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    Noblesse Chapter 208 Review

    I'd like to congratulate Lawrence, Eros Vp, and phio_chan. You guys called that Frankenstein would discover the identities of the Agency's target recruits before Rael would show up and before the agency would figure out that they aren't the only super-humans around. So good call.

    Now onto the review!

    Chapter Summary

    My manboobs! My only weakness....how did he know?!


    Things kick off this week with Tao getting everybody up to speed on what he's discovered about the Na Yontsu and An Sangeen. He explains that they are agents of something called the KSA. A sort of black ops and intelligence service in Korea focused on dealing with "special circumstances". They quickly figure out, based on the fact that the agents are neither interested in the school nor the nobles, that the agents must be recruiting.

    Then Tao says something that fills the room with unease. Turns out that most of the recruits go missing after recruitment. He also has found the two most likely candidates that they would be interested in are Shin Woo and Ikkan. As you might expect, nobody was particularly happy about that information but it's agreed that by itself it's not enough to kick the agents out without causing big trouble; so Frankenstein asks Tao to continue investigating.

    The scene changes to Frankenstein serving Raizel tea while he worries about the effect all this will have on his master's current situation. But Raizel speaks up and instructs Frankenstein not to allow himself to make wrong decisions because of such concerns. Which I take to mean "Do right by Shin Woo and Ikkan regardless of the consequences to us."

    The scene changes again, this time to Na Yontsu and An Sangeen, who are setting up a test for Shin Woo by sending some trainees to pick a fight with his friends. Four trainees intercept the schoolmates on the way home from school while the agents watch from a nearby parked car. They knock the girls down and commence general douchebaggery. Until Shin Woo steps up and sends the largest of them flying like he was nothing. Then everyone just stares on in a state of shock as Shin Woo calmly picks up his schoolbag and feigns innocence with a somewhat-evil smirk on his face.

    Chapter Review

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    Substance
    The cat is out of the bag, so to speak. The KSA and Shin Woo both got discovered this week and things are going to get pretty interesting from here on.

    Thanks to Tao's briefing we learned a lot about the KSA. The information about most of the recruits going missing hits at about 8.0 on my personal "Evil O' Meter". Now they are not just an annoyance but a possible threat to Raizel's young friends. I think this represents a big change in how the nobles will regard and respond to them. Though she shows no outward signs of it, I think I can actually feel Seira's proverbial grip tightening on her smiting hammer.

    I continue to think there is something odd about Shin Woo physically. He beat-down that trainee like he was nothing. Dispatching a skilled opponent with such ease is the type of thing I would expect from enhanced humans, like M-21, but Shin Woo is a vanilla mortal... or is he?

    Na Yontsu's surprise at the "trainees" general attitude and appearance strikes me as something else that may be significant. She seems to very much view her role in the KSA as enforcer of justice, and her reaction to seeing KSA people looking like thugs makes me believe even more strongly that if the agency as a whole was up to no good she would likely choose her own sense of justice over patriotic loyalty.

    Presentation
    A really well put together chapter across the board. The first 3/4ths was devoted to setting the stage with background and information and the last 1/4th was pure Shin Woo badassery; which, in my opinion, is winning a combination.

    The art was solid during the first 3/4ths and stellar in the last 1/4th. The whole trainee vs Shin Woo scene looked great. Especially the kick panel. I usually don't like exaggerated afterimage shots but that one looked awesome.

    Final Rating
    Information punctuated with action. That's how I would describe this chapter. This is the kind of chapter that's great to read and leaves me itching to read the next installment. The only thing that I think holds this chapter back in the smallest of ways is that the transitions between scenes aren't as crisp as they could have been.

    So I give this chapter a 4 out of 5

    My Predictions (Current Record 6-2)
    • The trainees that disappeared are dead or worse.
    • Those trainees fighting Shin Woo are going to lose their cool after being embarrassed by him and break out whatever human modifications they have.

    My Previous Predictions

    Spoiler: Ongoing show


    Character Spotlight: Han Shin Woo

    Oga Tatsumi would be proud of that evil expression

    Han Shin Woo is the man. He's the second character to be introduced in Noblesse and the first friend Raizel made in the series. He's brave, strong, and lighthearted. Often embodying the very best of human nature.

    His bold friendly personality has helped Raizel gain more friends and even turned Frankenstein's home into what is practically a community hangout. In a way he is the keystone of Raizel's social world and, oddly enough, seems to be a person that Raizel obeys. In most circumstances Raizel leads and others follow but somehow when Shin Woo is in the room it seems like Raizel is the one following.

    And, though he doesn't often show it off, he is a talented fighter who is incredibly fast and strong. So strong, in fact, that it's caused me to suspect there is more to Shin Woo than meets the eye. Which is just one of the many reasons Shin Woo is such a fun character see continue to develop. What he is now is great but what he could become is amazing.

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    What happened to those trainees that vanished?
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    Re: Noblesse Chapter 208 Review

    good review that was a very nice and pleasant reading
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    I think I can actually feel Seira's proverbial grip tightening on her smiting hammer.
    lmao

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    She seems to very much view her role in the KSA as enforcer of justice, and her reaction to seeing KSA people looking like thugs makes me believe even more strongly that if the agency as a whole was up to no good she would likely choose her own sense of justice over patriotic loyalty.
    nice catch, somehow i can already see her joining Rai and frank side. She would be the first girl in the RK-4
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    Re: Noblesse Chapter 208 Review

    One thing about the art: I feel that lately the characters' eyes are getting smaller even more. I think that's why I feel that there is something strange when I look at the characters. And the traces of their faces and bodies. Anyone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jammin View Post
    I continue to think there is something odd about Shin Woo physically. He beat-down that trainee like he was nothing. Dispatching a skilled opponent with such ease is the type of thing I would expect from enhanced humans, like M-21, but Shin Woo is a vanilla mortal... or is he?m the

    Na Yontsu's surprise at the "trainees" general attitude and appearance strikes me as something else that may be significant. She seems to very much view her role in the KSA as enforcer of justice, and her reaction to seeing KSA people looking like thugs makes me believe even more strongly that if the agency as a whole was up to no good she would likely choose her own sense of justice over patriotic loyalty.
    This discussion about Shinwoo's real identity seems to be an interesting point ever since the issue of his recruitment by KSA. I am a type of reader who doesn't really pay attention to additional graphics such as in the effects of Shinwoo's attacks, but you guys make it sounds so suspicious. XD Now I begin to wonder about that too. Is it possible that he is a half-breed, of nobles or even werewolves? Unlike M-21 who received a werewolf's heart.

    Na Yontsu looks interesting so far, too. I agree that she is the 'exploding', quick to think and to act type, and has high sense of justice. I'm looking forward for more roles from her.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jammin View Post
    In a way he is the keystone of Raizel's social world and, oddly enough, seems to be a person that Raizel obeys. In most circumstances Raizel leads and others follow but somehow when Shin Woo is in the room it seems like Raizel is the one following.
    To me it feels like Rai obeyed him because Rai believed that Shinwoo would always give him new experiences about various things. XD A great way to describe it, though!

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    What happened to those trainees that vanished?
    Turned into another set of modified humans, brainwashed by the Union? Turned into vampires by previous modified human experiments? Or just... dead? I wonder. Too vague here.

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    Re: Noblesse Chapter 208 Review

    I read all good stuff about the chapter, and yet the mark is still 4...did I miss something?

    And I would like to note something about Shinwoo's capabilities...he wasn't shown to be as capable in the past, but we know he had experiences, that marked his body, that challenged his body and mental capabilities a lot...even though he doesn't remember, the body does, and power and the reflexes remain...so he is getting "power ups" and he was evolving through these conflicts, though he himself couldn't and shouldn't be able to pinpoint the reason

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    Re: Noblesse Chapter 208 Review

    Hmm, that is possible. I don't really remember as far as that, but to see how he reacts so fast like that, he is indeed a pro. Even though he might not remember it. An encounter in the past with someone who can erase memories, like nobles? XD But in what occasion would he had such experience before? That would be very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benelori View Post
    I read all good stuff about the chapter, and yet the mark is still 4...did I miss something?

    And I would like to note something about Shinwoo's capabilities...he wasn't shown to be as capable in the past, but we know he had experiences, that marked his body, that challenged his body and mental capabilities a lot...even though he doesn't remember, the body does, and power and the reflexes remain...so he is getting "power ups" and he was evolving through these conflicts, though he himself couldn't and shouldn't be able to pinpoint the reason
    I only award a 5 for absolute perfection. In other words if there is not a single noticeable flaw. And in the final rating I mentioned that the scene transitions were as smooth as they could have been.

    I think the big question with Shin Woo is the question of "Are the abilities he's displaying superhuman?" Regardless of his forgotten experiences he is doing thing that it seems to me that a vanilla mortal just shouldn't be able to do unless they had enough steroids flowing through there veins to kill a waterbuffalo.

    Comics are often guilty of exaggerated human physical attributes but I think the stuff he's done stands out even beyond that.
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    Yeah...well maybe there is some superhuman potential...but...no vanilla mortal went through experiences, such as fighting enhanced humanoid monsters, and nearly lose his life, and witnessed such things...so in that sense he is not vanilla human indeed...so the source of his abilities may be super human....but the abilities themselves still don't strike me as super human...well at least not, yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by benelori View Post
    Yeah...well maybe there is some superhuman potential...but...no vanilla mortal went through experiences, such as fighting enhanced humanoid monsters, and nearly lose his life, and witnessed such things...so in that sense he is not vanilla human indeed...so the source of his abilities may be super human....but the abilities themselves still don't strike me as super human...well at least not, yet
    It seems to me though those experiences could account for his skill, his combat instincts, and his reflexes; but not his power and speed. Those would come from training which he doesn't seem to have had.

    His strength and speed just seem so unprecedented among humans in Noblesse. He's fighting like a character from History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi but he doesn't seem to do any training. He seems to be just a naturally world record shattering athlete.
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    Well to be fair, he is the typical punk character...he even has that thing on his nose, which seems to me that it's because some kind of injury...so street fights, or typical street life would definitely improve ones strength and speed...at least that's how I think about Shinwoo...even from the beginning, he struck me as Ichigo tbh(ok...even though we could attribute Ichigo strength to his reiatsu)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by benelori View Post
    Well to be fair, he is the typical punk character...he even has that thing on his nose, which seems to me that it's because some kind of injury...so street fights, or typical street life would definitely improve ones strength and speed...at least that's how I think about Shinwoo...even from the beginning, he struck me as Ichigo tbh(ok...even though we could attribute Ichigo strength to his reiatsu)...
    It's a tricky area to judge really. Comics have quite the tenancy to use the visual equivalent of hyperbole; which makes it hard to figure out what is actually superhuman and what is exaggerated to the point of looking that way.

    I think the thing that nags me the most about Shin Woo is that people around him in the comic seem to notice he's not normal. And not just while fighting. Not many people seemed to notice Ichigo's superhuman strength, even though he actually is somewhat superhuman, yet with Shin Woo people have been pretty consistently commenting on how crazy powerful his phyiscal abilities are. Remember that chapter at the photo shoot where he lifted that heavy case like it was weightless?

    I just think he's too far above the Noblesse norm for humans for their not to be some reason behind it.
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