Joy boy and the promised day!

[kkck]

Ok, now the manga has mentioned the importance of noah, joy boy and an imminent promised day at which a promise is meant to be kept and noah used. We also have the revelation that the noah was meant to be moved by the gargantuan sea kings on this day. With this it is quite evident that the key to the promised day is shirahoshi who is in fact able to control the sea kings. Basically, it will be shirahoshi to order the sea kings to move the thing and fulfill the promise made to joy boy.

Now, what could be the purpose of noah in this regard? It is a boat so it is obviously meant to be sailed and given its huge shape and size it would seem evident it is meant to have a significant amount of cargo. In this regard, the only logical use noah could have is a massive evacuation, the evacuation of fishman island.

Now, why would fishman island be evacuated? Even if the bubble is destroyed the fact of the matter is that fishmen would still be able to live underwater. The bubble basically is not esential and I would argue they could have alternatives such as bubble domes (as we have seen). Now, why would such a massive evacuation be necessary under these scenario? For an evacuation to be completely justified fishman island would have to become so unlivable that it would justify evacuation 5 million citizens plus the citizens of the fishmen district.

Now, what event could force such a thing? I can only imagine one scenario. As of now what makes fishman island inhabitable at all are the roots of the eve tree which carry light from the surface. In this regard, I believe the promised day is the day when the eve tree finally dies and by extension fishman island becomes uninhabitable.

Now, the question is why exactly the eve tree would be destroyed. It could simply be too old or perhaps someone will want to do it for whatever reason. The wood would appear to have special properties (as the adam tree) so it is not that out there that someone would come up with a reason to destroy it.

What does everyone think?

[rosco12]

My idea was when the prophecie that Luffy would destroy FI, what would actually happen is that Luffy wouldn t destroy FI while he was there but instead much later. I thought after finding One Piece and learning the true history the SH would go to Mariejoa along with there allies and fight the world government. During the fight Luffy would destroy Eve's Tree and by doing so also FI.

[Uriel]

Noah was made to charge One Piece to Mariojea.
A war will be occur in FI after Luffy reaches Raftel and He will be forced to destroy the island. Fishmen are more related to Void Century that we actually credit them for.

[kkck]

^Well, the issue is that if this happens after reaching raftel is that the manga should end at that point. More so, luffy would have to get back to FI which would be quite literally at the other end of the world. More so, in itself destroying the island would not make the place uninhabitable as I pointed out. Why would the fishmen leave the place if there is a way for them to continue living there? I think the promised day is actually a lot closer to current events than to the end of the manga. There is also another thing worth pointing out. Within the next few chapters luffy will effectively enter the new world. From that point onward it would be very difficult for luffy to actually go to majiroa if he gets farther and father away. IMO it is very likely that once they arrive to the next island they are immediately forced to go to majiroa. In that regard it is entirely possible luffy will actually destroy the eve tree there and thus fishman island.

[Kukriblades]

This could be me alone, but I think "the promised day" = the day when One Piece is found.

[k-dom]

Even if it's not to evacuate the island, i think the ship will at least serve as an embassy for fishmen to meat human and maybe travel around the world.
I have no idea what the promise could be. But I find interesting that neptune knows about something written on a ponegliph. It means that fishmen may reveal things about void century to robin

[kkck]

This could be me alone, but I think "the promised day" = the day when One Piece is found.

Unlikely to say the least. One piece is a relatively new thing which was left behind by roger 24 years ago. Joy boy and the ship would seem to be hundreds of years old. Only way this would be possible is that roger found something joy boy left behind and hid it for some more time until the promised day which would be strange as if roger found whatever would bring forth the promised day it would have happened already right? I get the impression the promised day is something independent of the one piece aspect of the storyline for the most part.

[Ginopastino]

I agree with Kukriblade... I think Sodoma and Gomorra carrying the Franky Family serves as a possible example of the way Noah Ark will be used. I'm going to further explain :

Whitebeard said that "The day One Piece is found all the world will be engulfed in a war" so IMHO is safe to assume that Fishman Island will be fighting too.
However since there is nobody but fishmen and mermen on the ocean floor, who will Fishman Island will be fighting with? I think the most obvious explanation is that Fishmen will have to surface to fight someone else and what will be the quickest way to make 5 million people surface? OBVIOUS : By carrying them all with a coated ship, Noah.
Therefore this poses the problem of the mean of propulsion this ark will use. Leaving it surfacing due to the Archimede Force won't be a possible explanation because, one surfaced, the ship wouldn't have a way to move. Sea-current propulsion won't be flexible and powerful enough to move such a mass.

So : Sea Kings will move the ship and Shirahoshi aka Poseidon will be piloting it, nothing new until so.

But "one more thing" came up in my mind... and it is about another Ark we know of : MAXIM ARK. Read further please :
Skypiea and the other sky island are obviously part of OP world, so :
WHAT IF... Maxim blueprints ( like Pluton's ) existed BEFORE Enel's birth and are not a product of Enel's mind? What if Enel corrupt mind or absence of proper knowledge about world history made him misunderstand Maxim's purpose and tweaked its original project to serve his evil intents? What if Original Maxim would have been to be built to serve the same task of Noah, carrying Sky people to the ground in order to allow them too to fight the war?

Following the same thougt... What if Pluton is the "Grand Line's people ark"? The ultimate ship that will carry them to the ultimate war?

[kkck]

I don't think the arc would be required to carry an army if it comes to that. Fishman island has some 5 million citizens but only a handful of them are actually soldiers. Based on what we have seen they would not need something as massive as noa to carry an army as an army would require significantly less space than that. Noah in the end is actually large enough to every citizen of fishman island. More so, if there is a war the safest place to be would be 10 km below sea level right?

Now, another consideration. During the ennies lobby arc we actually saw bits and pieces of whatever the blueprints contained. In the end, if we pay attention it did look remarkably like noah and enel's arc. Maybe noah is meant to be moved by sea kings however it itself does have the capacity to destroy stuff? Basically, could it be that noah is meant to be a dormant weapon meant to be commanded by shirahoshi?

[k-dom]

I don't think the noah is a weapon and i don't think that the promise was something dangerous. Do you think that Neptune would continue to care that much if it was that kind of promise ?

[hoeru]

Just waking up from some CRAYZEE dream: Could "Joy Boy" be an ancestor of Dr. Vegapunk?

[GiantAlienHamster]

Now, what could be the purpose of noah in this regard? It is a boat so it is obviously meant to be sailed and given its huge shape and size it would seem evident it is meant to have a significant amount of cargo. In this regard, the only logical use noah could have is a massive evacuation, the evacuation of fishman island.

Now, why would fishman island be evacuated?

The question is not "why would fishman island be evacuated?" but "why would fishmen need a SHIP?" they can swim, they can't drown, they can basically live in the water. This ship wasn't built for simply carrying fishmen around who could just swim anyway. It may be used to carry humans though, maybe after some other island will be destroyed (Raftel/Unicon? Marie Joa? who knows...)

[kkck]

The ship would only be fit for humans if it had air but that would leave the question of why a boat meant for humans would be 10 kms under the sea away from any human survivors. I don't think a potential evacuation would be as easy as you say though, I don't see it as a matter of just swimming away. It'd be like saying millions of people could just walk away from a natural disaster. Such an scenario would be dangerous, chaotic and would likely result in many casualties. If we were talking about a few hundred or even a few thousand people evacuating it would be viable but in this case a potential evacuation of fishman island would be one of over 5 million people. Noah in this case would go as far as being not only means of transportation but also a refugee camp considering its sheer size. Majiroa would be particularly unreachable to noah for the most part. Isn't the red line several kms tall? How would the sea kings ever take noah there? Even if noah could be taken there, as we saw it does not even float, how would the nobles survive in it? Oda said in the SBS that bubbles in fishman island are the same as the ones in SA meaning that they should just pop when away from the trees which produce the resin.

[GiantAlienHamster]

Ships only need air bubbles if they are used under the water. But most boats (at least in this world) are used above the surface... and so will be Noah once taken up by the seakings. Marie Joa was just one example of many many many possible examples (there are hundreds of islands!) and it would of course require the red line to be taken down first (literally!! - now that would be fun).
I doubt it would be that much easier an evacuation to tell millions to get ALL into ONE boat while time is running out. Now that would be a LOT of queuing, wouldn't it?
And I still don't see, why fishmen would need a boat after that anyway. Sorry for being stubborn in this regard, but there MUST be more to this ship than simply being a huge ship to carry people around who could just swim for themselves anyway

[Black Lagoon]

Ops!!! didn't see this thread :

Epic Ending

Just a thought about Joy boy's promise : It's said that he lived during the void century, and it's known that a lot of twisted things happened then and i think mentioning a war during that century is normal, so what if Joy Boy wanted to hide that power (Ancient Weapon) in the ocean floor in order to keep it out of the war and the fishmen race followed their princess (since she's the Weapon) but he was never able to return ... I mean, that could be the promise (Return to bring them up again), and i think he couldn't keep his promise because of the aftermath of the war (the winner wasn't the one that should have won).

And now, as somebody already mentioned in the thread, The Ancient Weapon is there ... Luffy is there So ... DAMN!!!!! ODA-SAMA you made us feel again