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    Re: Why Raki-chan is loved by so many girls but not by that many boys

    But since you ask I quoted this over on our forum while it seemed eloquent.

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    ---------- Post added February 26, 2013 at 07:23 AM ---------- Previous post was February 25, 2013 at 01:09 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Coa View Post
    Wow...just wow faintsmile1992... On what colleague do you go when you are this thorough on people's behavior and have access to such extensive material?
    Good job posting all that, there are some very interesting thing in that post.
    Thank you, Brother.

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    Clare is meanned and disinhibited because of what happened in her past - her family was murdered by yoma who used her as a toy until Teresa saved her, she was already scarred back them. And just when she was returning to normal Priscilla killed Teresa - in front of her. That was crucial period of time for her as she as person changed once again. Her body was full of hatred and she thought of nothing else but to kill her. Add to that the fact that nobody in her life beside Teresa and those few Human is that village where Teresa left her helped her. All other Humans in her life either didn't care or attacked her ( bandits ), so normally she would be anti-social because of that. She is heartless because she probably decided to keep all her pain for herself, probably not to be burden to anyone.

    As for boldness... she probably got that from the beginning, she is insanely brave and has quite the temper when she is angry. She showed that from the very beginning when she followed Teresa even if she kicked her few times and threaten to kill her, she even attacked bandit who tried to rape her even if she knew that she doesn't have any chance against him. This is the trait I believe she carried from the very beginning.
    Right, she has a strong will to power but it was supressed.

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    To tell you the truth, I am surprised she is not psycho like Ophelia after all that happened to her. It's a bloody miracle she is only anti-social and heartless. I guess Raki is the one thing that will keep her on her path to Humanity, that is if they both survive this battle and stay together this time.
    Well, you're supposed to make the connection. And with Priscilla.

    Some people have said that Yagi re-uses characters in the Claymore-verse but it's more like you're supposed to recognise the parallels between certain characters.

    ---------- Post added at 08:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:23 AM ----------

    I still want to know where Raki's name comes from.

    The 'r' coulf have been an 'r' or an 'l' whilst the first wowel could be 'a', 'o' or 'u' and the final letter in his name could be silent.

    My guess is Yagi is giving either a nod to the Polish origins of The Witcher, or to Raki the dog-king of the Danes.

    "An earlier account is given in the Chronicon Lethrense V (SMHD, p.48) where Athisl of Sweden made his dog Raki king of the Danes, and this animal also jumped down to join in a fight among other dogs in the hall, and was killed. Athisl had so loved his dog that he had sworn to execute anyone who told him of its death, but finally a clever messenger tricked the king into announcing the death himself. Saxo has made use of this story to express his contempt for the Norwegians." - from Hilda Roderick Ellis Davidson's notes about the dog-king episode in Saxo's The History of the Danes. Will he get killed by jumping into a fight?
    Last edited by faintsmile1992; February 26, 2013 at 03:19 AM.

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    Re: Why Raki-chan is loved by so many girls but not by that many boys

    faintsmile1992: I'm a bit confused by your use of the terms "alpha" and "beta" in this context. I've never heard those used non-allegorically to describe humans before. I'd like to know more about what you mean, but we also shouldn't derail the thread. Could you perhaps direct me to some sources?

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    Re: Why Raki-chan is loved by so many girls but not by that many boys

    Quote Originally Posted by lies View Post
    faintsmile1992: I'm a bit confused by your use of the terms "alpha" and "beta" in this context. I've never heard those used non-allegorically to describe humans before. I'd like to know more about what you mean, but we also shouldn't derail the thread. Could you perhaps direct me to some sources?
    Its informal and relates to the 'rules of game' that people such as Roissy/Heartiste talk about if you Google for the words 'alpha', 'beta' and 'game', some definitions are probably on the Urban Dictionary too if you search there.

    Basically, alphas have the personality traits women seek in protectors whilst betas have the traits women seek in providers. Raki is therefore a protector and not a provider.

    Obviously the words aren't used in 'real' psychological texts, but they reflect evol psych and what people have observed for centuries. Also what women are more likely to find attractive at a given time is affected by ovulation, during which time women become more attracted to alpha traits than usual.

    If a girl finds a lad like Raki, he's daddy material because he's an alpha who'd stick around. It's also why girls get crushes on lads with a similar personality like Allen Walker. Though their nonthreatening look could be said to give them a more beta attractiveness as well, its their masculine instincts to protect that are turn on, and not the promise of economic provision lol.

    If you want to understand the underlying psychology, this link ought to help. Women don't seek cads as dads, when they sleep with a 'bad boy' they want him to become a Raki or an Allen Walker - protective, masculine and not boring though sure to stick around. There's a reason why girls go for manga males who take part in battles, and not for fictional characters who start their own businesses or something.

    Ovulation Leads Women to Perceive Sexy Cads as Good Dads
    Kristina M. Durante et al
    http://business.utsa.edu/faculty/kdu...Investment.pdf

    "Women, of course, ideally want the best parts of both types of men in a romantic partner (Buss & Shackelford, 2008; Fletcher, Simpson, Thomas, & Giles, 1999). Thus, many women seek sexy husbands—men who are attractive, charismatic, and dominant, while also being faithful, reliable, and investing fathers (Li, Bailey, Kenrick, & Linsenmeier, 2002). However, because it is difficult to find and secure such an ideal mate, most women must make a trade-off between pursuing long-term relationships with men who are good dads versus short-term relationships with men who are sexy cads (Gangestad et al., 2007; Gangestad & Simpson, 2000; Li et al., 2002)."

    Where possible women go for bravery and kindness but if a woman has to choose then bravery wins out when women are most fertile.
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