Bleach 472 Discussion

[abyozuu]

in the anime fillers sode no shirayuki looked like a calm, collected mature woman unlike her wielder. i dont think she has obsession of cute things. as inner world for rukia, i would prefer a snowy feudal japanese samurai village similar to the one in the last samurai movie.

[daman246]

Just liek Gin said. tsukishima is way to arrogant just because his powers are hax he thinks he can escape or counter any move he already knows lol what a fool. tsukishima is like a trash version of a downgraded aizen with KS. Aizen would have lost the fight before it even began if he wasnt that powerfull without KS

[exacta]

I'm still waiting those "hanging bodys in HM to be an important part of upcoming mini-arc" to play their role...so i supose they gonna be this "WTF moment" (of course if Kubo didnt forgot about them)

I've actually wondered if the Fullbringers were those hanging bodies......

[sojithesoulja]

What hanging bodies?

[ca12nag3]

I've actually wondered if the Fullbringers were those hanging bodies......

Those hanging bodies well 1 was thin and long and the other short? I thought more like it would be the fracion of Nels bodies or something like clones. I dunno. It just doesnt look like those are a match with any of the fullbringers.

oh and here is the page

http://www.goodmanga.net/bleach/chapter/306/16

ch 306 page 16

If anything its 2 hanging bodies and it just looks like it would be them really. Nels fraccion. But then again it can be anything else. However the right 1 (or left from his point of view) is a bigger short person, so it cant be the fullbringers i think.

Either way to me it just looks like we havnt heard the last of the arrancar. And the HM realm. At least i hope so.

[benelori]

What hanging bodies?

I think he was thinking about the bodies in Szayel's lab...and it's a pretty good theory...would the Fullbringers be an experiment of Szayel? I wonder then if Aizen knew about them

of course he knew, duh

[sojithesoulja]

Ah yes. Szayel's lab. I remember now. Wasn't his research supposed to show us something significant... and yet we get this fullbring crap. (It doesn't make sense for them to be an experiment because how could Ichigo use FB if they were?) Funny how Grimmjow was rated 4th most popular in the next issue and we haven't heard a word from him. I want Nel back too! Little Nel! Maybe my wish will be granted next chapter with Nel and Grimmjow showing up for no apparent reason.

[leeyandrow]

Just liek Gin said. tsukishima is way to arrogant just because his powers are hax he thinks he can escape or counter any move he already knows lol what a fool. tsukishima is like a trash version of a downgraded aizen with KS. Aizen would have lost the fight before it even began if he wasnt that powerfull without KS

It's not a good fight for me... exploiting enemy weakness is not a good idea. Showing secrete skills that are stronger or advance than your enemy is more acceptable in this fight. its like, Byakuya won the fight because tsukishima is arrogant. not because byakuya is stronger than tsukishima. it's just a lucky punch!!! get the point?

[thedarkoneaox]

Hold on I think some are confusing something, Tsukishima knows some of the past however he also inserts himself, and different things into it. Which means he makes up whatever he wants about their past. Meaning he may know some of Bya moves but he can also make up certain conditions to them by inserting them into his past. And even if all these things are true, he still really doesnt have a counter for them besides trying to make up more condition like he was doing with Orihime and Chad. Notice even after he was supposed to beat Aizen, suddenly he still had to tell them he was the one thru out their life that protected each person, plus was adlibbing. His powers remind me of something we did in school where everyone wrote a part to one story. If he able to read from their past and insert things its limited. Probably to their power, and the dept of the memory. Something with gaps in it, thats vague he probably can insert himself freely, however recent and fresh probably is difficult or impossible. The reason I said this is because of how he handled Chad and Orihime, in the Aizen fight there would be gaps where they werent together even if told its not like when you see something, or experience it. Just like their past, no one fully remembers from childhood til now. Even some of the most tragic things get vague after not thinking about them. Because if he was freely able to rewrite everything then there would be no reason to fight Bya, he could have cut him and said "Thank god I broke the illusion, Aizen son(Ichigo) almost had you kill me, and the rest of the Shinigami's that sided with Aizen are trying to wipe us out" Knowing how proud Bya is he would have though nothing of killing rogue shinigamis especially Kenpachi. Which is why I also said it must have something to do with their power also, which you seen they stole part of Ichigo's powers to enhance their. Not all of my theory is sound, but just a idea. Feedback is welcome, but please no flaming...

[Darjaille]

It's not a good fight for me... exploiting enemy weakness is not a good idea. Showing secrete skills that are stronger or advance than your enemy is more acceptable in this fight. its like, Byakuya won the fight because tsukishima is arrogant. not because byakuya is stronger than tsukishima. it's just a lucky punch!!! get the point?

The same goes for Tsukishima.
My opinion is that the only reason Tsuki was able to cut Bya was Byakuya's arrogance, a moment of surprise, and, luck.

Hm, maybe they're actually almost even

[sojithesoulja]

I hope Tsuki lives and meets Aizen one day. I would get great satisfaction from Aizen cutting him down. More so than any other character... weird. Well maybe Kenpachi's VC would give me the same level of joy.

[Hrathgrath]

The same goes for Tsukishima.
My opinion is that the only reason Tsuki was able to cut Bya was Byakuya's arrogance, a moment of surprise, and, luck.

Hm, maybe they're actually almost even

I tink the reason Tsukishima didn't make byakuya his friend is because it wouldn't do him any good. He would have to kill him to leave and byakuya is the type to kill him even if he IS a comrade. Also I think they are "equal" only because he spent all that "time" "training with Byakuya". He did say specificly "you have gotten better, the problem is I've gotten better with you". I'm paraphrasing but you get the point.

[Airget]

Hm well with Tsuki's ability becoming a "friend" didn't happen right away. It would take time before their mind was manipulated to actually consider him an ally and trusted member. With the time frame in question and inability to run away it's quite possible that Tsuki knew the best means of attack would be to learn all he could about his enemy since he would be unable to retreat.

In terms of their arrogance, they both do hold their own sign of arrogance, Byakuya thinking that he knew all there was to know about the enemy and Tsuki thinking that he knew everything about Byakuya since he slashed him. Tsuki relies to much on putting the person into a state of fear and being unable to use their normal tactics. Byakuya, who had many tactics even though they were all failing and his weakness was revealed, he still kept a cool head and continued on fighting to find the flaw in Tsuki's abitlity.

I think one amusing thing to think is perhaps Kenpachi would've been a good opponent for Tsuki since he's pretty much a Berserk, I doubt a Berserker really has a concrete strategy in battle so to actually fight against an animal would be tougher then one who actually has thoughtful plans of actions during a fight.
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The one mystery left with Tsuki though is that if he's really dead will Chad and Orhime return to normal? If they don't then their is a good chance that Byakuya's mind might end up turning against them though if he does realize that Chad and orhime still see Tsuki as a friend he may be able to act quick enough to get himself bound so that he's not a threat to his allies.

[Hrathgrath]

Hm well with Tsuki's ability becoming a "friend" didn't happen right away. It would take time before their mind was manipulated to actually consider him an ally and trusted member. With the time frame in question and inability to run away it's quite possible that Tsuki knew the best means of attack would be to learn all he could about his enemy since he would be unable to retreat.

In terms of their arrogance, they both do hold their own sign of arrogance, Byakuya thinking that he knew all there was to know about the enemy and Tsuki thinking that he knew everything about Byakuya since he slashed him. Tsuki relies to much on putting the person into a state of fear and being unable to use their normal tactics. Byakuya, who had many tactics even though they were all failing and his weakness was revealed, he still kept a cool head and continued on fighting to find the flaw in Tsuki's abitlity.

I think one amusing thing to think is perhaps Kenpachi would've been a good opponent for Tsuki since he's pretty much a Berserk, I doubt a Berserker really has a concrete strategy in battle so to actually fight against an animal would be tougher then one who actually has thoughtful plans of actions during a fight.
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The one mystery left with Tsuki though is that if he's really dead will Chad and Orhime return to normal? If they don't then their is a good chance that Byakuya's mind might end up turning against them though if he does realize that Chad and orhime still see Tsuki as a friend he may be able to act quick enough to get himself bound so that he's not a threat to his allies.

I was wondering that myself, since he slashed Senbonzakura I was thinking it wouldn't be too farfetched if he were to change the past of the sword killing him...

[mattiaildivino]

oh,finally byakuya has rivealed himself,that is a genious who always attacks himself in order to own the opponent