Bleach 470 Discussion

[Punisher6]

Man really there is no making some of you happy is there? You ask for fights we get fights now your complaining about story....... Story usually comes in the middle of the main battle and after the battle. Just enjoy the action were getting because were probably going to get a bunch of chapters with no fighting and all story after these battles..... Unless Ginjou is isshin's brother or he got GT from ichigo's fullbring i really can't stand the idea of him having GT. I also think Ichigo is holding back because he see's these opponents as weak compared to him. Ichigo doesn't go bankai for a mere hollow, in fact he only uses it for people on equal terms and greater than he is. Cant wait for the chapter though....i hate when they're late

P.S I think it may be nice to see Ichigo train with his father. I mean his father has the exact same abilities as Ichigo so he'd clearly be the best to train ichigo in using his GT better instead of spamming it. Although he only used it a few times so far. It'd also be cool to see is shin teach Ichigo the Death Flick move. Or maybe have Ichigo battle his dad for real to get information out of him.

[cracker]

@ Charred

Kensei had his ass handed to him and he was off paneled. Wonderweiss was implied to be incredibly strong, remember how entered the Yamma and Aizen encounter? He came in already released...so its likely he released and defeated Kensei rather quickly and because of his high speed regeneration, made it seem like he came out unscathed.

Some people are still somewhat unsure about the whole Aizen vs Soifon, since there was such heavy use of KS in that fight...who's to say what exactly happened. Maybe Soifon did come in contact with Aizen, maybe she didn't. Its possible her ability can simply be cancelled out if you are indeed strong enough.

Also there are some abilities in Bleach that are implied cannot be negated by spirit pressure difference. Like Mayuri's bankai poison, for he says he modifies his bankai through science so the poison is different everything (among other things)...that and the fact that he was still able to poison Ishida in his Final Quincy mode, after the huge power increase (ability not negated but different in spirit pressure). Also like Gin's bankai that was still able to inflict massive injury on a transcended Aizen, which would have killed him if it was not for the jewel.

Seriously the only time I remember the spirit pressure thing being an issue was Kenpachi vs Ichigo, in which an untrained, scared shitless Ichigo initially could not focus enough to harm Kenpachi. And Kenpachi not using enough "force" and having to get use to Nnoitora's body to hurt him. Most characters are trained so they know how much power to exert when fighting to injury their opponent.

On another note, I still can't believe the chapter isn't out -___-

[The Newbie.]

Worst part is that we are stuck with the shortest spoilers ever.

Moderator message by: toc

Chapter is out.

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Worst part is that we are stuck with the shortest spoilers ever.

Not only that, it's both really, really late and even the other shounens came out
Maybe it's such a bad chapter that even the raw provider thought "hell no" to scan it... xD

@Punisher6
That's because the story hardly have progressed at all and all we got was Ichigo getting his powers back and new artwork.
All the fullbringer revelation is absolutely pointless if they can't connect with the "story", it would seem like a filler if nothing changes soon.

I too am annoyed, the battles made it more interesting, but only having battles and artwork isn't gonna make up for the lack of story development... wth is Kubo thinking I wonder :|

[cracker]

Its out...lol

http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/470

[Skyguardian]

Ichigo is somehow cockier than 17 Months ago. He really changed. His eyes are totally different.

Well chapter was okay. The pace is okay too.

Rukia trying Hado 33 inside the costume... Win.

However. Next chapter it's time for Plot development.

[cracker]

The chapter is much better than the spoilers initially lead on. I'm impressed with Ginjou cutting that Getsuga Tenshou in two so easily...

@SkyGuardian

Maybe its plot development but I'm thinking that we'll get Riruka's backstory, which in my opinion isn't true plot development, that should most likely come from Ginjou, just some character development..

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Right let me get this straight, Rukia can use Shunpo while in the costume (gathering spiritual power at feet), but she can't manage to use Kiddo because her spirit power gets trapped in the costume...? Then how did she do that shunpo in the first place..? >.<

[The Newbie.]

Ichigo is somehow cockier than 17 Months ago. He really changed. His eyes are totally different.

Well chapter was okay. The pace is okay too.

Rukia trying Hado 33 inside the costume... Win.

However. Next chapter it's time for Plot development.

That's oldschool Ichigo, he kinda disappeared in the middle of the Arrancar arc because he know he couldn't win. Right now he is just walking in and taking attacks with his arms until he gets the best way to pummel Ginjo to the ground.

[Skyguardian]

Right let me get this straight, Rukia can use Shunpo while in the costume (gathering spiritual power at feet), but she can't manage to use Kiddo because her spirit power gets trapped in the costume...? Then how did she do that shunpo in the first place..? >.<

Because she can move. She is inside that costume right? So it would be normal to move it with Shunpo while inside of it. Her Sokatsui gathered around der hand inside. So it exploded because there was no way out.

@The Newbie Good to know. Well it's so long since than... I'm just happy to see this ichigo

@cracker Let's hope for the best. I myself am interessed in Riruka because she seems reasonable.

[daman246]

Ginjou is way to cocky he thinks he has all of ichigos skills they are skills he cant use even if he does know them like FGT or hollow mask because he doesnt have the neccesary requirements yo use them FGt is Zangetsu and HOllow fused to create the ultimate GT

[exacta]

Looks like next chapter Xcution is going to get development. I would really like to know the name of Cross of Scaffold's attack.It's not surprising that Ginjo can use GT, but I hope he uses other attacks too. Makes sense that Ginjo won't go down easy, but I'm very glad to see Ichigo shrugged off Ginjo's GT.......I want to enjoy Ichigo being a badass for a long time now.

[kidopitz27]

the worst part for Ginjo is he doesn't own Zangetsu and Tensa Zangetsu and also Hallow Ichigo and Ginjo is still screwed

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Because she can move. She is inside that costume right? So it would be normal to move it with Shunpo while inside of it. Her Sokatsui gathered around der hand inside. So it exploded because there was no way out.

@The Newbie Good to know. Well it's so long since than... I'm just happy to see this ichigo

@cracker Let's hope for the best. I myself am interessed in Riruka because she seems reasonable.

You make an interesting point, I wonder why I didn't see that >_<

About kiddo though, not all seem to actually come directly from the caster. The pure destructive kiddo's seem to come from the caster, while the more complicated kiddo, like the prison kiddo Aizen usually used, the binding spell Byakuya / Rukia uses and many more, seem to originate on the spot, rather than travelling from the caster like the Hadou 33 Soukatsui did.

I wonder if it's possible to use other kind of kiddo's, now is the chance for Rukia to formulate a plan while she's been forced to listen to the fullbringers story.

[daman246]

cant rukia just use the 61 spell that binds them with 6 rods the one that urahara use against aizen and the one byakuya loves to use
You imagine Ginjou also has hollow powers lol if he has them thats what i believe will screw him Hollow ichigo is no one tools specially someone thats not even him unlike ichigo