Senju/Mokuton confusion ?

[GPM]

the assumption we know until now is how to get the rikudo power? The rumor is combining the power of senju + uchiha, because they known as the descendant of rikudo's child. They have strong blood connection. Then how about another clan? there are other clans with the same powers and strong connection, ex: hyuuga and uzumaki. So, my theory is to achieve rikudo power is not easy, although you have two clan which came up rikudo's child. In this case, madara's eye of uchiha and hashirama's body of senju are those close with rikudo's child power. If someone can find a way to combine this power, maybe he can produce shinobi like rikudo madara. It isnt like if you combine uchiha ordinary power + senju ordinary power or hyuuga ordinary power + uzumaki ordinary power, you can produce rikudo madara. It isnt like that. The point is you 're need two powers which are close to rikudo's child power instead of clan. Madara's eye is not uchiha ordinary power, it is close to first son. Madara's eye resembles sage eyes and spiritual power (susano'o). Hashirama's body is not senju ordinary power, it is close to second son. Hashirama's body resemble sage body and energy life (mokuton).

Dont see why uchiha and mokuton can produce rikudo , but madara's eye and hashirama's body! Madara's eye is EMS with Susanoo power which come from spiritual power. That's why susanoo has ethereal body. Hashirama's body is mokuton. hMMM and i think mokuton is not simple as water+earth. You need something to combine it to produce mokuton. Combining Water+earth can produce mud. So, to produce mokuton you need energy life. Like naruto kyuubi mode which has great energy life, it will affect mokuton growth.
Maybe if hyuuga has secret recipe to boost their sage eyes power to come close with rikudo power and then uzumaki too, they can produce rikudo power.

yaa...this is my theory

[Lemonadez]

Everyone keep saying that Senju Harashima is sage body.

No Senju Harashima never posses sage body like Naruto does. Senju Harashima cant control biju like BEE or Naruto, Harashima isn't a Host. Maybe you all forgetting that reason why Harashima was able to control 9 tails.

Because His wife Uzumaki Mito was the 9 tail host and Harashima uses the necklace to supressed the 9 tail. It doesnt say there that he can control it, It was only a legend through The necklace that Harashima manage to supressed which is not control, so his wife mito who can transform to biju without a problem, so Harashima can supress the 9 tail chakra so Mito would not loose control?. so basically its similar to control but its not Senju Harashima whos controlling the 9 tails.

Like Tobi who can give them command to attack. It was never shown that Harashima can do this through the necklace.

Reason Madara was able to use Mokotun was not because of Senju power, it because he awaken his Rinnengan that make him able to use any Ninjutsu in the world that has been created. Since it stated there that Rinnengan can use any element ninjutsu.

[GPM]

Everyone keep saying that Senju Harashima is sage body.

No Senju Harashima never posses sage body like Naruto does. Senju Harashima cant control biju like BEE or Naruto, Harashima isn't a Host. Maybe you all forgetting that reason why Harashima was able to control 9 tails.

Because His wife Uzumaki Mito was the 9 tail host and Harashima uses the necklace to supressed the 9 tail. It doesnt say there that he can control it, It was only a legend through The necklace that Harashima manage to supressed which is not control, so his wife mito who can transform to biju without a problem, so Harashima can supress the 9 tail chakra so Mito would not loose control?. so basically its similar to control but its not Senju Harashima whos controlling the 9 tails.

Like Tobi who can give them command to attack. It was never shown that Harashima can do this through the necklace.

Reason Madara was able to use Mokotun was not because of Senju power, it because he awaken his Rinnengan that make him able to use any Ninjutsu in the world that has been created. Since it stated there that Rinnengan can use any element ninjutsu.

Hashirama has sage body, if not, why danzo want to combine hashirama body with sharingan? Danzo right shoulder has face like hashirama. Madara too has part of hashirama body in his body. In some previous chapter, madara was open his armor to see his body while he got talk with kabuto about hashirama power *forget the chapter.
And the reason why madara can use mokuton is he has hashirama power from body of hashirama not from rinnegan. Although you has rinnegan, it doesnt mean you can directly use all jutsu, to use all jutsu, u need learn first. Another logic is if rinnegan can use mokuton, why nagato dont use it??? Mokuton is more effective then chibaku tensei to capture kyuubi then. Mokuton is stick to hashirama body, so if u have the way to use hashirama body, u can use mokuton too, but remember tobi said, it is not easy to control hashirama power.

[xXan]

The sage is Uchiha + Senju but Jin of the 10 tails. The senju do have the body but to really become the Sage you also need Uchiha + 10 tails. Aparently that is what Tobi is after (i belive that more then the "moon eye plan" to make the world into zombies).

[Lemonadez]

Hashirama has sage body, if not, why danzo want to combine hashirama body with sharingan? Danzo right shoulder has face like hashirama. Madara too has part of hashirama body in his body. In some previous chapter, madara was open his armor to see his body while he got talk with kabuto about hashirama power *forget the chapter.
And the reason why madara can use mokuton is he has hashirama power from body of hashirama not from rinnegan. Although you has rinnegan, it doesnt mean you can directly use all jutsu, to use all jutsu, u need learn first. Another logic is if rinnegan can use mokuton, why nagato dont use it??? Mokuton is more effective then chibaku tensei to capture kyuubi then. Mokuton is stick to hashirama body, so if u have the way to use hashirama body, u can use mokuton too, but remember tobi said, it is not easy to control hashirama power.

Harashima does not poses sage body. Here the guy already answered.

The sage is Uchiha + Senju but Jin of the 10 tails. The senju do have the body but to really become the Sage you also need Uchiha + 10 tails. Aparently that is what Tobi is after (i belive that more then the "moon eye plan" to make the world into zombies).

Yeah that why Harashima never able to poses Sage Body and control Nine tails. Because Harashima does not poses Sharingan or Rinnengan. Or does not even poses Kyubi inside his body like Naruto.

If you think Harashima have sage body? Then I would say Uzumaki clan have sage body because Harashima body works similar as Uzumaki clan with long life span.

The Sage body is Naruto, It was clearly shown there that Naruto unlock sage body because of draining kyuubi chakra that give him a sage body look.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v53/c499/10.html <- clearly you can see Naruto trying to pull 9tail chakra.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v53/c499/11.html <- there naruto manage to drain kyuubi chakra.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v53/c499/12.html <- look what happen to Naruto, Sage body.

Here in Chapter 505 Title "Release kyuubi chakra".
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v54/c505/7.html <- You can clearly see Naruto trying to use kyuubi chakra.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v54/c505/8.html <- Clearly Naruto Explain that this is how he look like when he used kyubi chakra. Sage body...

So pretty much Senju harashima never poses Sage Body. Even on databook or Manga it was never said that he poses sage body. We also have no way to describe what Harashima body is, its kinda similar to Uzumaki clan lineage, they have long life span and we have no other info about them, but both clan were distant relative, So that probably how Harashima body have similarities to uzumaki lineage.

Just because "Senju Clan" was born with the "body" of the Sage, from Six Sage himself does not mean all Senju clan poses Sage body, Tobirama doesn't even have it or Tsunade and both were blood related from Shodaime.