Bleach 471 Discussion

[zelllogan]

Ouiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnn ... I don't know what's the equivalent onomatopiea for someone who's crying in english. Please, give me a break.
Some sad past story to explain current actions, that's just weak. At least it wasn't long but it sure wasn't needed either.

The only thing left in the once great manga Bleach is classy fights... who cares about some dolls & sad pasts of anecdotic characters ?

[thornofcarrion]

Backstory's is mostly shown to connect readers and the characters. In some case, it is necessary and in some, it is not that important. Having a chapter of backstory is acceptable I guess. Of course, this chapter left unsatisfying feelings.

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Actually I would say only Jackie's and Riruka's backstories justified them and they were not actually bad, but that backstory couldn't justify Katsuzawa (actually it made him even more sadistic and crazy and I really enjoy him dieing) or PS3 boy.
Also I want to know Ginjou's agenda. What is his real objective. I don't think he actually believes to take down all his opponents. It's just imposible. He shouldn't even take down Ichigo in Shikai, who is just toying with him and even more there are still Kenpachi, Toshiro, not even talking about Renji, Ikkakua and Yachiru. He will be obviously down. I hope the next chapter will be focused on Byakuya and Tsukishima. I hope we'll see some decent fight and I hope it will also end soon, so we can finally move to Ichigo's fight and some interesting revelations, that I hope are bound to come from Ginjou.

[Quantized]

Got to ponder on why Ichigo was drawn like this http://mangastream.com/read/bleach/87477847/21
I mean, it's not possible to twist your arm like that while your hand is upwards, and it'd be a bad swing with Zangetsu... but it looks damn cool nevertheless.

The flashback was ok, I agree as well, we needed it even if it was annoying.
The flashback also took a step towards the theory that Tsukishima and Ginjou both will outlast this arc into the next one.. it'd be better to make an overall flashback of them all imho after they all had lost rather than this, so it seems they won't get any flashbacks any time soon.

Well, just hope they're working for someone insanely powerful, rather than being on their own.

[Asclepius]

I enjoyed the Espadas backstory. I enjoyed the buga-ooga team (with nel-iel) backstory. Pratically all the backstories in Bleach so far.
Not this time.
Riruka glomping Rukia didn't help.

Now, i thought that she was gonna use Lovegun. But using her hands make me bet on some kind of release. I mean, she told all that thing about her crush and regretting to have done it... To me, this was the very end of the "fight" and Rukia will be free on next scene.

That's all i can think from it at the moment.

[Archit]

I'm going to predict Rukia will be freed the next scene. She's already had two episodes of being a stuff animal so I would assume Kubo puts it to rest. It's already bothering me because I'm a big Rukia fan and I hate to see her disabled.

[Darjaille]

Well, I can't say I liked that backstory. It was nice to see that Jackie and Riruka (girls, so of course) weren't actually bad but... when I was thinking of a backstory, I wanted to know more about their organisation, about Tsukishima and Ginjo. Also, didn't Riruka say (in 470) that they were saved by Tsukishima? Well he wasn't in the backstory at all.

About the final strike... I seriously think Rukia may be down. She's not gone, of course she won't die, but she looks really bad.
The only possibilities are, from "Sorry about this, it's just I didn't want to be finished by that power"
I'd say 80% she's talking about Tsukishiro, but maybe maybe she's talking about Ichigo's power. Now it his fb kills others...
But I don't think Riruka switched sides (Rukia certainly didn't convince her), so IMO it's either typical cliffhanger with Rukia standing up and curbstomping Riruka (but we thought the same with Tsuki vs Bya and the fight isn't going smoothly) or she may be out of the game.
What wouldn't be that bad if in the end she's still alive, I want to see berserk mode Ichigo

[lordoffantasy]

well someone was pulling our legs about a whole appearing. riiruka jsut punched rukia, using ichigo step, and is about to use that r power on her little ass.

[kanamechidori]

People feel sorry for Riruka?

How would you feel if a child kidnapped you, placed you into a dollhouse and fed you only candy and sweets while trying to declare her undying love for you.

The only people who would enjoy that are the partyvan crowd.

Anyone else would be either squicked out or frustrated that a kid doesn't understand why a grown man shouldn't be with an 8 year old.

Besides Riruka seems really selfish and jealous, I have a feeling Gina wasn't lying to get her into trouble. Riruka really did steal it then Riruka either used her ability to hide it or used her ability to murder gina

Jackie I can empathize with, but Rirukas a big ball of crazy.

[Sky Render]

If there is any real reason I read Bleach with even more enthusiasm that better manga like One Piece is because of Kubo's twisted philosophy.

I've never thought of "weak become the prey" as an illusion. This is a way of thinking I've never seen before.

Nice going.

[sarutobi_sensei]

So that's how he lost his eye. I do feel sorry for Jackie, but Kutsuzawa, Yukio and Riruka, I don't. Those 3 did those things on purpose. What happened to Jackie was not her fault.

Rukia should've been more agressive, she should've killed her when she had the change. Now she's down...

So, next is Byakuya vs Tsukishima again? Please end it on the next chapter.

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Oh and Ginjo definitely has something else going cause he looked the same years ago.

[kidopitz27]

after reading this chapter i just notice it more those FB guys are just dumb asses as f*ck and look at the dumb ass butler guy tested his power of time on his wife? the gameboy kid that his family always leaving him for business if its me i'll jump and enjoy myself


butler guy - tested his powers and killed his wife now wants more power ? to turn back time and resurrect his wife
doll girl - EMO , Unsocial FOREVER ALONE LVL 1000
Gameboy kid - Rich Family why not enjoy it FOREVER ALONE LVL 1000 but have money

[The Newbie.]

Jackie had bad luck. I don't get what happened to her, though.
Riruka wasn't so bad, she just was obsessed with things she liked, and as she said before, she wants to have everything that is cute.
Yukio was spoiled rotten, and was angry with his parents because they would never be home.
Kutsuzawa was always a sadic, compulsive bastard, he got what he deserved. I still don't understand his power entirely.
Ginjo might have something too, since he got them all together using the same argument.
Tsukishima is still shady though, he wasn't mentioned by Riruka, and he didn't want Ichigo's power for some reason. He is either working with Ginjo or has already cut the FBs many times, inserting himself in their pasts until he got a common place in all of the fullbrings'.

I hope nothing bad happens to Riruka, she didn't do anything bad to Rukia or anything, just let out her anger because of what Rukia said. The whole "hole in the chest' looks more like another attack to stun or trap Rukia inside something.

[Xerneas]

Jackie's family was slaughtered cause her father was a criminal and obviously stole from some hardcore people. So he got what was coming and the rest paid the price too. Anyway, flashbacks just aren't Kubo's thing. I still remember how terrible Gin's was. Jackie's was the only good one. All the Fullbringers except her seem mentally disturbed on varying levels. And really, I don't get the point of giving flashbacks to people weeks after they got killed. Its a very rare pattern-break by Kubo. Which I find unnecessary, cause his old way of doing flashbacks before or just after someone lost makes more sense.

Kubo...can we please get to Ginjou wreaking havoc and taking us into the next arc? I already explained why he has to deliver the goods.

[cracker]

I was right, this chapter was more about character development more than true plot progression. That will likely come from Ginjou. Tsukishima seems even shadier since he wasn't mentioned at all, so he's still far more mysterious than the rest.

And Giriko ability seemed pretty fucked up this chapter, he killed his wife just by looking at her and wishing her dead...hax much lol