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Translations: Bleach 595 (2)
Ok, if everyone recalls we saw some time ago zancrow, someone who claimed to use god-slaying magic in what seemed to be the same context as natsu used dragon slayer magic. What does using dragon slaying magic entail? Dragon slayers mimic the power of dragons in order to defeat dragons (interestingly, the magic itself is not a creation to defeat dragons in itself but rather it bestows the user with powers of dragons). The users body becomes like that of a dragon and it mimics its magic. Now, if we apply the same logic to the god slayer we get that the god slayer immitates the powers of gods in order to defeat gods.
Now, as far as what we saw there are three things which lead me to believe we should take the whole god slayer thing somewhat seriously.
The first is that when zancrow fought natsu we saw that it was plainly obvious that zancrow's fire was superior to that of natsu. This is evidenced by the fact that natsu could not eat zancrow's flames while zancrow was able to more than easily eat the dragon flames.
The second is that natsu was able to use this flame to combine it with his own to make an even stronger flame which zancrow himself could not it. If the flame was not something special it would not have resulted in something which could defeat zancrow that fast (it would have been interesting to see zancrow using natsu's flame to make dragon god's flame however it would seem at the time he either was to arrogant to do that or perhaps since he was still using his magic (when natsu used zancrow's flame he kinda emtied himself) he was not able to combine it).
The third is what hades said about the origin of the magic of the seven kin. He mentioned specifically that the lost magic of the seven kin was close to the source of magic. In this regard we get that god slaying magic, the power of gods, is close to the source. This would be quite significant overall.
Now, even though the word "god" is usually a bit too much I think we have to put it into context. By a god the manga does not necessarily point towards the traditional definition of the word as an omnipotent all-knowing being. The fact that there is a god slayer implies that there is a creature which is being imitated by the god slayer (as is the case with dragon slayers). The name "god" could simply be what enourmously powerful ancient creatures were called in the past. Dragons at some point were said to rule the earth, perhaps before them were this very power beings.
Anyways, I think the whole god slayer thing could easily have some deep implications in the future, specially if zancrow was indeed imitating the power of a creature.
While that is a good theory, I doubt we will see God Slayer anymore. But I do believe it is the product of an ancient "creature" or being that was once superior to dragons. Either that or it was an ancient and more advanced form of Lachryma.
The lost magics were really interesting and mysterious, especially the three arc magics, and while I said I doubt we will see more of them, I kind of hope your right and we will see them in the future.
Well, we don't necessarily have to see any more god slayers, the implications of the existence of "gods" could easily lean to somewhere else. Even if we don't see any more god slayers, how about seeing one of the actual gods? Not sure how this would be set up in the manga though, a god slayer would be by all intents and purposes at least as powerful as a dragon to say the least which would be fairly difficult to defeat. The implication of the power of a god being close to the origin of magic can have very interesting ramifications depending on how mashima plays it.
Ahh, I see what you are saying. Yes, I could see that happening. But as you said it depends on how Mashima plays it. That seems like it would be something after the dragon plot is finished. Something like the Dragons and their students team up to face the old gods.
dude, read chapter 218 again..there was no real god that taught zancrow, god slaying magic..he just considered hades as a god..
True, but Hades could have learned about and studied the magic somewhere else. Since he was looking for the source of magic, he could have come across information that told him about godslaying magic and it's properties, which he passed on to Zancrow.
A self proclaimed "god-slayer"is just a wizard with a powerfull magic with a godcomplex.
Actually that's quite an interewsting theory. As we see now the strongest beings for now are Dragons and thus for now the strongest oponent should be Acnologia, but if she isn't the last boss of the manga? Actually after several Arcs there is a posibility FT will fight against Acnolgia again, but at the end I believe we'll learn that there is something beyond her and that will be the moment we'll find about stronger being such as "God" or "Demon King".
Actually it looks quite like Rave Mashima's previous work.
but I don't know if Zeref is the Source of magic....because HADES said he was searching for the Magic of one..and then he found Zeref...Blunote also said something like if u trace any magic....it will all lead to one single magic...so I guess that is Zeref.
I don't think it was said hades learned everything from the book of zeref. It is implied the book has a number of spells but in the end it was never elaborated on whether the magic of the seven kin came from there. I also have my doubts of zeref being the source of magic. It is perhaps likely that zeref was the one who discovered magic or its source though. Another interesting thing about this whole thing is that zeref appears to be a dragon slayer, the dragon slayer of acknologia. If zeref is a dragon slayer, then isn't it a bit weird that god slaying magic is superior to DS magic? In this regard perhaps neither of them is superior to the other but rather the supposed gods are simply creatures of roughly equal power to dragons but of different species.
But if something similar happened to Zeref...? Maybe he's both dragon slayer of Acknologia but also managed to find the source of magic, stared into it and went insane from it.
Could imagine him being raised evil and powerful from Acknologia alone.
Then after staring or touching the source of magic, he went "nuts" to boot and way more powerful.
*Shrug* who knows.. but about the god slayers, seemed self proclaimed indeed, or someone clueless named him. There is no way to be sure though.. can't wait for next chapter, hopefully we get some tiny clues for this huge puzzle..
Zacrow did not "imply" he was a god slayer, he flat out stated it. That is his magic in the same way natsu is a dragon slayer. Obviously hades is by no means or in any form a god but that is not the point at all. The manga points to zancrow acquiring the power of "gods" for the purpose of slaying gods which is conceptually the same thing DS do with dragons. Now, within the context of the manga "god" would just be a name (either given or adopted) to some powerful ancient creature. We are not necessarily talking about the traditional definition of "god", just am obscenely powerful creature which could potentially compare to a dragon. Zancrow did compare hades to a god however it is painfully obvious that hades is by no means the creature whose power zancrow mimics. In this regard zancrow is a god slayer whether he was taught the magic by hades or not. Zancrow's comment on hades is not evidence that he in his lunacy named his magic that way, that is simply the name of the magic taught to him by hades. The manga gave the proper names of every magic grimmoire heart used. There is no real reason to assume zancrow was the only one who lied.
zancrow is just a poser.