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Thread: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    I would say, yes. He was prepared to kill only the Spiders, so I don't think it's something to simply make a mistake about.

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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    I agree that it would probably have killed him since the pledge is something deeply personal that he made to and with himself.

    Now what would happen if he used it on Hisoka who he thought was a Spider? We know that Kurapica's judgement chain didn't frag Kuroro when he spoke to Hisoka once he knew he was a fake Spider (or perhaps the removal of the tatoo could be considered quitting - i don't know). I think it makes sense for Kurapica's nen to be otherwise omniscient so long as the conditions are not knowingly breached by Kurapica himself, whether he is factually correct or not.

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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    If he is convinced someone is a Spider( he saw a tatoo, everything corresponds) but is not, he shouldn't die IMO, unless his Nen is living.
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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    Can't be helped. That's how dangerous these risks are. And this is why it's so strong.

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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    It's actually not quite as dangerous as you make it out to be. Imagine if Kurapica's powers couldn't be used AT ALL against non-spiders. Kurapica's master remarked that such a restriction would be pretty flimsy but in effect it's no different from the restriction as it is. In fact, its worse because it would actually preclude Kurapica from using his powers entirely.

    imo the restrictions don't adequately justify his power and emperor time sure as hell shouldn't have given him the capability of tanking uvo's punches.

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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    I don't get what you mean?

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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    Kurapica's master remarked that the restriction of limiting chain jail's use to spiders only is pretty weak. The restriction that Kurapica came up with is that if he used chain jail on anyone other than a Spider, he would die. But the two are pretty much the same thing, except the former restriction is arguably even stricter because it literally stops him from using chain jail on anyone full stop whereas the current incarnation of chain jail allows him to use it on non-spiders - it just kills him if he chooses to do so.

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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    They aren't two separate oaths, they're the same actually. When his master told him it was weak, he told him that that was merely the pre-condition. The pledge itself is to die when used on anyone else.

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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    Yes but the pledge could equally have been: the ability fails to activate against non-spiders and it would have been just as restrictive if not more.

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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    Quote Originally Posted by Demonspeed View Post
    I know that's silly and that there not even one in a million chance that it would happen but what would happen if:

    -Kurapika uses Chain Jail on an innocent and is convinced that he is a Spider?
    -Kurapika uses randomly Chain Jail on a Spider without knowing he is one? (For example, would have CJ worked if he hadn't seen Uvo's tattoo?)
    Even if he was convinced he was one he would probably still die bcuz they really weren't (like if he used it on Hisoka even though he was just a fake spider, he'd probably still die). Either that or it just won't stop their nen and then he will realize they aren't a spider and his judgement chain around his heart would crush it.

    If he would randomly do it for some reason and it turns out they are he'd be ok.
    The only reason he would die from someone not being a spider is bcuz of his conviction to die if he uses chain jail on someone who isn't a spider. If he lives after chain jailing someone who isn't a spider then that means his conviction wasn't really strong enough and chain jail would cease to work on anybody bcuz he doesn't truly believe in the condition that makes it work in the first place. Really the only way he'd die if he didn't know you were a spider were if he didn't know or ask and couldn't find out. Which would never happen bcuz he has the judgement chain to force you into to tellling him if you're a spider or not. Anyway the spiders won't hide themselves from him anyway so what does it matter.
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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    Since it's really hard to transmute his aura into electricity how much time do you think it would take to transmute his aura into light? Do you think there is someone who can do it?
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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    Quote Originally Posted by Demonspeed View Post
    Since it's really hard to transmute his aura into electricity how much time do you think it would take to transmute his aura into light? Do you think there is someone who can do it?
    Plot overall makes that jump. I guess it's not about talent, but some great background to explain it. After all, Light is just a form of wave energy and not that different from electricity.
    The Sky is pouring
    The wind is blowing
    The sea looks red,
    a surging sea of flames
    looks like the entrance to hell
    'Perfect', the captain said.

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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    Quote Originally Posted by Demonspeed View Post
    Since it's really hard to transmute his aura into electricity how much time do you think it would take to transmute his aura into light? Do you think there is someone who can do it?
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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    ^ Yes but Meruem is not comparable to the others. And he could use it only to read minds and to move fast while activating his En. Being able to use light attacks would be really OP.
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    Re: About Aura Combat & How Nen Works

    It depends on what you do with the light.

    If you need to illuminate an area that's easy. If you want to shoot laser beams at people, that's probably impossible.

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