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    Re: Bleach 474 Spoiler Discussion

    1) "Oh, surprise, ohana posts Bleach first!"
    2) "She says 'It's interesting!!!!!' with 5 exclamation marks!"
    3) *google translator*

    UKITAKE IS THE MASTERMIND BEHIND THIS PLAN *faints*



    ...I have hard time believing though. Must be a lie. That Ginjo.


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    I LOVE UKITAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

    He's back to the story. Through Ginjo's dirty mouth, but he's back.

    And i don't believe in his words. Ukitake is too sweet and cool.

    Discuss the yaoi side of Shingeki no Kyojin and Kuroko no Basket at the Boys Love section.

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    Re: Bleach 474 Spoiler Discussion

    Oh No!! I don't want Ukitake to be a bad guy....... he too sweet for that......

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    Re: Bleach 474 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Asclepius View Post

    I LOVE UKITAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

    He's back to the story. Through Ginjo's dirty mouth, but he's back.

    And i don't believe in his words. Ukitake is too sweet and cool.
    Aizen was sweet and cool, look how he turned out!!

    I guess it isnt exactly out of the blue IMO, Aizen did address Ukitake at the end of SS arc (maybe im remembering wrong). I wonder what this actually means though :P Maybe he works Directly for the Spirit king?

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    Quote Originally Posted by espadaboyzz View Post
    Oh No!! I don't want Ukitake to be a bad guy....... he too sweet for that......
    IMO it would be bad writing if he was the bad guy lol
    "Man hands misery onto man" - Philip Larkin

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    Re: Bleach 474 Spoiler Discussion

    omg... if Ukitake really is a bad guy... Then the plot is exactly the same as with Aizen lol... -_-
    The guy looks great, friendly, etc. and turns out to be some crazy bastard? Please not that again... :/

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    Re: Bleach 474 Spoiler Discussion

    I feel trolled again.
    But I wait for the actual chapter. Regarding Ukitakes disease... He should go down

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    Re: Bleach 474 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by jaymizzo View Post
    Aizen was sweet and cool, look how he turned out!!

    I guess it isnt exactly out of the blue IMO, Aizen did address Ukitake at the end of SS arc (maybe im remembering wrong). I wonder what this actually means though :P Maybe he works Directly for the Spirit king?
    Thanks for mentioning it
    I 've reread the ending of SS arc and indeed, it could mean something.
    Now that we know that 'the one pulling strings was Uki', it indeed sounds like Aizen and Uki could be working together (under someone). Maybe they were spies under the King?
    So Ginjo could actually be siding with the King against.. Isshin? SS? Ichigo's powers?
    But Aizen discovered that the King is 'xxx' and he decided he'll go against him.

    Or, Uki and Aizen were working under someone else, against the King, but then Aizen though it'll be easier when he'll side with hollows. What is against the rules of SS, and probably against the rules of whoever he was working under.

    Or they weren't working under anyone, just them.

    Or.

    Damn, I'm excited.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darjaille View Post
    Thanks for mentioning it
    I 've reread the ending of SS arc and indeed, it could mean something.
    Now that we know that 'the one pulling strings was Uki', it indeed sounds like Aizen and Uki could be working together (under someone). Maybe they were spies under the King?
    So Ginjo could actually be siding with the King against.. Isshin? SS? Ichigo's powers?
    But Aizen discovered that the King is 'xxx' and he decided he'll go against him.

    Or, Uki and Aizen were working under someone else, against the King, but then Aizen though it'll be easier when he'll side with hollows. What is against the rules of SS, and probably against the rules of whoever he was working under.

    Or they weren't working under anyone, just them.

    Or.

    Damn, I'm excited.
    It wouldnt exactly make sense if they were working together, more that they were aware of or answered to someone higher. i.e the Spirit king, Maybe Aizen defected because the King decided something retarded and Ukitake didnt question his thoughts etc.

    Uki could be the one reporting back to the King about everything thats happening or maybe he and Hikifune are working towards something. IMO it would be very bad writing if Aizen and Ukitake worked together or had the same goal.

    My opinion is that Ginjou will tell Ichigo about the Royal dimension and how they are going to order the Gotei destroyed because they let a hybrid into the team (essentially).. Well thats what ive been thinking anyway, thats the only good way to introduce the Royal dimension, have them slaughter a few Shinigami lol
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    Re: Bleach 474 Spoiler Discussion

    Well, it says Ukitake is originator of the plan, does that plan involve Ginjo and fullbringers, or is Ginjo talking about him as he is the bad guy (which i seriously doubt), if he is bad guy then he is probably working for soul king, and thats probably because soul society would crumble without him, that wouldnt make him bad and it would mean he is with rest of SS because they work for him too, now if Ukitake is together with fullbringers that is something else, and his plans originate from when he gave Ginjo his substitute shinigami badge, and who in the world knows whats his plan, well we need a lot more details than this, i hope Kubo wont troll like Ginjo talks like 3 sentences in entire chapter with full of pictures and in the end he mentiones Ukitake as cliffhanger (talk about fast storytelling)

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    Re: Bleach 474 Spoiler Discussion

    A couple of years ago I made a post about my theory that he was the mastermind...... But no-one listened :P I posted this pic as evidence, kubo does nothing without a reason....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bleach_captains.jpg
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    Re: Bleach 474 Spoiler Discussion

    Ukitake?!?!?! If he is then .... Bleah forget it, its imposible...

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    Re: Bleach 474 Spoiler Discussion

    I don't think it'll be all that sinister of a plan i think it was just to get his powers back, and i think ginjou had plans of his own. Why would ukitake give ginjou some of ichigo's powers? it doesn't make sense. this is suppose to be a short arc after all. If ukitake is indeed the mastermind then what about shinsui. those two are always involved with each others plans. I just think he knew about the full bringers and how the badge could be used. After all he was the one to give the badge to ichigo. Did ukitake know that ichigo would eventually have to use mugetsu against aizen and lose his powers? If so that means he knows ichigo's father. Maybe Ichigo's father has been working with ss all along and that's why we never saw them make a big deal about it when he showed up to fight aizen and when they all gave powers to that sword....
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    Re: Bleach 474 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by jaymizzo View Post
    It wouldnt exactly make sense if they were working together, more that they were aware of or answered to someone higher. i.e the Spirit king, Maybe Aizen defected because the King decided something retarded and Ukitake didnt question his thoughts etc.

    Uki could be the one reporting back to the King about everything thats happening or maybe he and Hikifune are working towards something. IMO it would be very bad writing if Aizen and Ukitake worked together or had the same goal.

    My opinion is that Ginjou will tell Ichigo about the Royal dimension and how they are going to order the Gotei destroyed because they let a hybrid into the team (essentially).. Well thats what ive been thinking anyway, thats the only good way to introduce the Royal dimension, have them slaughter a few Shinigami lol
    I think Uki and Aizen could be working together (under someone) until the point where Aizen decided that he'll side with hollows. Then they could see he's cruel and sick and all that, and I doubt Uki is like that.

    Interesting point also, Ichigo got his badge from Uki (and Ishida knows something is wrong with the badge thing), so I guess Ginjo got the badge from Uki too and that's how he got involved.

    The more I think about it, the more I like where this is going.


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    Re: Bleach 474 Spoiler Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Asmodan View Post
    A couple of years ago I made a post about my theory that he was the mastermind...... But no-one listened :P I posted this pic as evidence, kubo does nothing without a reason....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bleach_captains.jpg
    In my opinion when that picture was released ukitakes identity wast revealed. its the same trick kishimoto used in naruto with akatsuki, showing pein and konan facing away. I dont think its some conspiracy theory.

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