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Thread: What is the Purpose of Noah and Poseidon?

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    What is the Purpose of Noah and Poseidon?

    First I want to ask you:

    Why would fishmen or mermaids need a ship?

    Well, my answer is, it will take them to the planet neptune. Moon was once inhebited in op verse, there are a lot of aliens and neptune will be full of water in OP - a perfect place for them and probably the only safe place for shirahoshi if WG finds out about her.

    It's crazy but remember:

    Enel is on moon now.
    Maxim was a spaceship.
    Noah was pbbly build by the same people who built the porneglyphs and they were all vegapunk level and better.
    ship+fish=spaceship
    the weapon's name is the name of their destination.
    Shirahoshi is an ancient weapon...
    people live on clouds
    a mad man is a black hole
    ...
    ..
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    You think I'm crazy?

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    Neptune is the Name of the Mermaid King...

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    More so, noah is meant to be moved by sea kings. How are those guys supposed to take noah to neptune?

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    My theory is that the "promised" time is when the Noah will carry the Fishman to the surface... and the princess will be told by "the one who will guide her" to take them there.

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    if sea kings can fly they can take them to that planet but that's why they are called "SEA" kings

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    This is a silly thread, if you read greek mythology Neptune and Poseidon were related, thus Oda adding a father and daughter. Shira can and cant be directly referred to as Poseidon for 2 reasons.

    1. she is a woman. In the myths, its a man.
    2. she has a power to destroy the world, which is controlling all seakings.
    in this case in considered godlike.

    Second of all the Maxim was a joke, for Enel who claimed to be a God which is also a joke.
    That little arc fufilled its mission, being on the moon. Totally unrelated to the Noah.

    If anything, since the king closed off FI, Big Mom may show up and the real problems may occur. Noah will be used to transport a whole race of fishman to another place for safety and to start life all over again
    Last edited by modoki; December 13, 2011 at 10:36 AM.

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    Quote Originally Posted by modoki View Post
    This is a silly thread, if you read greek mythology Neptune and Poseidon were related, thus Oda adding a father and daughter. Shira can and cant be directly referred to as Poseidon for 2 reasons.

    1. she is a woman. In the myths, its a man.
    2. she has a power to destroy the world, which is controlling all seakings.
    in this case in considered godlike.

    Second of all the Maxim was a joke, for Enel who claimed to be a God which is also a joke.
    That little arc fufilled its mission, being on the moon. Totally unrelated to the Noah.

    If anything, since the king closed off FI, Big Mom may show up and the real problems may occur. Noah will be used to transport a whole race of fishman to another place for safety and to start life all over again
    but why would fishman need a ship? Why should seakings pull this monstership underwater if this whole race of fishman can swim...

    Well i just made this theory because itdoesnt sound crazier than shirahoshi being poseidon .-. noah doesnt make sense at all, my theory doesnt make sense, so it will happen

    shirahoshis power is too powerful, it will be just fine if she leaves that planet with seakings.i wouldnt be surprised if seakings can fly, there are so many miracles in opverse, well, everything is possible...

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    Quote Originally Posted by modoki View Post
    This is a silly thread, if you read greek mythology Neptune and Poseidon were related
    That doesn't add much to this thread, but I wanted to make this clear:
    Neptune and Poseidon are not related, that's simply ONE AND THE SAME PERSON. Poseidon is just the Roman name for Neptune.

    I think a lot of people in this forum have pointed that out allready...

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    Quote Originally Posted by GiantAlienHamster View Post
    That doesn't add much to this thread, but I wanted to make this clear:
    Neptune and Poseidon are not related, that's simply ONE AND THE SAME PERSON. Poseidon is just the Roman name for Neptune.

    I think a lot of people in this forum have pointed that out allready...
    you mean neptune is the roman name for poseidon

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    Neptun and Poseidon arent the same... Greek and Roma had their own gods...
    Not the same gods with different names... Even if theese gods were both gods of the same thing. (God of the sea in this case)

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    ^Are you kidding? It is well known the romans adopted the greek gods except they gave them roman names. They are by all intents and purposes the sames guys lol.

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    I know what you mean, but thats not completely true.
    The Roman Culture mor or less just "Copied" their Gods from other Cultures, and then stated them as their own Gods, thats why they renamed them.
    This was called the "Interpretatio_Romana" see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpr...#Roman_version

    Well ok, its easier to say that these are the same, but different named. But then you deny all the differences between the cultures.

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Mirror View Post
    but why would fishman need a ship? Why should seakings pull this monstership underwater if this whole race of fishman can swim...

    Well i just made this theory because itdoesnt sound crazier than shirahoshi being poseidon .-. noah doesnt make sense at all, my theory doesnt make sense, so it will happen

    shirahoshis power is too powerful, it will be just fine if she leaves that planet with seakings.i wouldnt be surprised if seakings can fly, there are so many miracles in opverse, well, everything is possible...
    They do not need a ship. But the Pirate King will. A gigantic arc drafted by a team of sea kings sailing into battle against the world government is as deadly a weapon as I could imagine. Noah was left with the fishman because Shirahoshi, as the ancient weapon Poseidon, and her descendants have the power to summon and command the Sea Kings who could then pull Noah. Of equal importance: the World Government would never find Noah at Fishman Island, nor discern it's real significance. To the unknowing Noah appeared as an ancient shipwreck and nothing more.

    All three of the ancient weapons were designed to defeat the World Government. They were left for a future hero (Luffy) to wield against the World Government. This is the likely significance of Raftel: It is likely the home of the final Poneglyph. Being at the end of the Grand Line/New World any pirate who reached Raftel would have had the opportunity to read the rest of the Poneglyphs. Anyone who reached Raftel could learn the final secrets of the Void Century and of the ancient weapons. There is little doubt Roger new these secrets and that this is the One Piece, the ability to defeat the World Government. Rogers was to sick, to near death to do so himself. By turning himself in he was able to preserve the secrets of the Void Century and leave them to someone who could use them. I doubt that any of the ancient weapons will be used for interplanetary travel though. That would not make very much sense in the context of the story.
    Last edited by Kaiten; December 19, 2011 at 01:24 AM.

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    I doubt any Pirate King would need Noah, especially not for that reason since pirates don't directly try and overthrow the World Government, as someone like Dragon is trying to do.

    The only reason I can think of for Noah's purpose is the obvious, to move a massive amount of people from point A to B. My guess is that it's going to be highly important when the Straw Hats eventually reach Raftel.

    Edit in response to your edit:

    Why does the World Government need overthrowing?

    Also, I doubt anyone needs those weapons to beat the WG. If the Yonkou decided to gather together and take it on they'd probably horribly crush them.
    Last edited by Zatono; December 19, 2011 at 01:27 AM.

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    Re: Noah is a spaceship and will take them to Neptune (planet)

    Calling the ship Noah does imply that a large number of living things will take refuge on the ship. But I don't know as Sea Kings would be needed were it merely a transport. The Sea Kings and Poseidon make it sound like a weapon of war as well as a transport.

    While not a revolutionary, Luffy has already challenged the World Government twice: the assault of Enes Lobby and the war at Marineford. He will likely confront them again, probably multiple times before the manga ends. I don't believe it will end at Raftel either, nor will it end with Luffy becoming Pirate King. I think he will play a central role in the fall of the World Government. And at some point Luffy and Dragon will meet, we do not yet know how the Revolutionary Army and Straw Hats will interact but it would be reasonable to predict close ties. Dragon is Luffy's father, Robin spent the last two years training with the Revolutionaries, Ivankov has befriended Luffy, and Kuma proved to be friendly. Sabo is likely a revolutionary as well.

    ---------- Post added December 21, 2011 at 05:14 PM ---------- Previous post was December 19, 2011 at 01:35 AM ----------

    While a nice theory, I changed the thread title to allow for slightly broader discussion. Any theory about Poseidon and Noah is welcome.

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