

i don't really read chinese but the more complex kanji is usually the same between chinese and japanese, and ami (the short haired ttt member who is good at hacking) sees a close up of the regalia that rika is using and confirms that it is the real thorn regalia (version 10.7 according to minami)... so does that mean that nike was busy reclaiming the thorn regalia from rika prior to arriving in the wake of the old sf vs. new sf battle? it would make sense since nike is a sneak up ambush type of guy so he could have managed to take rika by surprise and get the regalia without her seeing him. this also fits with his lack of appearance until after sora was beaten - nike is blindly devoted enough to not sit around and watch sora get that hurt, so him not being around at all until after the fact makes sense.

it does seem like sora's finally actively participating as we see his pants ripped up as he starts to use his regalia (since last chapter and early pages of this chapter, his pants and normal shoes were in untattered condition). the thorn regalia's active transformed appearance isn't that surprising... i mean, we had gawain many chapters ago with his sword for a-ts so at that point, i was ready for any sort of possible shape of a regalia. what i also wanted to comment on was how much of a trooper the head wrapped guy is to take those hits from rika... though i wonder if nina was more or less absorbing shots for him so that he won't really get beaten down.

the best part, sf activates the sky regalia which surprises the crap out of sora... i guess kiric was serious enough to take on sora that he would use the sky regalia if needed. guess this will give us a glimpse of just how much the sky regalia is capable of.

I know that stuff about the Thorn Regalia . . . also, when Kilik was shown in that illusion, he didn't have wheels on top of his ATs. And if you recall that panel that has Nike smiling after having taken the Gem Regalia core from Kilik, the wheels shown in his hands in that image are the ones that go on top of the ATs when one wears the real Gem Regalia. So yeah, the Regalia Kilik is wearing, I'm still believing it's the real Gem Regalia until it's stated otherwise.

@Carnevil: With the Sky Regalia, you can use Tricks from any and all of the Eight Roads. So there's really no specific Sky Regalia Trick . . . or at least I don't think there is. [I wonder if Kilik will be able to use the "Null Wind" Trick by accessing the data on Ikki's Memory Stick.]

[Broken_Wing]

I know that stuff about the Thorn Regalia . . . also, when Kilik was shown in that illusion, he didn't have wheels on top of his ATs. And if you recall that panel that has Nike smiling after having taken the Gem Regalia core from Kilik, the wheels shown in his hands in that image are the ones that go on top of the ATs when one wears the real Gem Regalia. So yeah, the Regalia Kilik is wearing, I'm still believing it's the real Gem Regalia until it's stated.

Do you even know what the core looks like though?

Obviously the core was inside the regalia component when in Nike hands but time and again there have been crazy working ATs that don't have cores at all. Just because Kiric has another component on top of his AT what makes you think he's got another core in there?

Didnt they say Nike was superior to Kiric who doesn't have a proper regalias?

[DragonOsman2]

Look at this page: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/air_gear/v33/c328/16.html; One of the wheels from the Gem Regalia core are shown in there. You should know just from looking which one it is. Now, compare that to the wheels on top of Kilik's ATs. The wheels we saw Nike taking from Kilik were definitely the Hardest Apostollica. Kilik didn't have the Gem Regalia core until now, probably because by now, Ume or someone else must have made him another pair of wheels to replace the ones Nike stole. The component on the ATs in and of itself is the Hardest Apostollica. The wheels drop to the sides of the ATs while on the ground to cause tremors and earthquakes when the Gem King wants them to, remember? That's how they create the Gem Vibrations.

Oh and, yeah; damn, guys, we've seen the Hardest Apostollica more than enough times already; here's another pic (look at the first panel): http://www.mangafox.com/manga/air_gear/v33/c326/13.html

[Broken_Wing]

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/air_gear/v32/c315/2.html

"In terms of pure attack power, it obviously surpasses Kiric who lost his regalia..."

Unless its only within Sleeping Forest, the rest of the AT world does not consider Kiric as possessing a bona fide Regalia Core.

Haku made a visually exact Wind Regalia that could preform Infinity Atmospheres from the Wind Road that Kururu couldnt even tell was inferior:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/air_gear/v16/c139/6.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/air_gear/v16/c139/7.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/air_gear/v16/c139/8.html

But in the end was seen as totally fake:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/air_gear/v16/c140/10.html

Unless O!G goes on to say explicitly Kiric had another regalia core forged from scratch, the current story is implying to the readers that Kiric is not wearing top end equipment.

[Carnevil]

Funny thing is riders without a core aren't considered kings like Ohama said to Ringo when they were discussing the thorn regalia. But the entire Air Gear world has always called Kiric the Gem King. The only people who have ever referred to Nike as the Gem King is himself and a few other members of Genesis. But even members of Genesis have referred to Kiric as the Gem King. So core or not Kiric is still respected as the true Gem King and feared for his abilities. So who cares if he's wearing a true regalia or a sub-regalia Kiric is still the man.

[megakim]

OG never ceases to tease. Here's a summary/partial trans of the chinese scan

Professor Minami talks about how it's not people's body that can't fly, rather it's their "heart" that can't. The announcer is hyping SF vs Genesis.
Sora: Isn't this a little too one sided, baka. Are you worried about something? You've been holding a grudge against her for a while, just fight her.
Kilik: Sora, how low can u get...she's pregnant asshole.
People are surprised, "this is the power of the tower's guardian?" SEKIHA TENKYOU KEN (G Gundam reference, intended or not...probably intended considering OG referenced Gundam in the past). People are surprised at Rika's AT since it's the original thorn regalia ver 10.7, the newest, strongest, lightest, Prof Minami's "masterpiece"
Rika: Kilik...you are the 2nd person in love with me *shoots
Killik: rika...the rika I know wouldn't rank people...wake up
Rika: I'll defeat you and prove that the road of the number 1 lover (Sora) is correct
Kilik asks her to stop one more time and tries to a trick: Gaia Road: Infinite Gaia which sora stops with his wind wall. Prof minami explains that Kilik was trying to solidify the air which sora just countered. Sora thanks Kilik since he was the only person who could fly to the same goal but that this was the last stop. The goal btw is the gravity children's birthplace.
Kilik: please...before I die...I want to grope Rika's breasts
The whole point of this was to capture the Thorn without harming Rika. It's time...ALL REGALIA FINAL FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSHION. Sora no regalia, kido! Kilik says that he and Sora flew to the same height, but he can't recognize him as friend or foe.
When the 8 roads collide, AT GOES TO AN UNKNOWN DIMENSION