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How do you feel about Tyrion's persistent feeling towards Jaime ?
Will Varys be able to come back to light ? I feel like he is doomed and I also feel that Daenerys won't be kind with him if they ever meet each other despite the fact that the eunuch supports her. She has enough with the manipulations and the fact that Varys was there when the order to kill her has been sent won't make him more trustworthy.
I've decided to ignore this thread until I finish the fifth book
Just don't open the spoilers
Actually some of my spoiler tags have contained non-second half material, so I'll try to include you better
Yeah I realized with my Illyrio thing that it wasn't spoilerrific for niichan so I removed them. You're welcome
As long as Cersei came out before Jaime, he'll pass for a "little brother". It's too obvious that it's Tyrion, so GRRM could pull a more vague meaning of little brother by saying that Jaime came out second and is thus second in line, despite them being twins. But it could be what you're saying. It's a little intriguing to see Cersei's fall when she's constantly trying to prevent by working against the prophecy, but it's happening anyway.
Jaime was clearly pissed about Joff. Although it was more of a thing right then and there. But I think it was more about Jaime having believed in Tyrion, only to have Tyrion spit him in the face with his lie. When he asked "I must know, did you do it?" and Tyrion lied "yes <insert vile description and comment by Tyrion>", Jaime "replied" by just turning and walk away without a word. It's not the type of reaction that says "I don't give a shit". I think Jaime confirmed with himself that he truly did not care as he often questioned himself that he should, but became angry at having believed in Tyrion for nothing. Sort of a betrayal of trust. As for Tywin who knows... Jaime seems kind of indifferent mad at Tyrion to me when he thinks about him. Even calling him "imp" sometimes in his thoughts, which is a mocking name he knows Tyrion hates. But from Jaime's part I don't think it's something he can't forgive.
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Actually about Jon, Gary. I always thought he was Azor Ahai Reborn after Jon had the dream about himself with a flaming sword defending the Wall. But after reading this article the evidence is almost daunting. Read the tag for a short version (the whole article is amazing, so you should at least read the part about Jon. The first part is about Dany being PtwP). Link. Here's the main short version:
I assume those leaked chapters you mentioned aren't out in all their glory? Only Theon, and then the Victarion reading + summary, and summary of rest? Where's the summaries?
Omg, your sig! So fucking awesome.
It's too bad I can't read this thread anymore. Don't want to be spoiled.
But yeah, I believe Theon I is the only that's been seen in it's entirety. Can't wait until end of August to get the paperback and find out who he's previewing.
Still found it from page history. Pretty detailed summaries of Tyrion and Victarion I. Victarions sounds badass.
And yeah, Cersei born before Jaime. Or I think I recall something along those lines from her chapters. "I was born first, I should have been trained to become Lord of Casterly Rock" or something like that. Not sure though.
I think she said she should have been born a man. Which is during her most bitter time when Jaime was away and Tyrion had gone missing.
...or was that Tywin who said she should have been born a man?
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Well then if she really went outside her mother's womb first then I guess Jaime will truly be the one to kill her. Oh wait, is there really a little/big bro/sis when we talk about twins actually ? I didn't pay attention to that.