Fairy Tail 259 Discussion / 260 Predictions

[RaveDragon]

I knew porylusca wasn't human but this is WOAH OMG is that my jaw down there?!

Oh and i love the cover chapter

Gildarts went away? :[ i'll miss him but I guess till there's Master around there aren't any substitutions worth thinking of after all we kept on thinking of makarov as the master in the end...

It seems its finally the dragon arc, so we might see the other dragons in their human form if they decide to show up...

[GomuGomu_Getsuga]

I don't care that Natsu has lightning to boost his powers now. It's not like he has all of Laxas's attacks or anything. This also doesn't make Laxas obsolete. He's a fake dragon slayer anyway. Natsu is the main character and I think it's good he finally received some sort of power-boost that will last longer than one fight.

I guess Max being this strong isn't too bad, but that mean Laxas, Erza and Mira aren't that strong anymore either.

[1337 haxor]

I have a theory, it's very crazy but it would explain everything.

The dragons live in another dimension, the dragons slayers trained for years in there but regressed to children upon returning to the human world, this dimension is called the ultimate magic world.

Think for a second, how can Porlyusica warp between Grandeeney and herself in seemingly an instant? How come the dragons were gone from the world but allowed Acnologia to stay behind and do as she well damn please?

Simple! They can't do anything because they are not part of this world!

Igneel, Grandeeney and Metallicana only exhist as dragons in the ultimate magical world whereas their Earthland selves are humans who can't fight Acnologia on their own.

It occurs to me now that Zeref is the first dragon slayer, the one whom Acnologia brought to the Ultimate magical world centuries ago and whose insane power managed to summon her from there to Earthland.

The truth is that the dragons never disappeared, they were never there to begin with, they simply brought their choosen children to the ultimate magical world during an event that occurs every seven years connecting both worlds and trained them like hell before reinserting them to the human realm.

Time pass differently in these two realms, whereas Porlyusica ages like a normal human, Grandeeney can live for centuries in the magical realm.

The dragons in the real world can all but acess a fraccion of their magic, in the ultimate magical world "where all of the lost magic manifests in it's full power" they truly become dragons because that's the nature of Dragon Slayer magic; to turn people into dragons.

So far the dragons choose their successors in the human world and train them in the magical realm so that, when their human lifes come to an end, the dragon slayers will assume their place as new dragons of their respective elements.

If we were to se things under this view, it could very well be that the true form of the celestial magic Lucy holds is something godly in the magical realm. More than that, the fact celestial spirits can travel between dimensions seemingly unrestrained might indicate they are the key to opening the gates to the magical realm.

If my theory hold true then it would explain why dragons teach dragon slayer magic to humans and also why Acnologia sees them as insects compared to the strenght she possesses in her dragon form.

[LoS]

How typical, over 7 years of course Mashima would have the other members catch up to those members in stasis. Basically this is what I was not looking forward to, starting over at a clean slate, where Natsu and co would have to power themselves up during this "second part". It kind of cheapens the entire first part where we saw Natsu and co. all progressively getting stronger through such difficult trials, now they are hardly ahead of the other guild members sort of just how the series started. They are no longer at the very top echelon of strong magic users, they will have to continue getting stronger.

I just don't like how since the resolution to Tenrou Island this manga has become a reboot, starting over. It shows that the events on the island weren't wrapped up well enough. As a side note, this is just me personally, but I didn't like Natsu still using Lightening. I'd rather have him stay just a Fire Dragon Slayer.

[Lee-tyme7]

Does this mean Natsu is also a dragon in human form? So is Wendy & Gazeel. It could be the other way around. That would be crazy. It's kinda funny to see Natsu losing to a FT fodder like Max...who is he again? His magic is speed, right? Why does Natsu still have Luxus lightening magic? Did Luxus transfer his DS magic to Natsu now? Don't get me wrong but I think that's kinda cool to use both lightening & fire like that but it could only be use at a critical situation because since it used up too much magic from Natsu. Other than that this chapter was good story development.

[kidopitz27]

if that old Lady is the wind dragon then ... well they already went to a parallel world so it's not impossible that Dragon's are in a parallel world and the human counterparts exist in Natsu's world

what if Natsu is been trained in the dragon's parallel world and that world don't have time like Natsu feels like he aged to a Teen but in the Earthland time he's already 80+ years old

but a big lol on the early scans is it really Flavor? or the correct one is "Sounds" like?

now the Restriction Spell Freed used is getting somewhere

http://www.mangareader.net/135-7223-...apter-108.html

and also i'm i sensing the Lumen Eitole is like in dragon ball "Hyperbolic Time Chamber"

[1337 haxor]

Does this mean Natsu is also a dragon in human form? So is Wendy & Gazeel. It could be the other way around. That would be crazy. It's kinda funny to see Natsu losing to a FT fodder like Max...who is he again? His magic is speed, right? Why does Natsu still have Luxus lightening magic? Did Luxus transfer his DS magic to Natsu now? Don't get me wrong but I think that's kinda cool to use both lightening & fire like that but it could only be use at a critical situation because since it used up too much magic from Natsu. Other than that this chapter was good story development.

In given time Natsu, Gazille and Wendy would really become dragons, however, that can only happen in the magical world and only after they mastered their DS abilities to a great extent.

Ultimate magical world allows for Lost Magic to assume it's full power that is otherwise supressed by the boundaries of Earthland, since DS magic transforms the user into a dragon then a master of that magic would become a dragon upon entering that realm.

More than that I think the dragons are the guardians of the magic world, they are the only ones who can transit between both worlds and in case the ultimate magical world is breached they would have full power to face against those trying to attain the Magic of One.

Zeref would be Acnologia's successor as Life/Death Dragon but the later manipulated the young apprentice into reaching the Magic of One and releasing Chaos upon the world.

This may also have caused realities to split between Earthland and Edolas.

Originally magic was very rare in the world because the world of magic and the Magic of One were tightly held in place separated from the human world.

However, when Acnologia betrayed the other dragons and used his pupil to unleash the magic of one all hell broke loose.

Reality itself split and Edolas was formed as an untainted version of the world where magic was a rare commodity and getting it was something of royal caliber.

This is why Wendy is older in that world, because that world was never tainted the dragons didn't need to take humans to the magical world and train them into new dragons.

Since Wendy wasn't taken by Grandeeney to the magic realm, where aging is separated from the human realm, she progressed into her natural age.

Take note that even if someone spends centuries in the magical realm, as would Grandeeney and Ingneel in their dragon forms, they doesn't age an inch in the human realm so that an 18 years old teenager would return as an 18 years old teenager even if he became an 80 years old man in the magical realm.

So, as Edolas became an world untainted by magic, Earthland became the escape valve for the crack in the magical realm.

This is why magic is unlimited and inate in Earthland, there is a rupture to the magical realm somewhere and every 7 years it dumps more magic upon the world prompting the rise of new powerful guild, organizations and so on.

Back to Zeref and Acnologia, it's safe to assume that, if Zeref touched the Origin of Magic even for a split second that gave him enormous amounts of knowledge from all sorts of lost magic besides DS.

Hence why he was said to have mastered all the forms of black magic from an early age and unleashed all sorts of atrocities upon the world.

As for Acnologia, the former dragon of life was painted black for her ultimate sin, however, she was unbound from the limitations of the human world and manifested her full dragonic powers in the human realm.

Since a complete dragon is immortal; they may spend eons in the magic realm with no signs of aging, night invulnerable and almighty powerful. She, who was already the strongest dragon, became nearly godlike and unchallenged in the human realm.

The other dragons, still limited to their human forms and a fraccion of their power in the human world, cannot face her off directly so they hoped to train a new generation of dragons whose combined strenght could match that of Acnologia and release the world from her grasp.

It may also be possible that when Acnologia betrayed the other dragons she sealed them up in the magical realm so that Zeref and her would remain unopposed forever.

Yet, someone whose surname was Heartfilia managed to set them free so that they could proceed to recruit DS and start their plot to defeat the Black Dragon.

[exacta]

How typical, over 7 years of course Mashima would have the other members catch up to those members in stasis. Basically this is what I was not looking forward to, starting over at a clean slate, where Natsu and co would have to power themselves up during this "second part". It kind of cheapens the entire first part where we saw Natsu and co. all progressively getting stronger through such difficult trials, now they are hardly ahead of the other guild members sort of just how the series started. They are no longer at the very top echelon of strong magic users, they will have to continue getting stronger.

I just don't like how since the resolution to Tenrou Island this manga has become a reboot, starting over. It shows that the events on the island weren't wrapped up well enough. As a side note, this is just me personally, but I didn't like Natsu still using Lightening. I'd rather have him stay just a Fire Dragon Slayer.

The whole idea of Lightning Fire made me want to bash my head against the computer the moment Mashima thought of it.......also, Mashima better have an explanation for why Natsu retained this powerup. Why did he keep this form, but not the Etherion or Golden Flame form? And Laxus gave his magic to Natsu....so how can they both have it? Laxus said he gave every remaining bit of his magic to Natsu, and theres no way Mashima took away his magic. Theres a big plothole here.

[LanceX]

The whole idea of Lightning Fire made me want to bash my head against the computer the moment Mashima thought of it.......also, Mashima better have an explanation for why Natsu retained this powerup. Why did he keep this form, but not the Etherion or Golden Flame form? And Laxus gave his magic to Natsu....so how can they both have it? Laxus said he gave every remaining bit of his magic to Natsu, and theres no way Mashima took away his magic. Theres a big plothole here.

Theres no way Laxus Magic is gone. I think He meant all of his remaining power he had at the moment. Not his actual abilities taken away. I assume as long as the lacryima or whatever is inside him hell have his lightning.

Laxus with no power would be sad and pointless. Now....lightning flame dragon is pointless. I have a feeling These modes are going to be like Rasengan :P

[ShoobyDooBop]

It's good that they know that they are too weak in the world now.

Ex of our master. xD and LOL, Makarov is the master again. With the way Makarov offered the job for Gildarts, I didn't expect he would run away. But, we'll see him again. When the time to fight Raven Tail comes. Gildarts have some issues with Ivan after all.

99% sure Porlyusica is Grandine. With the title of the chapter, her face expression, and what Wendy said.

[Krono]

The whole idea of Lightning Fire made me want to bash my head against the computer the moment Mashima thought of it.......also, Mashima better have an explanation for why Natsu retained this powerup. Why did he keep this form, but not the Etherion or Golden Flame form? And Laxus gave his magic to Natsu....so how can they both have it? Laxus said he gave every remaining bit of his magic to Natsu, and theres no way Mashima took away his magic. Theres a big plothole here.

It's very simple. Natsu is a mage. His power is not something like a devil fruit, or elemental chakra, or a mutant power that he has and cannot change. It's something he was taught. As such it's entirely within his ability to use entirely different magics, or as we've seen a couple times before now, vary his dragon slayer magic.

In the case of the Etherion and the Golden Flame, the only thing they did was provide him with a massive influx of power, to push him to levels he hasn't naturally achieved yet. Laxus's power on the other hand not only gave him a power boost, it modified how his magic was working. The power from Laxus was used up, but Natsu remembers how it felt so to speak, and just had to modify his magic to duplicate that feel. Of course while he can duplicate the effect, he doesn't have any additional power, so the result is less and it tires him out quicker.

In short, the lightning added effect was something that Natsu never needed to eat lightning to do, he just needed to know how. Having done it once by accident, he figured out the how.

99% sure Porlyusica is Grandine. With the title of the chapter, her face expression, and what Wendy said.

Actually, while chapter 258 said chapter 259 would be title Sky Dragon Grandine, what it actually ended up being title was Porlyusica. Make of that what you will. Personally I figure that either Mashima or his editor decided that was too grand a title for a chapter where Grandine didn't explicitly appear.

[kakashidad]

How typical, over 7 years of course Mashima would have the other members catch up to those members in stasis. Basically this is what I was not looking forward to, starting over at a clean slate, where Natsu and co would have to power themselves up during this "second part". It kind of cheapens the entire first part where we saw Natsu and co. all progressively getting stronger through such difficult trials, now they are hardly ahead of the other guild members sort of just how the series started. They are no longer at the very top echelon of strong magic users, they will have to continue getting stronger.

I just don't like how since the resolution to Tenrou Island this manga has become a reboot, starting over. It shows that the events on the island weren't wrapped up well enough. As a side note, this is just me personally, but I didn't like Natsu still using Lightening. I'd rather have him stay just a Fire Dragon Slayer.

I might get in trouble for this...but dude,Is there no joy in your life?You always come
in here and project nothing but negativity?Can i read something that you've done that's
superior to ft?..your prejudices are getting too much..sigh.

[Newkerzy]

MS version is out: Mangastream

Apparently, the "fanart" we all saw at mangafox was actually a movie promotional. Hopefully someone translates it..... 'cuz it looks like there's gonna be some good NaLu moments.

[Skyguardian]

Reread Mangastreams Version again. That reminds me to never read a mangareader release again...

For the movie. The NatsuxLucy Picture was awesome. Can someone translate it? Kinda wanna know which bastard made Lucy cry...

For the reread...
I like the new outfits of the maincast. But could Wendy at least get back to release her hair? The pigtails are overused now...

The phrases made more sense. Natsu can't control the Lightning Mode. He releases all of it's magic power at once instead of balancing the outburst.

If FT wants to get back to the top then Makarov should do as he wanted and take back the old building. The repairs don't cost money. They have magic anyway. Baki just uses her woodstyle to make new furniture. Biggest reason is the underground though.

So this chapter jumped from Master 3 to Master 6. They should erase the former 3 to get it back in order. At the moment it's as stupid at the Hokageappointments after Tsunades unconciousness in Naruto.

The chapter is still called Sky Dragon Grandine. Porlyusica's eyes seemed weird anyway. They didn't seemed very human to start with...

Next week we'll get to know how FT will be back as No. 1. Regarding the style of the manga they will we back as the Topguild by the end of the arc.

[Atobe the king]

Good chapter, i lol'd at natsu getting owned....

funny way to do it...
-Natsu on a base level getting owned
-Pulls out lightning dragon to show that they're still some of the "stronger" FT members

The gold here is natsu saying "just now" when asked when the hell could he do that normally.

I just hope the impending hell training arc isn't too long