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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 327 Discussion / 328 Prediction

    Gyo can be in any part of the body. It's usually in the eyes but that's not
    Quote Originally Posted by Phantron View Post
    In/Gyo mechanism is pretty much like an equivalent of "No rush" in a RTS. When two high level characters meet there's an implicit implication neither will ever use In so they don't have to spend the whole time showing Gyo on their eyes either, because otherewise the whole fight would just be about In/Gyo and you'd never see anything else, because as soon as you miss an In, you'd be dead.
    In that you're mistaken. Biscuit almost was ANNOYINGLY when repeating that ANY strange move of the opponent demanded instant Gyo. Same as sustained Ren. And it's not only because of Bomber: ANY battle needs a fast analysis so that is a given.
    It's a completely newbie mistake to not use it.

    And I still believe all techniques (Shu, In, En, Ren, Ten, Gyo, Kou, Ryu) function with levels. If two Nen users of the same school and with the same strength uses Shu in two identical swords and clash each other the one who have a better Shu will win and broke the other one.
    An example of levels was En of Meryem and Pitou. They both use it very differently, but Meryem in the second form was able to feel even texture. And it was stated as EN and not something else. It was a whole new level. Pitou in the side of the "still doable" had an En that worked as radar with a peak. That's a new level of En.
    Even amount of Aura determine the levels of the basic techniques.

    IMHO.
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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 327 Discussion / 328 Prediction

    Sometimes people here get really obcessive with some details and kind of ruin the joy of the discussion...

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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 327 Discussion / 328 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by Uriel View Post
    Gyo can be in any part of the body. It's usually in the eyes but that's not

    In that you're mistaken. Biscuit almost was ANNOYINGLY when repeating that ANY strange move of the opponent demanded instant Gyo. Same as sustained Ren. And it's not only because of Bomber: ANY battle needs a fast analysis so that is a given.
    It's a completely newbie mistake to not use it.

    And I still believe all techniques (Shu, In, En, Ren, Ten, Gyo, Kou, Ryu) function with levels. If two Nen users of the same school and with the same strength uses Shu in two identical swords and clash each other the one who have a better Shu will win and broke the other one.
    An example of levels was En of Meryem and Pitou. They both use it very differently, but Meryem in the second form was able to feel even texture. And it was stated as EN and not something else. It was a whole new level. Pitou in the side of the "still doable" had an En that worked as radar with a peak. That's a new level of En.
    Even amount of Aura determine the levels of the basic techniques.

    IMHO.
    The problem with In/Gyo is that although the story tries to make it sound like you use Gyo to counter 'weird stuff' so therefore you can potentially beat Gyo by pretending you're not doing anything 'weird', if you look at the definition of In, it is pretty much a guaranteed kill move if not countered.

    Let's say you're fighting Franklin. He does his aura machine gun, but you don't have Gyo on, and you only see 9 aura bullets. Where is the 10th one? He's hidden that with In and that just shot you through the head, and now you're dead. There is absolutely nothing 'weird' or 'strange' about such an attack. It can be a perfectly valid opening move and without Gyo you'd have died against his first attack.

    When Hisoka raised his hand against Kastro he shot the bungee gum to Kastro's jaw, and that was hidden by In. Let's say you've Zeno in this position. He has identical school type as Hisoka, so all his tactics should be valid in Hisoka's position. What if he just do his dragon projectile attack (hidden by In)? Then that'd just blow off Kastro's face and he'd be dead, and he can't dodge it since he didn't see it either. From Kastro's point of view you'd just see this guy that has a standard one hand high one hand low that looks roughly like a clawing stance. Sure you can say Zeno has to gather more aura to do that attack compared to Hisoka's bungee gum, except In hides aura so you still won't be able to see the difference.

    The problem is that while Togashi may want us to believe you only use In on sneaky type attacks, given the definition of In (hides aura signature), there's no reason to not apply it over perfectly straightforward attacks either. Since Gyo is presumably physically viewable, you don't even have to guess. If you don't see the other guy's eyes glowing then he's not using it, so that means you should use In immediately. There seems to be some kind of implicit assumption like "In cannot be directly paired with a lethal ability" (though I can't imagine why Chain Jail isn't considered lethal), but even if you materialize a normal rock and throw it at someone's face, with HXH level strength, that'd probably be fatal if not detected.
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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 327 Discussion / 328 Prediction

    Thing is that if you don't use Gyo you WONT see ANY attack. Period. And Zeno probably uses In as well, the only fight we saw was with a high leveled Nen user.

    And I'm sure you noticed that since (and with) Chimera Arc, Togashi has making it granted that they mostly uses Gyo in every fight. It's implied.
    The Sky is pouring
    The wind is blowing
    The sea looks red,
    a surging sea of flames
    looks like the entrance to hell
    'Perfect', the captain said.

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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 327 Discussion / 328 Prediction

    Using Gyo. .with Hisoka. .is almost useless due to the nature of bungee gum ....

    you can avoid it if he somehow trow the aura 2 you... but since stick to the enemy with mere touch..

    even blocking is useless..... you have to avoid ANY PHYSICAL contact at ALL ..with HISOKA..

    an almost impossible task...all this was explained on heaven arena vs gon..

    is old news..
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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 327 Discussion / 328 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by Federicoxxx View Post
    Using Gyo. .with Hisoka. .is almost useless due to the nature of bungee gum ....

    you can avoid it if he somehow trow the aura 2 you... but since stick to the enemy with mere touch..

    even blocking is useless..... you have to avoid ANY PHYSICAL contact at ALL ..with HISOKA..

    an almost impossible task...all this was explained on heaven arena vs gon..

    is old news..
    Anyone who is physically stronger can simply pull the gum in the opposite direction (i.e. versus clone #13 on Razor).

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    Re: Hunter x Hunter Chapter 327 Discussion / 328 Prediction

    Quote Originally Posted by THM Nindo View Post
    Make sense.
    But, the payment for that wish might be very very big.
    But thats the beauty of it, would there be a payment once her own Nen Power is removed? The payment comes after the wish so if the wish is made and her power is taken away, then in theory the price would never happen.

    HxH tends to be a bit morbid at times but it is still Shounen and I can't see them hurting Killua's character in the way that it would be damaged if something were to happen to Alluka, it would destroy him and probably cause him to lose all of the "normalcy" that he has gained with Gon since the start of the series.

    What I'm interested in seeing is what the "price" will be for curing Gon. Another thought about the whole situation, could it be possible that Alluka can pay the price for the wish herself? Theres tons of ways they can go with this.

    I highly doubt Killua's family would have any issues with Alluka losing his/her powers since it removes the risk of him/her killing the family. It is possible that nobody has ever thought of asking Alluka to remove his/her own powers or Killua's extra knowledge of the rules allows him to find a loophole.
    Last edited by Lightmgl; December 09, 2011 at 07:10 AM.

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