What are Tobi's eyes?

[Nath Uchiha]

Something got me thinking just now when I was re-reading the latest chapter. Before, I had simply assumed that Tobi kept his right sharingan eye while implanting the rinnegan, but with the recent chapter do you think its possible he implanted both? Is he superior to Madara and is capable of using them in different versions simultaniously? Or is Madara superior to him, as Tobi is incapable of choosing which form the eye takes and I was right with my first assumption?

As of now its merely an opinion piece, it can't be proven which but it would be interesting in what you think?

[Angol]

Too soon to discuss that, but I guess Tobi is not as gifted as Madara, I guess he only implanted one. If he could switch them, he would't have to go after them in the first place...unless he gave HIS eyes to Nagato and needed the same eyes to switch into Rinnegan. Anyway, Sharingan sees all and copies Jutsu...Rinnegan allows the 6 paths, combination of both is probably better than 2 Sharingans or 2 Rinnegans. I'm too confused, better stop writting xD

[Googlez_kun]

I think he kept his Sharingan,as the warping stuff seemed to be its special ability,an ability not even the Rinnegan seems to have.Don't know why he should give up on that,especially because he's used to it.

[Angol]

I think he kept his Sharingan,as the warping stuff seemed to be its special ability,an ability not even the Rinnegan seems to have.Don't know why he should give up on that,especially because he's used to it.

Yes, agree. I didn't even remember that, only the copy and speed abilities :S

[Roman]

There was a great theory by someone that Tobi might not be of Uchiha origin at all and that the eyes are implanted. The first thing that should pop in one's mind is his SHaringan. What do we know? He never deactivates it (like Kakashi). We can assume that his only use of it was his time-space jutsu which I suspect should be MS technique, which again, was never shown to us that he actually has Mangekyou Sharingan. About the Rinnegan... Well, apart from himself, where the hell did he get all the Rinnegans for the Jinchuurikis? I mean, that alone should be enough of a proof that he really knows his shit about transplanting eyes. The next question should be, given that we've seen that Madara's Rinnegan has Sharingan powers, why does Tobi even have Sharingan in one eye and how is that possible if they eyes AREN'T transplanted? I think he's simply a third party which wants to gain power by any means necessary, sort of like Orochimaru.

[Angol]

There was a great theory by someone that Tobi might not be of Uchiha origin at all and that the eyes are implanted. The first thing that should pop in one's mind is his SHaringan. What do we know? He never deactivates it (like Kakashi). We can assume that his only use of it was his time-space jutsu which I suspect should be MS technique, which again, was never shown to us that he actually has Mangekyou Sharingan. About the Rinnegan... Well, apart from himself, where the hell did he get all the Rinnegans for the Jinchuurikis? I mean, that alone should be enough of a proof that he really knows his shit about transplanting eyes. The next question should be, given that we've seen that Madara's Rinnegan has Sharingan powers, why does Tobi even have Sharingan in one eye and how is that possible if they eyes AREN'T transplanted? I think he's simply a third party which wants to gain power by any means necessary, sort of like Orochimaru.

He didn't transplant Rinnegans to his paths...the get the same eyes as their "user.

[Roman]

He didn't transplant Rinnegans to his paths...the get the same eyes as their "user.

Okay, but what about Sharingans?

[Angol]

Okay, but what about Sharingans?

Well, if the paths don't get the Sharingan from the black rod body control technique, he has a lab full of them from the Uchiha massacre But I guess the bodies just replicate the original's eyes.

[badluckartist]

Yes, agree. I didn't even remember that, only the copy and speed abilities :S

Also genjutsu. The rinnegan doesn't seem to be adept with using or defending against it.

[Googlez_kun]

Wasn't it said that when you have the Rinnegan that you are able to learn any jutsu?Which means that Rinnegan users don't immediatly have those jutsu,they still have to train them and stuff.With the help of the Sharingan this limit can be ignored,because it will just copy a technique it sees and he the user acquires the jutsu without any training involved.Furthermore,with the Rinnegan you can ignore the elemental disadvantages when copying techniques,which is not possible with a Sharingan only.So yeah,this combination is deadly in every possible way.

[Quantized]

Wasn't it said that when you have the Rinnegan that you are able to learn any jutsu?Which means that Rinnegan users don't immediatly have those jutsu,they still have to train them and stuff.With the help of the Sharingan this limit can be ignored,because it will just copy a technique it sees and he the user acquires the jutsu without any training involved.Furthermore,with the Rinnegan you can ignore the elemental disadvantages when copying techniques,which is not possible with a Sharingan only.So yeah,this combination is deadly in every possible way.

Got to agree here.
On another note, I doubt Tobi is completely without Uchiha blood, he more like seems like a mixture of a real human, zetsu and Madara. Remember Madara was the one who collected the 1st's cells, it's not far fetched that he himself had many experiments going on with cells. He probably came up with the idea that is similar to Kabuto's super crazy merging with Orochimaru.

So the reason he can't use sharingan probably, and EMS, switching to Rinnegan might lay in that he's not 100% Uchiha, and possibly, also because he didn't develop Rinnegan naturally.

Would you expect someone without Uchiha talents or experience to have EMS if you implanted the same eye cable of EMS, but in it's normal sharingan state upon implant..?
Nagato also couldn't switch to Sharingan. Though Kakashi seems to be able to use MS tech's after many years of training but he's also a really gifted ninja, just without the power to back it up.

Seemingly, eyes stay in the state they're implanted unless that person is in particular gifted, or an Uchiha them selves. If Tobi is not 100% Uchiha, but say, 33% Uchiha, then he might not be as deadly as an typical Uchiha like Sasuke or Madara, though, very hard to kill because of his space time jutsu's.

Think there is a pattern..

Tobi - Incredibly hard to kill, but weak attack powers.
Madara - Incredibly deadly, he always seem to strike first, but also very vulnerable to attacks should he get hit, (likely imho).

Tobi's new layout seem to lay in weak attacks, but hard to kill or capture and effective fast attacks, but weak.

or who knows, as first comment said, this is really still to early to discuss, it could be anyone's guess what is actually to come at this point.

[Esteem]

With the help of the Sharingan this limit can be ignored,because it will just copy a technique it sees and he the user acquires the jutsu without any training involved.Furthermore,with the Rinnegan you can ignore the elemental disadvantages when copying techniques,which is not possible with a Sharingan only.So yeah,this combination is deadly in every possible way.

You got me there, but why would one upgrade to Rinnegan? It seems to be the best Dojutsu combo o_O
It looks like Madara screwed -_-

Anyway, I wanted to point out, that if I were Mr. Masashi, I would read those god damn pages to be sure I am not doing a thing wrong. You guys have created something really precious ^_^

[xXan]

You got me there, but why would one upgrade to Rinnegan? It seems to be the best Dojutsu combo o_O
It looks like Madara screwed -_-

Anyway, I wanted to point out, that if I were Mr. Masashi, I would read those god damn pages to be sure I am not doing a thing wrong. You guys have created something really precious ^_^

We don't know the details but what if you can't use all the Rinnegan tech's with only 1 eye? Like you can't use Susano with 1 MS and you need 2 MS eyes for that? How about if using 1 Rinnegan eye your Rinnegan abilities are also half powered?

[Jorge D. Dragon]

We don't know for sure, but maybe Tobi really implanted only one Rinnegan eye, because it would have been noted if it was otherwise? Also his eye with Sharingan has his warping tech and maybe that's why he didn't want to loose his main move thus he only implanted one Rinnegan.
And I suppose he didn't know that Rinnegan is superior version of Sharingan and he can't convert Rinnegan to Sharingan as Madara can, thus I believe he truly isn't Uchiha Madara in any way. I don't even believe that he is clone in any way by any means.

[redrob098]

I just figured this out while reading chapter 571. When you get a close up of Tobis Sharingan, its revealed to be an MS now. It's Madara's brothers MS. I think we know who Tobi is now...