Who's the #1 "Bad Girl" ???

[HegemonKhan]

Who's the #1 "Bad Girl" ??? and if you want, please post why, and discuss.

01. Riful
02. Priscilla
03. Ophelia
04. Miata
05. Roxanne
06. Deneve
07. Helen
08. Teresa
09. Rafaela
10. Agatha
11. Rachel
12. Galatea
13. Raftela
14. Flora
15. Clare

[Khorr]

I'm torn between Riful, Ophelia and Roxanne. They're all 'bad' but in a different way. In the end, I can only pick one so I piked Riful cause she can still act so cute while having Dauf rip your limbs off. Real baddies never do the dirty work themselves when they don't have to.

[wickedsmile]

At this point, I will have to choose Roxanne as the the most evil warrior that we have seen to date. Ophelia and Riful deserve strong consideration but both had motives and reasoning that may make their actions understandable. Riful began conscribing warriors into her service, in order to fight Isley. So she had self preservation in mind, when she began her onslaught. Ophelia was simply deranged and emotionally scarred. Seeing her brother disemboweled by Priscilla caused her mental instability. I don't think we could condone Riful's actions but we can certainly understand the motive of "self preservation." This resides within all of us. We can pitty Ophelia's plight as she, like many other individuals, became another one of the Organization's victims.

We don't have much on Roxanne, apart from that she's devious and sadistic. She'll love you one moment and lop of your head shortly after. I found especially cruel that she purposely caused the long and painful demise of another warrior, to undermine Cassandra. It was't enough to take the #1 spot, it was necessary to utterly anihilate Cassandra mentally, emotionally and physically. She simply could have challenge for the position and ascended without shedding any blood, especially that of your own comrade.

[HegemonKhan]

One thing we do need to consider with Roxanne, we do NOT yet know her story/past...

Roxanne is a Claymore after all, and all Claymores had some kind of awful past....

It is completely possible that Yagi will reveal a sympathic past with Roxanne, just like we have with Priscilla, Ophelia, Clare, Deneve, Miria, Cassandra, Undine, Miata, and etc... (forgive me for all the characters that I'm leaving out, lol. There's too many to name all of them, lol)

[Aphetto]

Roxanne.

Hope she falls down the stairs and breaks her neck.

[Alisia]

Roxanne!! She is very bad, much more priscilla and riful.

[Joe7133]

I hope Roxanne awakens and kill off everyone along with Priscilla. Oh yeah, we need a new bad girl!

[Vengeance]

What exactly do you mean by bad? Because allot of the people you have listed aren't really bad at all. I don't really see how Teresa, Miata, Rachel, Galatea, Deneve, Helen, Agatha, Rafaela, Flora, Raftela, Clare can be considered evil which just leaves Riful, Priscilla, Ophelia, Roxanne, Agatha. I'm not going to vote until what you consider bad is clarified.

If you mean bad as in #1 Baddass then my vote would go to Clare since she's always seemed to have this I don't care how weak you think I am I'm still going to kick your booty attitude. Most of the time she goes into things head first & figures out the situation later. In terms of sadistic evil my vote is between Ophelia & Roxanne since the awakened ones can't really help themselves.

[HegemonKhan]

"Bad" can be whatever (ANYTHING, "Evil" or "stubborn/kick-ass" are both legit, as well as other definitions as well) you think it is, I intentionally want it to be ambigious, as I don't know how each person defines what "being bad" is like.

All the girls I've selected, for choices, can be considered as "bad girls", they do each have some "bad girl behavior" to them. If you know Claymore well, you should be able to understand the "badness" in each and every one of the choices of girls.

I'm more worried that I'm forgetting a few, really more than anything, laughs.

If you have additional choices to be added, post them and why you think they should be added

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actually, Awakeneds (or partially/some-what Awakeneds) can help themselves, they can choose to be good or evil, and/or switch between being evil or good, as well as giving in to their human-hunger vs not giving in to it, proving that they can help themselves:

Hilda, Isley, Riful, Luciela, Jean, Elena, Clare, Ophelia, Alicia, Beth, Priscilla, and etc...

[ZERO PHOENIX]

I'd have to go with Roxanne. I never did like Priscilla or Riful but whereas they annoyed or bored me, Roxanne actually made me want to dangle her ass off a balcony. Roxanne has done things in this manga that were twisted on a level that even Ophelia would be hardpressed to match. Of course it is not her actions that disgust me the most but in a way, her inactions. Standing idly by while an awakened being rapes and mutilates her own comrade as a new low. Roxanne is a disgrace as both a woman and a warrior. Here is hoping she gets pwned in the worst possible way. Here is hoping she gets ZERO PHOENIXED!

[Vengeance]

I'd have to go with Clare then since none of these women have ever openly went up to the organization asking to become a Claymore. She's basically the only one that chose her own path from the very beginning. Everyone else basically started out as drones.

[ZERO PHOENIX]

I'd have to go with Clare then since none of these women have ever openly went up to the organization asking to become a Claymore. She's basically the only one that chose her own path from the very beginning. Everyone else basically started out as drones.

We don't even know how "all" the other women became Claymores. We know the case stories of a very, very small handful of individuals but there are dozens of Claymore's whose backgrounds we don't know anything about. So you cannot (in good sense) say that Clare is the only one to have openly gone to the organization in hopes of becoming a Claymore, choosing her own path, and everyone else being drones yadda yadda. You have "some" grounds for a case when comparing Clare to a small sect of the warriors but you hardly have the facts to make a generalization as sweeping as the one you just made.

[Vengeance]

You posted this as a jest right? We don't even know how "all" the other women became Claymores. We know the case stories of a very, very small handful of individuals but there are dozens of Claymore's whose backgrounds we don't know anything about. So you cannot (in good sense) say that Clare is the only one to have openly gone to the organization in hopes of becoming a Claymore, choosing her own path, and everyone else being drones yadda yadda. You have "some" grounds for a case when comparing Clare to a small sect of the warriors but you hardly have the facts to make a generalization as sweeping as the one you just made.

Clare: And that's how I became the first person ever to knock on the Organizations door of her own free will.

Basically all the old school Claymore (the most bad ass ones) Did not simply walk up to the Organization & ask to become a Claymore. The Organization would basically take in Orphans whose parents were killed by Yoma. The children that were taken in were then experimented on & didn't have any chose in the matter. Clare as far as we know is the only person to ever to flat out ask to become one. So yes everyone else in comparison including Teresa, Roxanne, Riful, Priscilla, Ophelia , blablabla were simply drones.

[Joe7133]

Sorry, but Roxy just set the bar to being BAD! Unless you are counting Bad Boys too. I would give it to Rubel. A guy who place both side and let everyone kill of themselves, now that's being GODLY BAD!

[ZERO PHOENIX]

Clare: And that's how I became the first person ever to knock on the Organizations door of her own free will.

Basically all the old school Claymore (the most bad ass ones) Did not simply walk up to the Organization & ask to become a Claymore. The Organization would basically take in Orphans whose parents were killed by Yoma. The children that were taken in were then experimented on & didn't have any chose in the matter. Clare as far as we know is the only person to ever to flat out ask to become one. So yes everyone else in comparison including Teresa, Roxanne, Riful, Priscilla, Ophelia , blablabla were simply drones.

How would Clare know that? I'll make this easy. You argue that Clare is #1 because she is the first person to willingly and boldly become a Claymore. You have absolutely no way of knowing that but instead you post a quote which you somehow (somehow) believe to prove your point. It doesn't. Why? Because you have to ask how would Clare possess the knowledge of every other Claymore's history? How does Clare know that she is the first person to freely become a Claymore? If you posted a quote from Dae or Rimuto then your argument would actually have value because they would know more than anyone. A quote from Clare is more or less hearsay and especially suspect given that she is talking about herself. Even the most staunch truth-teller may embellish tales of their exploits. Clare, being a number 47 (weakest of the weak) would have much to gain from embellishing her story.