Reborn 367 Discussion / 368 Predictions

[tiramisu]

Hibari vs Varia
probably Levi will lose(because he has Shimon-like plot relevance....and zero popularity) and Lussuria too(he's close range fighter -he will expose the watch).
Doubt Squalo,Belphegor and Xanxus will lose(Xanxus is Xanxus, he is not a fodder for Hibari- same thing for Squalo- and Belphegor is smart enough to know when it's time to retreat instead of losing)

The only team that it seems left out is Skulls team,it would be amusing if they got eliminated off pannel(and it would be also logical,everytime they appear Reborn jump rankings drop drastically,Amano is wise if she drops them off pannel)

[GotYou]

What do you mean "1 year younger than Tsuna"? Don't you mean older? :S Tsuna is 14 and Mukuro is 15.

Sorry for the late response but I mean almost a year younger because Tsuna is 14 by the time of his appearance but in chapter 22 in volume 3 he's got a birthday party so that means he turns 15 but Mukuro appears in august and his BD is on 9 june and by the time of his appearance he is 15 so that makes 9 months difference or have I got smth wrong?
And as for the chapter I really suspect something strange as hell about Hibari's behavior I mean at first he has been chasing Mukuro as if he was obsessed and now he made a deal with Fon and abruptly diverted his attention to Dino..wtf?

[keng4896]

Sorry for the late response but I mean almost a year younger because Tsuna is 14 by the time of his appearance but in chapter 22 in volume 3 he's got a birthday party so that means he turns 15 but Mukuro appears in august and his BD is on 9 june and by the time of his appearance he is 15 so that makes 9 months difference or have I got smth wrong?

9 months age diff doesn't mean that tsuna should be completely stronger that mukuro with that device. Tsuna actually crushed tons of people older than him.

And as for the chapter I really suspect something strange as hell about Hibari's behavior I mean at first he has been chasing Mukuro as if he was obsessed and now he made a deal with Fon and abruptly diverted his attention to Dino..wtf?

Maybe...he won during some fight with Mukuro? And Dino suddenly appeared in that fight and crushed Hibari? (not really possible though)

[GotYou]

9 months age diff doesn't mean that tsuna should be completely stronger that mukuro with that device. Tsuna actually crushed tons of people older than him.


Maybe...he won during some fight with Mukuro? And Dino suddenly appeared in that fight and crushed Hibari? (not really possible though)

Actually I did think about that but wait when Hibari went after Mukuro Mukuro was in France so they couldn't meet...but yeah Dino beat him once and I always wondered why wasn't Hibari interested in him and yeah finally he remembered lol XD And I didn't mean taht 9 months age difference should define the strength I'm just rather confused about their age because as I understand Mukuro is younger but he looks a lot older..well it can't be helped =) And I'm a bit confused about Tsuna's lack of self-confidence why does he get so worked up over that thing with Mukuro? He knows he beat Mukuro once but still gets angry like he never did it.

[Miyanoai]

I predict that Uni and Verde's team will be taken out next chapter. Shimon has 7 people plus Skull, them losing everyone is extremely low.

except they don't have to lose everybody, just their boss.

Wow, they this alliance like, what, two chapters ago? And Iemitsu already broke it. I wonder if maybe he's trying to teach Rsuna something in the process.
Tsuna's line really did seen out of character, but he must be really pissed. There's a few scenarios I'm thinking of that nobody's mentioned.
1) Tsuna gets angry enough to actually fire an x/xx-burner in team Colonnello's direction. Though I doubt he would risk that, but we all know it's pretty perfect revenge). XD
2) Reborn unleashes his curse and uses some cool shot to counteract Colonnello's shot.
3) Colonnello's time runs out before he can make a second shot (i'd personnally lmao if that happened).

As for the 'unconfirmed' watches, it's pretty obvious they survived. Poor Fran will probably have more brain damage (or MAYBE he'll get his memories back *wink wink*).

I would actually love for Hibari to loose but it doesn't seem like the author would want that to happen. It's pretty obvious from the start that a one-man team is futile so he must have something up his sleeve. I wonder what that promise from Fon was (if it's not the obvious). As soon as they were in the hotel, I though "yes, fight with the Varia!" XD now we're just missing the Shimon and Basil (he didn't get out yet, did he?)

Sorry for the late response but I mean almost a year younger because Tsuna is 14 by the time of his appearance but in chapter 22 in volume 3 he's got a birthday party so that means he turns 15 but Mukuro appears in august and his BD is on 9 june and by the time of his appearance he is 15 so that makes 9 months difference or have I got smth wrong?

I can't remember when Tsuna's age was first mentioned so at this point I kind of assumed he wad 13 in the very beginning and turned 14 in the birthday chapter, and he's been 14 ever since. It makes more sense with his grades cause if he were 15, he'd be a third year. And June can be 9 months after or 4 months before when you look at so he could 4 months older.

[just_a_girl]

Oh yes, Fon's promise to Hibari I'd like to hope it would be something really unexpected, but unfortunately, it's very likely just a promise to fight Hibari once the curse is lifted and Fon regains his real size and abilities.

Colonello's being too cool to be true, but he also seems to brag a lot while his time is running out. This way, he will mess up the second shot.

[Sademi]

Sorry for the late response but I mean almost a year younger because Tsuna is 14 by the time of his appearance but in chapter 22 in volume 3 he's got a birthday party so that means he turns 15 but Mukuro appears in august and his BD is on 9 june and by the time of his appearance he is 15 so that makes 9 months difference or have I got smth wrong?
And as for the chapter I really suspect something strange as hell about Hibari's behavior I mean at first he has been chasing Mukuro as if he was obsessed and now he made a deal with Fon and abruptly diverted his attention to Dino..wtf?

No, Tsuna was 13 at the beginning of the series but turned 14 in the birthday chapter. It wouldn't make sense with him being 15 and still in second grade, unless he had to repeat one year. Since Gokudera, Yamamoto and co are the same age as him, it would have to be the same way for them (very unlikely).
Mukuro is 15, which would make him a third year, and one year younger than Hibari, who should have or have already graduated, but decided to stay for some reason.
So, it's like this:
16 years: Hibari
15 years: Mukuro and his gang (excluding Chrome) and Ryohei
14 years: Tsuna, Gokudera, Yamamoto, Kyoko, Haru
13 years: Chrome

[matzik1212]

Nice chapter , i liked seeing Colonello in action (he's really hot in his released form btw )..... his rifle attack was really spectacular.
On the other hand Tsuna's dad is starting to piss me off , i mean i know he has to do what he has to do but i always find very annoying the characters who put a fake smile on their faces and he kinda always does that
Well but i have to admit that this experiences Tsuna is going through right now is something he needs since he has to put away that scaredy-cat attitude and understand the seriosity of this representative battle.
God i'm dying to see Tsuna pissed off really bad in this arc He needs to make each of his guardians understand that his far superior from them and that he's the boss IMO but well i guess it's something that's hard to accomplish with such an attitude lol

[Sademi]

Nice chapter , i liked seeing Colonello in action (he's really hot in his released form btw )..... his rifle attack was really spectacular.
On the other hand Tsuna's dad is starting to piss me off , i mean i know he has to do what he has to do but i always find very annoying the characters who put a fake smile on their faces and he kinda always does that
Well but i have to admit that this experiences Tsuna is going through right now is something he needs since he has to put away that scaredy-cat attitude and understand the seriosity of this representative battle.
God i'm dying to see Tsuna pissed off really bad in this arc He needs to make each of his guardians understand that his far superior from them and that he's the boss IMO but well i guess it's something that's hard to accomplish with such an attitude lol

He's pissed off at Mukuro enough to think something so OOC as "Mukuro, you bastard, I'm way stronger than you". But I agree, I would like to see Tsuna toughen up a little. But not too much, since I still like his comical side ;D

[ZERO PHOENIX]

Nice chapter , i liked seeing Colonello in action... his rifle attack was really spectacular.

I too was impressed with Colonello. It was kind of funny when I was reading it because the moment I saw that rifle I said to myself, "Oh shit. Two teams are going to be eliminated."

On the other hand Tsuna's dad is starting to piss me off , i mean i know he has to do what he has to do but i always find very annoying the characters who put a fake smile on their faces and he kinda always does that

You have to look at things from his standpoint though. He's closer to a true mafioso than Tsuna is and as such, he knows how to place the family before his own needs, unlike Tsuna. Mukuro has informed Tsuna at least a dozen times that he would eventually take over Tsuna's body and crush the Vongola. Add on the fact that Tsuna, having teamed up with Byakuran is like inviting a cobra into your bed and Iemitsu (hope I got his dad's name right) isn't having any of that. As far as he's concerned both Byakuran and Mukuro are gambits that are equally dangerous to the Vongola. If he can eliminate them from the match and even kill them then he's going to do what he has to do while he has an opening. He's not some cliche shounen dad (at least for the moment) he's mafia. I personally like Mukuro and Byakuran but if I was in Iemitsu's case I'd do the same thing. It's not about being everyone's best friend, it's about looking at any given situation, analyzing the problems, and taking steps to solve those problems. Byakuran (potentially) and Mukuro are both threats to the Vongola and with that in mind, well I'm sorry but they have to die. That's how Iemitsu is looking at it.

Well but i have to admit that this experiences Tsuna is going through right now is something he needs since he has to put away that scaredy-cat attitude and understand the seriosity of this representative battle.

I think you mean seriousness? Seriosity is not a word. Apart from that I agree with you. Tsuna has been in enough life and death battles to know that he needs to get his head in the game.

God i'm dying to see Tsuna pissed off really bad in this arc

Me too. I mean my word grow a pair.

He needs to make each of his guardians understand that his far superior from them and that he's the boss IMO but well i guess it's something that's hard to accomplish with such an attitude lol

I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Both Mukuro and Hibari are far superior to Tsuna in terms of combat experience, cunning, and raw power. The only reason Tsuna has taken down foes that they couldn't such as XanXus and Byakuran is simple plotkai. In a full on balls out battle between Tsuna, XanXus (love this guy), Byakuran, Hibari, and Mukuro, I guarantee Tsuna would be the first one eliminated if he didn't have his plot armor protecting him. Yes I'm aware that neither Byakuran nor XanXus are Tsuna's guardians however I'm making note of them because Tsuna, while very very powerful and far more skilled than a certain ADHD ninja in an orange jumpsuit, is really no match for the heavy-hitters in this game.

[Miyanoai]

God i'm dying to see Tsuna pissed off really bad in this arc He needs to make each of his guardians understand that his far superior from them and that he's the boss IMO but well i guess it's something that's hard to accomplish with such an attitude lol

If that was the case, first he'd have to figure that out himself. But I have to agree with Zero Pheonix. He's not superior than them in actual experience and skill. The only thing that really makes him superior aside from being the main character is his blood. If he wanted them to believe he's the boss (which of couse he doesn't), he's got to act like it. It's the only way he can recieve a shread amount of respect from his distant guardians and enemies. Power alone won't do it.

But yeah, him getting pissed off seems to be the first step, so I'm looking forward to it as well.
And as for Iemitsu, well, we need some more characters in this series that piss the audience off (and are actually tactical in a mafia way).

[gdmcrjunkie]

About Tsuna's out of character line:

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Mukuro no yatsu... Mae yori zutto tsuyoi!! => That Mukuro... He's much stronger than before!!

So, no worries~ Tsuna might be having issues with Iemitsu but he hasn't changed that much all of a sudden :)

Speaking of which. I don't think Iemitsu was being unreasonable this chapter but he's pissing me off all the same for some reason. I want the issue with him resolved soon... But I bet it'll take much longer. Oh well, I'll be satisfied if we see a different Tsuna as a result~ Maybe even some character development by the end of the arc? Wouldn't that be nice? :D

[KBraga]

Ooooh some traslation mistake out there, it caught the most of us hehe.

Colonnello shoot amazing , wondering about Reborn, and sure another arcobaleno will show himself up in this battle period, it will be either Mammon or Fon or maybe in a impressive scenario the both.

Fon's Promise: what else could the martial artist master arcobaleno Fon the best hand-figther in the arcobaleno possible promise to Hibari Kioya a battle maniac? it sure would be stunning if it was not a battle, but I couldn't think of any other reason, not even:
Fon - Hibari I'm your father! -
Hibari - nooooooooooooo! -

Second Battle Day Result Prediction:

Team Reborn: Tsuna, Gokudera and Yamamoto survive, Dino will somehow lose while getting involved in Varia/Hibari figth.
Team Uni: Eliminated (althought Uni's realease is still to be showed up, if that's the case they wont get elimianted, and instead it will be colonnello's)
Team Colonnello: Unscatched unless the situation described up there would happen, I mean either them or Uni's.
Team Verde: Mukuro and Fran (I think it's amusing the Genkisghi joining idea, but I don't think it would happen.)
Team Mammon: XanXus, Saqualo and Belphegor survive Lussuria and Leviathan get eliminated. XanXus will burst in the battle in rage for his sleep being disturbed.
Team Fon: Hibari will get alive and so his watch. (he has alredy to figth Mukuro, don't believe amano-sensei will not give us that long awaited scenario.)
Team Skull: or they are eihter figthing Basil wich is not possible 1 vs 7, unless CEDEF got some other figthers (would love if it was Shamal and Lancia) or they heading to the hotel to give Varia it's payback and so Enma watch would end up broken, and their team get eliminated.

You have to look at things from his standpoint though. He's closer to a true mafioso than Tsuna is and as such, he knows how to place the family before his own needs, unlike Tsuna. Mukuro has informed Tsuna at least a dozen times that he would eventually take over Tsuna's body and crush the Vongola. Add on the fact that Tsuna, having teamed up with Byakuran is like inviting a cobra into your bed and Iemitsu (hope I got his dad's name right) isn't having any of that. As far as he's concerned both Byakuran and Mukuro are gambits that are equally dangerous to the Vongola. If he can eliminate them from the match and even kill them then he's going to do what he has to do while he has an opening. He's not some cliche shounen dad (at least for the moment) he's mafia. I personally like Mukuro and Byakuran but if I was in Iemitsu's case I'd do the same thing. It's not about being everyone's best friend, it's about looking at any given situation, analyzing the problems, and taking steps to solve those problems. Byakuran (potentially) and Mukuro are both threats to the Vongola and with that in mind, well I'm sorry but they have to die. That's how Iemitsu is looking at it.

I actually like Iemitsu, his personality is awesome exactly what I expect from a father mafioso and I agrre with almost everything you said. As for Mukuro, we need to remember that Iemitsu was the one who chose him for the guardian of the mist, maybe he was expecting to show him through Tsuna that not all mafia are bad, don't think he changed his mind about it. But I agree in the fact that he may consider Byakuran a snake in the house.

Longing for the next chapter!

[GotYou]

Well, actually Tsuna isn't often mistaken in people, he might be in cases like with Mukuro, but well Mukuro is just a prof in disguising Chrome takes his actions and words at face value as well, but as for Tsuna he's got his super intuition and there were many times he could see through a person what others couldn't do. So I don't think Iemitsu is greater in that aspect, but at the same time something about a sudden change of Byakurans intentions confuses me, maybe we'll discover it later.

[tiramisu]

Ooooh some traslation mistake out there, it caught the most of us hehe.

Colonnello shoot amazing , wondering about Reborn, and sure another arcobaleno will show himself up in this battle period, it will be either Mammon or Fon or maybe in a impressive scenario the both.

Fon's Promise: what else could the martial artist master arcobaleno Fon the best hand-figther in the arcobaleno possible promise to Hibari Kioya a battle maniac? it sure would be stunning if it was not a battle, but I couldn't think of any other reason, not even:
Fon - Hibari I'm your father! -
Hibari - nooooooooooooo! -

Second Battle Day Result Prediction:

Team Reborn: Tsuna, Gokudera and Yamamoto survive, Dino will somehow lose while getting involved in Varia/Hibari figth.
Team Uni: Eliminated (althought Uni's realease is still to be showed up, if that's the case they wont get elimianted, and instead it will be colonnello's)
Team Colonnello: Unscatched unless the situation described up there would happen, I mean either them or Uni's.
Team Verde: Mukuro and Fran (I think it's amusing the Genkisghi joining idea, but I don't think it would happen.)
Team Mammon: XanXus, Saqualo and Belphegor survive Lussuria and Leviathan get eliminated. XanXus will burst in the battle in rage for his sleep being disturbed.
Team Fon: Hibari will get alive and so his watch. (he has alredy to figth Mukuro, don't believe amano-sensei will not give us that long awaited scenario.)
Team Skull: or they are eihter figthing Basil wich is not possible 1 vs 7, unless CEDEF got some other figthers (would love if it was Shamal and Lancia) or they heading to the hotel to give Varia it's payback and so Enma watch would end up broken, and their team get eliminated.



I actually like Iemitsu, his personality is awesome exactly what I expect from a father mafioso and I agrre with almost everything you said. As for Mukuro, we need to remember that Iemitsu was the one who chose him for the guardian of the mist, maybe he was expecting to show him through Tsuna that not all mafia are bad, don't think he changed his mind about it. But I agree in the fact that he may consider Byakuran a snake in the house.

Longing for the next chapter!

I agree with this.
Even though i think that probably is Colonnello team(together with Uni team) that will be eliminated.
The reason is that next chapter we will have a second Iemitsu vs Tsuna and since i doubt Iemitsu will be eliminated by someone else and that we will have a third Iemitsu vs Tsuna(it would be too repetitive)....this is the time Iemitsu team will get eliminated.

Team Skull are probably hiding so they will survive this time(Varia is busy with Hibari).

For me the surviving teams will be Reborn,Mammon,Verde,Fon and Skull.