Bleach 470 Discussion

[thornofcarrion]

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[The Newbie.]

Story never advances much, no point in giving less detail to say it. Hopefully Riruka won't die, Inoue needs someone instead of tagging along. Riruka was introduced to be to Inoue what Rukia is to Ichigo. Maybe Shishigawara too, his ability at its luckiest can break anything.

[Darjaille]

That is....

NO BYAKUYA VS TSUKI? Lol Kubo the troll So what happens to those two?

Ginjo firing GT, it doesn't surprise me... but I think it should be just FB Getsuga, and that one is not even near in terms of strenght compared to Shinigami Ichigo no? At least, by skipping the end of B vs T, maybe we are closer to the relevations from Ginjo?

[munafn]

Well I expected little to no advancement. So basically ginjo feels like an all powerful badass and both ishida and ichigo are dumbfounded. Ishida was sucker sliced the first time around. I'm actually excited to see how he's grown in the last two years..especially since he's been exterminating hollows on uraharas request for a while. I'm sure he's made progress. lets see. As for ichigo, this is very crucial how kubo does it because it is the basis and the standard he will set for ichigo's future fights. Hopefully chapter is better than the spoiler

[3c]

Not much to go off by the spoilers, but sounds like a decent chapter. It's a good thing the spoilers finally arrived, with the chapters being late and all.

I think it's cool that Kubo teases us with the fights by switching around. Out of them all, Ginjō vs Ichigo and Ishida is the one which interests me the most. It's awesome that Ishida is in the fight too, he's always being given the cold shoulder by Kubo, but him teaming up with Ichigo can bring with it some really interesting happenings. I'm not surprised that Ginjō is able to use Getsuga either, he did absorb Ichigo's Fullbring after all, and is the only one to get physical traits similar to Ichigo's Fullbring design.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

That's just strange. I hope the chapter will be better than the spoilers.
So in Bankai Ichi defeated Aizen who evolved two or three times after defeating Isshin, Urahara and Yoruichi at the same moment. So now Ichi can't defeat mere Fullbringer in Shikai and he needs to team up with Ishida? That's just a joke.
I hope Ichigo is just seriously toying with Ginjou. Otherwise it's just strange.

[The Newbie.]

That's just strange. I hope the chapter will be better than the spoilers.
So in Bankai Ichi defeated Aizen who evolved two or three times after defeating Isshin, Urahara and Yoruichi at the same moment. So now Ichi can't defeat mere Fullbringer in Shikai and he needs to team up with Ishida? That's just a joke.
I hope Ichigo is just seriously toying with Ginjou. Otherwise it's just strange.

At the time Ichigo was infinitely stronger than Aizen, right how he doesn't know what to do now that Ginjo has his powers, and is stuck with normal reiatsu.

[cracker]

I'm going to go out on a limb here (albeit a short one) and say it looks like I was right. When Ginjo came out unscathed from Ichigo Getsuga Tenshou, its likely he absorbed it or could not be hurt by that type of energy since he absorbed some of Ichigo's powers.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

The Newbie
Ginjou only has his Fullbring powers, nothing special. Ichigo's Reiatsu is still insane. Ginjou was even shocked by it, when he saw Ichigo forming first Getsuga.

cracker
That's actually a good point. Maybe Ginjou's power as Fullbringer mostly revolves around absorbing someone's powers or maybe energy based attacks. Maybe it was also his Shinigami power.


Actually right now I can really see Ichigo waiting for revelations from Ginjou and then slicing him in half.

[Darjaille]

Anyway, even if those two can easily defeat Ginjo (right now, I'm not sure how strong is he going to be and what is power level of Ichigo now), he'll have to be alive long enough to talk, so don't expect a slaughter. That''s also why Ishida's here, so that he can go 'I knew it' when Ginjo reveals the we-don't-know-what-yet.

And it seems Riruka is being converted.

[SaitoSpike]

at this rate its become more and more clear that we wont be into anything new until the new year....we're likely to get a tease into whats coming in late december....its pretty obvious he's (Kubo) gonna try his damnest to drag these fights to 2012.....sadly

if it wasnt the case than the least he could have done was conclude Byakuya's fight before continuing these other 2.....especially since there's absolutely no advancement in these other 2 fights anyways it just seems like "oh by the way these fights are still going on too...."

also now that i think about it i'm kind of upset Ishida isnt going to get his revenge on a bastard who cut his arm off...especially having his father's pride....and having his father cut him up about it when he was in the hospital....woulda been just as good a fight as vs Byakuya imo....and a lil less one sided (cuz i still think Btyakuya's gonna whuuuupp that ass) and realistic in terms of each individuals level of ability

but meh

thx for the spoilers Darjaille , i was starting to wonder if there was a chapter this week since the spoilers have been slackfull in the past few...altho i can easily think of why lol (not much to get excited about recently)

---------- Post added at 04:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:53 PM ----------

And it seems Riruka is being converted.

ya kno i was thinking that her along with Shishigawara may go that route

its jus that we've been introduced and hyped about ppl before, potential allies, only for them to dissapear with no answers as to their whereabouts or why they dissapeared...see Grimmjow, Nel etc...it would be interesting tho

[Zoro #1]

meh.. so not much of a progress, I had hoped to see byakuya one shot tsuk. but i guess kubo is in the mood of trolling. The whole fight is stretching out too much the only character that has impressed me so far is kenpachi considering he actually literally one shot his opponent rather than playing around.

[White Silver King]

This is Post-DG Ichigo, right? Why the hell does he need any help taking care of Ginjo?

[cracker]

@White Silver King

Ichigo's shinigami powers have been restored but honestly we don't know exactly how strong he his...maybe Post Dangai level, maybe he isn't. We need more info to come to a better conclusion.

[ca12nag3]

@White Silver King

Ichigo's shinigami powers have been restored but honestly we don't know exactly how strong he his...maybe Post Dangai level, maybe he isn't. We need more info to come to a better conclusion.

I honestly dont believe he will get to PD. Dont ask me why its just that he would eclipse everyone else in the story into fodder category. What they restored most likely will be up to his bankai and thats that.

His entire powerup thing makes me think about dragonball how Goku trained in the *other world* snakeway up to king kai and he would be so much stronger then the rest it was rediculouse, safe to say the lvls went up from then on and the author had to pull ass to keep some of the characters even able to still see his power lol.

So Unless Kubo puts people into extreme training to catch up to Ichigos max power so far i dont think he will go back there for now. Obviously Renji showed improvement and i think everyone improved, but just not to Ichigos max lvl.