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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    This is what makes it so damn weird that Akainu let Aokiji live. It wouldn't be too hard for anyone to find out his links with and sympathy for Robin; he was doing things like leaving lines of ice in the sea for hours, or conveniently freezing up ships rudders, without caring much about covering his tracks. If he quits the Marines he is a threat to them, and everyone knows how Akainu deals with threats.

    He would be more likely to join the revolutionaries than run a Pirate crew. But then we only ever see him acting alone, until the war, so may be more in character not to join anyone. Also conveniently the one who he'd be most likely to make contact with (Robin) was elsewhere when they were talking about him.

    Garp was retired and training the next generation (Read: Coby massive power-up) wasn't he? Wouldn't take much provocation from Akainu for him to go AWOL though.
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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    Why would Akainu have left him alive with the knowledge that he would have to kill him anyway later on? That doesn't make sense, I don't see Akainu being the aggressor until Kuzan acts first and than it would be to late already. It's not like he was prestigeless himself, he probably had a lot of supporters too, just not as many as Sakazuki with his deeds in the war.

    About him going alone everywhere, that could have just be his privilege as an admiral, to conduct secret operations alone. That way he has got at least some time alone and wont be shadowed/observed by anybody else. And it's not like he has shown too much mercy towards the Mugiwaras with all the freezing to near death.

    Garp and Sengoku retired so that they don't have to grapple with the whole Akainu situation. What could Akainu now do, that he hasn't in the last two years[and war], that would make them rage so much to against him? If anything, I would say they are already doing something or they won't until the final showdown of the manga. Garp should have stopped him right there[the war] if he knew, that one day even Luffy could be killed by those hands too.
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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatosk View Post
    This is what makes it so damn weird that Akainu let Aokiji live. It wouldn't be too hard for anyone to find out his links with and sympathy for Robin; he was doing things like leaving lines of ice in the sea for hours, or conveniently freezing up ships rudders, without caring much about covering his tracks. If he quits the Marines he is a threat to them, and everyone knows how Akainu deals with threats.

    He would be more likely to join the revolutionaries than run a Pirate crew. But then we only ever see him acting alone, until the war, so may be more in character not to join anyone. Also conveniently the one who he'd be most likely to make contact with (Robin) was elsewhere when they were talking about him.

    Garp was retired and training the next generation (Read: Coby massive power-up) wasn't he? Wouldn't take much provocation from Akainu for him to go AWOL though.
    I think killing someone, if he really was in a position to do so, like Aokiji wouldn't have probably sat well with most other Marines. Mainly because Aokiji didn't do anything wrong, and simply seems to have challenged Akainu to a battle for leadership that Akainu accepted. Aokiji is a big name among the Marines and killing him for power would have looked really, really bad. Going after pirates is one thing, but going after your own when they haven't committed a crime is a whole other thing. By accepting the challenge, defeating him, and then letting him live Akainu then comes off as being someone who values and acknowledges what Aokiji has done for the Marines. Its a sign of respect. However I think it was mainly a political move to let Aokiji live, if in fact Akainu could have killed him at the end. That way he saves faces inserted of looking like a power hungry murderer.

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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    Until we know more about the fight that sounds reasonable. It is already known that Akainu allowed Aokiji to live out of respect. Connecting the dots a little, it would make sense as a political move: demonstrating to the rest of the Marines that he is a man of honor and justice. Conversely it could also be an insult, Akainu sending the message that Aokiji is not even worth killing. We could also factor in ego. Akainu, having already defeated him so thoroughly may believe he could do the same should Aokiji ever become a threat.

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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    I know people love the idea of Aokiji joining the Straw Hats, but I think it's a little crazy. I'm not saying a marine becoming a pirate is ludicrous as we have Drake as Exhibit A. What I mean is, Aokiji is just too strong for the Straw Hats. Beside that, we don't know about his past or if he has a dream. Unless Luffy gets a major power increase by the next time he meets the former admiral and at the same time, we learn if he had a dark past, then I'll believe it.

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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    in aokiji's childhood illustration...he looks pretty poor. a dark past? your guess is good as mine.

    and if jinbei is qualified to join SHs what stops aokiji from joining? just because he's strong? well, SHs needs to be strong in new world anyways. and its not like every strawhat could be a monster...so far its only sanji, zoro and luffy who can really be up there in terms of fighting. (no disrespect to brook, robin and franky fans though, but they will forever have the weaker villains than those previous three i mentioned...)

    if strawhats would fight the gorousei (which i think are hellbent strong) one-on-one....there are only 3 capable guys...and gorousei are 5. just sayin.

    i wouldnt close a door for "aokiji, smoker or anyone else insanely strong" to join the crew.

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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    Quote Originally Posted by beck26 View Post
    in aokiji's childhood illustration...he looks pretty poor. a dark past? your guess is good as mine.

    and if jinbei is qualified to join SHs what stops aokiji from joining? just because he's strong? well, SHs needs to be strong in new world anyways. and its not like every strawhat could be a monster...so far its only sanji, zoro and luffy who can really be up there in terms of fighting. (no disrespect to brook, robin and franky fans though, but they will forever have the weaker villains than those previous three i mentioned...)

    if strawhats would fight the gorousei (which i think are hellbent strong) one-on-one....there are only 3 capable guys...and gorousei are 5. just sayin.

    i wouldnt close a door for "aokiji, smoker or anyone else insanely strong" to join the crew.
    What I meant was that he was stronger than Luffy, which goes against Oda's rule about having crewmates be stronger than him.

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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    Quote Originally Posted by EddyBob15 View Post
    What I meant was that he was stronger than Luffy, which goes against Oda's rule about having crewmates be stronger than him.
    that's why he is waiting for rufy being stronger than jinbe before making the latter join.

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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    I know that. But while it's pretty obvious that it won't be long before Luffy's strength surpasses Jinbe's, becoming stronger than Aokiji seems like a long shot.

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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    I don't think it is much of a long shot for luffy to surpass aokiji or any of the admirals for that matter. Obviously that won't happen soon however the manga is still just barely over half gone meaning that luffy has almost half the manga to pull that off. Luffy is getting stronger throughout all the arcs in a constant manner. Surely one or two more arcs from now it won't happen but what about 4 arcs from now? The monster trio in general should be weaker than admirals as of now however several arcs from now they will have had to defeat a number of strong people on their own including yonko, shichibukai and other world class pirates. It is not so out there for luffy or anyone of the monster trio for that matter to match or defeat an admiral in the long run.
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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    Very well, you made your point. But still, the odds of Kuzan joining are still long.

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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    Aokiji joining the strawhats? I agree in that is never going to happen, it doesn't even begin to amke sense lol.
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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    Does anyone have an idea of when Aokiji will turn up again?

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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    Yes, Oda.
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    Re: The Future of Aokiji

    It sounds like a crazy idea, but I think it is interesting if Aokiji later joins Revolutionary army or anything similar to that to coup the government since he sees the Akainu's leadership is corrupt.

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