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Thread: Can the Elder be beaten?

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    Re: Can the Elder be beaten?

    http://www.mangastream.to/historys-s...2-page-15.html

    Is that it? The guy is supposed to be quite a powerful master overall.
    http://www.mangastream.to/historys-s...9-page-14.html

    Isn't he a member of the OSNF equivalent of the armed division? I don't think he can hold a candle to the elder though, he was only skilled enough to escape him, not fight him.

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    Re: Can the Elder be beaten?

    Yeah he's the one. But the Elder was so worried about that.. Probably the leader of that Group that guy is in can be stronger than the Elder...
    http://www.mangastream.to/historys-s...9-page-14.html

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    Re: Can the Elder be beaten?

    It seems that both top unarmed and armed Masters are under the rule of Saiga Furinji the One Shadow, so I doubt that these armed Masters have another leader. It seems that they are as equal as Nine Fists. At least as I've understood it from the manga.

    About the guy that managed to escape Elder... Well, I believe he is quite powerful, but I highly doubt that he would be able to defeat Elder unless he shows something onscreeen. As of now I doubt there is anyone who can individually defeat Elder. Maybe Saiga at best. And I even doubt that he can. The only option that I see is if he and Mikumo will gang him. Then it's quite possible that they can defeat Elder.

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    Re: Can the Elder be beaten?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorge D. Dragon View Post
    It seems that both top unarmed and armed Masters are under the rule of Saiga Furinji the One Shadow, so I doubt that these armed Masters have another leader. It seems that they are as equal as Nine Fists. At least as I've understood it from the manga.

    About the guy that managed to escape Elder... Well, I believe he is quite powerful, but I highly doubt that he would be able to defeat Elder unless he shows something onscreeen. As of now I doubt there is anyone who can individually defeat Elder. Maybe Saiga at best. And I even doubt that he can. The only option that I see is if he and Mikumo will gang him. Then it's quite possible that they can defeat Elder.
    I think so too.. I"m just trying really hard to find someone that can beat the Elder and shake my belief... Not even cancer (saying it again) can beat the eldler........ and I doubt he will be like Yamamoto in bleach.... Cause if someone can beat him, then there's no hope for Kenichi to be in the manga and aspire great heights..hahaha.. since the highest was already beaten.. (i don't knkow what i'm saying with the last sentence..LOL

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    Re: Can the Elder be beaten?

    Well, I actyually can see Kenichi getting quite strong overall in some time in the future. Of course not at Elder's level, but at least comparable to his Masters.
    Tanaka is quite an example that it is possible. When we first met Tanaka he was obviously stronger than Kenichi or Miu, but the differense wasn't that overwhelming and he wasn't that close to Master level. At the same time, when he fought Kensei, he practically managed to match him. And Kensei is not even at a simple Master level, but a Super Master level. So Tanaka managed to grow enormously. So I think through the manga Ken-chan can achieve not only a Master, but a Super Master level. Of course I doubt he would be able to match or surpass Elder, but I don't think he would need this.

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    Re: Can the Elder be beaten?

    I'm thinking Saiga is going to be stronger at one point. And since the last chapter we know there's other "invincible supermans" equal to the elder. So my guess is yes.

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    Re: Can the Elder be beaten?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimtors View Post
    Yeah he's the one. But the Elder was so worried about that.. Probably the leader of that Group that guy is in can be stronger than the Elder...
    http://www.mangastream.to/historys-s...9-page-14.html
    the recent chapter shows this

    an armed yomi who is very strong complete ki mastery

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    Re: Can the Elder be beaten?

    Quote Originally Posted by alisdfd View Post
    the recent chapter shows this

    an armed yomi who is very strong complete ki mastery

    wow.. i didn't know i called it..hahahah

    Probably this guy, like i said weeks ago, can beat the elder... but i hope not, cause if that was the case then, Ryozanpakou won't stand a chance.hahahaha

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