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View Poll Results: What do you think about Gotei 13?

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  • Gotei 13 is doing the right thing

    16 44.44%
  • Pawns of EVIL

    9 25.00%
  • I am confused

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Thread: Gotei 13 - Good or Evil?

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    Re: [FEATURED] Gotei 13 - Good or Evil?

    Whether Gotei 13 is good or evil, Ichigo doesn't have hard feelings for them. He appreciates what they did for him to pay off their debt and he knows they didn't leave him totally in the dark. I think we won't see Gotei 13 as the evil party again, we've already been there. I don't read as much manga as some of you do but I don't recall any enemy (from main character's POV) that turned into good and then bad again and fought the main character once again.

    IMHO Urahara isn't evil either. Urahara had hogyoku, he had the opportunity to do what Aizen did, to use hogyoku to create chaos but he disposed of it instead. If you're evil, you must be out of your mind to get rid of hogyoku and Urahara is anything but stupid. Perhaps he has done questionable things in the past (I wonder if he fed souls to his hogyoku lol), they say science is curiosity but I think he is at his core a good man.

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    Re: [FEATURED] Gotei 13 - Good or Evil?

    Quote Originally Posted by Miyagi View Post
    Whether Gotei 13 is good or evil, Ichigo doesn't have hard feelings for them. He appreciates what they did for him to pay off their debt and he knows they didn't leave him totally in the dark. I think we won't see Gotei 13 as the evil party again, we've already been there. I don't read as much manga as some of you do but I don't recall any enemy (from main character's POV) that turned into good and then bad again and fought the main character once again.

    IMHO Urahara isn't evil either. Urahara had hogyoku, he had the opportunity to do what Aizen did, to use hogyoku to create chaos but he disposed of it instead. If you're evil, you must be out of your mind to get rid of hogyoku and Urahara is anything but stupid. Perhaps he has done questionable things in the past (I wonder if he fed souls to his hogyoku lol), they say science is curiosity but I think he is at his core a good man.
    Not to forget he could probably create another if he wanted.
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    Kubo is the master of creating evil characters that in the end aren't evil or not "that" evil...

    Ishida was a light bad guy in the beginning (very short time) --> they became friends.
    Soul Society evil --> turned out good (for now).
    Renji and Byakuya were seemingly evil --> Turned out to be good.
    Ulquiorra, Grimjow and other Arrancars turned out to be "somewhat" good in the end as well.
    Aizen even turned out to be a less of a bad guy, he wasn't evil, but very lonely.

    Now Ginjou starts to turn good, when Kubo try to make us understand him, seemingly he got an Aizen complex, being lonely.
    Soul Society seem to remain good, but were twisted for a few chapters.

    It's just, hardly anything in Bleach remain evil, it's always turning good.
    Even Aizen, who was the only seemingly good guy to turn out to be a bad guy, but then in the end showed to just be lonely...

    I mean, if Sou Society is evil, I'd eat my hat, it's not Kubo's style.
    As much as I like Bleach though, I find it a bit lame we don't have true evil villains in Bleach, hopefully the final villain turns out to be truly evil.

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