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Thread: Air Gear 335 Discussion/ 336 Predictions

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    Re: Air Gear 335 Spoiler Thread

    @ DragonOsman2
    I find it interesting that Dr. Minami and Ikki talked recently.

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    "And despite missing one code, Dr. Minami still said that the Storm Regalia is "equal" to the Sky Regalia, which obviously has all eight. It's confusing."
    "And despite missing one code, Dr. Minami still said that the Storm Regalia is "equal" to the Sky Regalia, which obviously has all eight. It's confusing since Spitfire is saying that the Storm Regalia can't stand up to the Sky Regalia because it's missing one of the eight codes, and Dr. Minami is saying that both of the Regalia are "equal" (and, equal how, exactly, I wonder?)."
    I am waiting on SSA to read their translation, I am hoping that's where the confusion is coming from if you remember in ch 335 pg 7 the section with the flash back of Dr. Minami and Ikki at the aircraft carrier isn't translated.

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    Also, um, how is it possible that the ATs Sora is wearing right now are the Sky Regalia?
    I wondered this myself then I thought maybe, the Sky Regalia ATs that was referred too was just for the Lon Houtz Street battle. I could be wrong, but outside of Lon Houtz Street we haven't seen his regalia recently or (I know this is silly) maybe there is a Sky Regalia AT after all that can control Sky Link and everything else outside of the tower.

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    Sora's true goal is to save the 99% of the people in the world, which he refers to as the "bugs," the "defective goods". Somehow, I don't want to believe this

    This to me feels like Sora did a 360, in ch 325 p 17 when taking about the formation of Genesis Sora said "If what Spit said is true...then that "POWER" would become my biggest threat. That power belongs to me only". Sora has always seemed to be power hunger, now he is saying he did it for the better of humankind, this makes no sense. There is of course the possibility that Sora is just lying to the people.

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    If it's actually true, he's been going about it all wrong; in this case, the ends don't justify the mean
    Agreed.
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    Re: Air Gear 335 Spoiler Thread

    @Aikyet: The Wind Regalia already had all of those 20 cores combined into it when Sora was using it as leader of the old Sleeping Forest, since, if you recall, the Bagram (Wind Regalia's core) that Kilik destroyed was the one Tool Toul To took apart to make the new Wind Regalia. It's the same. Just so we're on the same page. So you're saying you think that my theory concerning the Sky Regalia is acceptable, then?

    And yeah, okay, thanks for the explanation about the code.

    @IKRG: We already should have known that they'd talked recently. We were shown it, while they were on their way to the aircraft carrier from the Sleipnir battle in those supersonic jets arranged by Aeon.

    Anyways, you could be right about the AT Sky Regalia. We'll see. I was actually expecting the AT Sky Regalia to exist, though, but had already pretty much discarded the theory before now.

    And yeah, it's true could just be spouting nonsense to deceive people, when he's saying he wants to be the savior of that 99%.
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    Re: Air Gear 335 Spoiler Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by DragonOsman2 View Post
    Also, um, how is it possible that the ATs Sora is wearing right now are the Sky Regalia? According to everything we've been told so far, the Sky Regalia isn't ATs, right? So what the heck? Up to this point, Sora was still wearing the Wind Regalia. If we are to assume that, along with the codes to the software that controls all ATs in the world, which is the software that includes the network Skylink and the cyber space Lon Houtz Bourne Street, the briefcase inside the bottom of the Tower also had actual ATs that one could refer to as the Sky Regalia, then I guess it's okay to say that Sora took those ATs. But what does everyone else think about this? Is that a believable theory?

    Let's just assume that the regalia that Sora is wearing is the Sky Regalia. Since he was the first one to unlock the codes, thus giving him the title, The Sky King. But as Simca said, it's not yet complete.

    And I also think that when you get to the next level, your regalia will change its form. (as stupid sounding as it is)


    Quote Originally Posted by DragonOsman2 View Post
    Another thing that I find to be interesting here is that, according to Spitfire, the Storm Regalia was made from 7 of the 8 codes and is missing one, which is that of the Thorn Regalia. How is it going to get the code from Rika's Thorn Regalia? Does she have to be beaten, too? If so, then where is she, and who is going to fight her? And despite missing one code, Dr. Minami still said that the Storm Regalia is "equal" to the Sky Regalia, which obviously has all eight. It's confusing since Spitfire is saying that the Storm Regalia can't stand up to the Sky Regalia because it's missing one of the eight codes, and Dr. Minami is saying that both of the Regalia are "equal" (and, equal how, exactly, I wonder?).

    As Minami said, he gave the code to Ikki in the plane before they arrived in the battleship. So he (Ikki) must have relayed the code to Kururu. Meaning! Ringo's Thorn Regalia is now also a legitimate Thorn Regalia. And Ikki, now has all of the codes in the Storm. So I think that's why a new road was born. And that's why the Storm is on par with the Sky Regalia, since both regalias have 8 bars in it. Hey, wait a minute, Ikki has the 9th bar, he SHOULD have the upper hand! WTF.

    And I also agree with Aikyet. Minami corrected him on what he (Spitfire) said.



    Quote Originally Posted by Aikyet View Post
    I don't know why are these Dragonfly guys are bothering with scanlate if they can't do nor a decent clean nor a clear translation. Just leave it to SSA.
    Precisely!

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    Re: Air Gear 335 Spoiler Thread

    I'm not buying that a Regalia actually changes form on its own, though I can buy that Sora took the AT Sky Regalia (if it does indeed exist) out of the briefcase with the codes for the Sky Regalia and combined it with his Wind Regalia.

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    Re: Air Gear 335 Spoiler Thread

    Pretty nice chapter. I was surprised by the Sora's declaration though. I wonder if OG got the idea from the OWS campaign or if it's just a coincidence?


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    Re: Air Gear 335 Spoiler Thread

    All dictators believe they're going to save the world from its evils. Stalin, Hitler, men like these always think they're the savior of the people. Sora's declaration is nothing more then the declaration of a despot.


    "Those who seek absolute power, even though they seek it to do what they regard as good, are simply demanding the right to enforce their own version of heaven on earth. And let me remind you, they are the very ones who always create the most hellish tyrannies. Absolute power does corrupt, and those who seek it must be suspect and must be opposed. "
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    Good point, though not everyone seeking power is seeking it to abuse it like Sora wants to, and there are people who wouldn't be corrupted if they got power like that. It's just that you can't really tell how a person is on the inside, how their heart is--as in, it's impossible to see someone to their soul, their core. So you can't really tell at first if the person getting the absolute power in question is going to be corrupted by it or not or if that person is going to abuse it or not. If you have enough resources and power at your own disposal to risk giving the guy power and see what happens (you could use the aforementioned power and resources to stop the guy from abusing the power if you can), then, but only then, would it be a sensible thing to do to let him have that power. Because you'd have a Plan B in case things went bad. But if you can't do it, then I'd suggest to not risk letting that person have the power and stop him/her at all costs.

    In Air Gear, Sora is definitely the kind of guy who would abuse the power, and Kilik was previously in a position where he had to choose whether to let Sora have the power or not. He choose to stop him, seeing as he knew from what Kaito told and showed him (the police files) that Sora was corrupt. But he was almost fooled because he considered Sora a friend at first. Probably still did, up until he died. Now Ikki has to stop Sora. And he's a Shounen hero, and also isn't an antihero type hero, so going by the norm in these sorts of stories, if Ikki were to get the Sky Regalia, of course he wouldn't abuse it. He'd be tempted, sure, and he also sure as hell will almost go over the edge of corruption, but in the end, he'll overcome it and use the Sky Regalia's power for good instead of evil. It's an unrealistic thing in stories, but they're still stories, so yeah. Though, of course, even if he gets the darned thing, we won't see much of it since the series would end soon afterwords, and also, I expect him to share the power with his allies (the power of the part of the Sky Regalia that isn't ATs, since we now can see that there actually is an AT Sky Regalia).

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    Re: Air Gear 335 Discussion/ 336 Predictions

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    But I find it interesting that what Dr. Minami talked to Ikki about in the plane ride to the aircraft carrier was the whole stuff about the runes, the Rune Futhark, and the ninth line. Ikki already knew this whole time, due to that, what that key was for. And are we to think that that rune, with the three lines, is the "ninth bar," despite being three lines in one rune? I'm kinda confused by that.
    It's not just three lines in one rune.

    The Rune-code is based on the original 9 bar formation.
    And each quantum rune is a combination of any number of lines from those 9.
    Think of an LED clock where all the numbers 0-9 can be formed from pieces of the number 8.

    Orca's key contained the 9th line, the single central vertical line.
    [ | ]

    As to why both regalias are 'equal', both have 8 of the 9 needed lines for the Sky regalia.
    Sora's contains 7 + Thorn
    Ikki's contains 7 + The Ninth Line
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    Re: Air Gear 335 Discussion/ 336 Predictions

    Did I miss something? Why did Sora want Yoshi's dead body?

    He was not a Gravity Child (Just the most BAMO in the series! )

    He better have treated that body with respect...
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    Re: Air Gear 335 Discussion/ 336 Predictions

    oyos

    it's probably because yoshi would be one of those '1%' that are not 'defective' because he was a intellectual genius plus he had the skills to fight on par with the gravity kids who were physically superior. that's the only reason i would think sora would pay any kind of respect to yoshi...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogueSleipnir View Post
    It's not just three lines in one rune.

    The Rune-code is based on the original 9 bar formation.
    And each quantum rune is a combination of any number of lines from those 9.
    Think of an LED clock where all the numbers 0-9 can be formed from pieces of the number 8.

    Orca's key contained the 9th line, the single central vertical line.
    [ | ]

    As to why both regalias are 'equal', both have 8 of the 9 needed lines for the Sky regalia.
    Sora's contains 7 + Thorn
    Ikki's contains 7 + The Ninth Line
    Dr. Minami told Ikki about the Thorn Regalia's code, too, didn't he? He said he told him about it on the jet plane ride to the aircraft carrier. I think Ikki may have told Kururu about the code, which she then may have inputted into the Storm Regalia. Meaning that it does have 8 codes plus the ninth line. Spitfire said that Ikki only has those 7 plus the 9th line, but Dr. Minami was correcting him when he mentioned that he told Ikki about the Thorn Regalia's code. Dr. Minami said that the Storm Regalia is "equal" to the Sky Regalia; I think he may have put quotes around the word equal partially because the Storm Regalia has one extra line on the code along with the other eight.

    @Suahnir: That's what I think, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epic_Rider View Post
    Pretty nice chapter. I was surprised by the Sora's declaration though. I wonder if OG got the idea from the OWS campaign or if it's just a coincidence?
    He probably got it there. As some readers are getting bugged by it on the other forum. There's nothing wrong with it btw. It's just the ideology behind it. I don't know why the others don't like it and making a fuss over it. Oh well...

    @rogueSleipnir: Ikki has the Thorn code. As Osman explained.

    @suarhnir: Agree also.

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    Re: Air Gear 335 Discussion/ 336 Predictions

    I fine it surprising all these event happening in just one day.
    Kougasamur training, Kurara receving Rumble ragalia to create the storm ragalia, kougasamaru facing/defeating Sleipnir, Attacking the Battleship, the defeat of nike and other gravity children, fall of sleeping forest, sora obtaing the sky ragalia, and Ikki obtaining the Storm Ragelia, and now Ikki vs. Sora
    All that happen in on day.

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    Re: Air Gear 335 Discussion/ 336 Predictions

    oyos

    you forgot to add osaka getting attacked and benkei trekking through the night to reach koga's base to hand them off the rumble regalia... because technically osaka was attacked around and a little after midnight.

    so in the span of 24 hours we covered chapters 232 thru 332, that's 100 chapters over the span of roughly 2 years of publication (attack on osaka to sora vs sf)... we don't know exactly how many hours have passed but its definitely still morning (late morning) by the time ringo and ikki have broken into the tower.

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    Re: Air Gear 335 Discussion/ 336 Predictions

    Yeah, up to now it's been two days since Kururu (yeah, it's Kururu, not "Kurara;" what's with all the misspellings?) got the Rumble Regalia. The battle between Sora and Sleeping Forest took place at midnight, so it's actually the day after that right now, meaning two days have passed since the day Kururu received the Rumble Regalia.

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