Then please, provide me an actual fight ( not the excuse of a fight that was Sasuke vs Sakura or the trashing that was Sasuke vs Mizukage ) when Sasuke suffered and lost for his blindness.
Also in case you don't remember, Naruto suffered from the after effects of the transformation even during the Sasuke ownage back in Oro's lair. Reread the manga, he was sweating like crazy, was weak and sluggish. Even Oro commented on it.
Double standards here and there
Itachi fought to die that battle, so not really relevant.
And yes, Sasuke almost died. Not considering he was immune to poisons. Oh hey, another thing he had to work for!
Just kiddin', I don't really care for marginal things like that, or the hawk.
I love the rage the hawk produced though
Sasuke wasn't caught off guard because he covered his eye, he was caught off guard because:
-Bee was way faster than him
-Sasuke underestimated Bee
So don't try to make excuses for Sasuke's loss, please. The telltale of the bleeding eye is bypassed with EMS apparently, so your argument is moot.
Props on the Danzou one, it will only make ppl cry when Susano'o will withstand a Bijuudama when it got almost owned by a normal jutsu, despite almost enduring Tsunade's and Raikage's blows.
Oh god.
You didn't say that. You remember the Sasuke vs Itachi fight, right? He was blind. Near blind even before spamming MS.
Since ET regenerates the guy in the same state he died, by all means Itachi should go around with black glasses and a walking stick.
Double standards, you say that escaping Sharingan genjutsu is normal because a skilled one can do yet you cry about skilled fuuinjutsu user doing the same to Naruto.
Not every ninja is ultra skilled in Genjutsu, in fact one who is ultra skilled in genjutsu, Kurenai, was owned by a glance.
Oh and Jiraiya too was capable of sealing Kyuubi's chakra. And Yamato.
But hey, Naruto is Naruto and Sasuke is Sasuke, right?
Double standards mentioned above, Deidara trained his eye for years to counter the Sharingan, so for him is ok to be immune, while it is not ok for a skilled Fuuinjutsu user to do it.
Or what, Deidara is not one person?
Oh god.
Also you're aware that Danzou has no one, not two but 8 Sharingan eyes in his Sharingarm, right?
Sharingarm. Again.
And Fuuinjutsu isn't a legendary art, is an art that many have used:
Yondaime, Danzou, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, hell even the fat pain uses Fuuinjutsu. It is not a normal skill, but ehy we saw how "normal people" fare against the Sharingan genjutsu
How will I like to copy this statement when discussing an eventual Itachi vs Sasuke.
I remember clearly that, when someone said that Sasuke broke out of Tsukuyomi thanks to the cursed seal you were all "No! it was in the illusion! After the illusion broke Sasuke didn't activate the seal! It was all Sasuke!!".
By manga facts Sasuke broke out of Tsukuyomi by his strenght, sure Itachi went easy ( or was dying ) yet he did so.
So yeah, Sharingan > Genjutsu in general
Would he be able to do it without his eyes?
And no, he saw that Deidara's jutsu was an earth style. Even if he said that it was for the handseal, he confirmed it when he saw those nanobombs.
He had an hint, and he exploited it. Clever sure, but it was all thanks to his eyes analyzing Deidara's jutsu.
Didn't Itachi said it to Oro?
"All your jutsus are worthless before these eyes"
Didn't Sasuke took control of Oro's dimension? Do you believe he did so thanks to his superior cunning and knowledge? No, he did so thanks to his magic eyes
Forgot that he had to train for Chidori also?
Also it is a gift because, without those, he wouldn't be able to do it. Not in a month at least, he would in years, like Lee.
And true, Naruto has to get mad. Shame it isn't permanent, and it isn't a permanent solution since Neji broke him out of the tailess cloak pretty easily.
And again, Naruto needed a fist bumb and 570 chapters. Don't be mad
I mentioned him because first M3J then you kept mentioning him.
See my first post, I kept talking about Uchihas and Sharingan users.
His doing a 360° amaterasu shield and with not even a little bit of sweat or a problem with the eye simply proves my point.
Same with Itachi. Previously Sasuke sweated a lot and panted when using Amaterasu, same with Itachi, now its a walk in the park for them, since neither broke a sweat.
Also debatable, since it happened almost in the same moment, all the time Naruto had was to free the bijuu from steaks, which used what, 10 seconds?
Chakra drain remains the same, same as injuries, like Hanzou and Niidaime Mizukage proved.
Again he didn't even bat an eye
Itachi's Tsukuyomi can be broken only by another true Uchiha ( which reconnets to the whole Sharingan > genjutsu ) while Sasuke's Tsukuyomi, the worst there is, is still invincible against 99% of the population of the narutoverse.
This proves that, like Kyuubi, the Sharingan isn't invincible but damn close to it
Orochimaru lair disagrees with you.
Also Kushina was almost dieing after Kyuubi was extracted, so your arguments stands on baseless grounds.
Naruto being damaged and weak despite his natural healing and Sakura's is fine because is Naruto, while Sasuke isn't because ehi, the Sharingan isn't hax, the Kyuubi is!
Why then, despite his Uzumaki inheritance and Kyuubi's regenative powers, Naruto still felt weak for at least more than an hour?
Double standards, again!
Oh brother.
Also Sasuke didn't obtain the Sharingan because Itachi mindraped him, Itachi mindraped him to make him stronger, so your argument is moot.
Like the rest, really, sure they had to endure the trauma, but they got a hell of a lot stronger because of it, and all for free since, trauma aside, it was a gift.
Kyuubi too was a gift, yet Naruto endured 13 years of lonileness and 16 years trying to be aknowledged by people.
Kyuubi powers weren't harnessed with only a fist bump, Naruto had to submit his hate and Kyuubi itself first to even take a fraction of the power.
Being biased is ok, being blind it isn't
He grew up without them thanks to Kyuubi, so yes, he gave up his family, and yes he felt his loss since being alone, despised by everyone, isn't a walk in the park.
Also keep forgetting the Kabuto, Kakuzu and Kyuubi fight when he fought without Kyuubi, please.
It only proves how bias makes you blind. On the other hand, no Uchiha can even prove a win against using the Sharingan, so again, moot point.
Kiba > no one after all
Shame none of this event was even dependant of his Sharingan.
It was Sasuke's life, not at all dependant on his Sharingan and all dependant on his brother, and his own mindset.
Don't attribute Sasuke's shortcomings and Itachi's mistakes to the Sharingan, please
I aknowledge the near death situation against Haku, and nothing more. Maybe the Amaterasu one.
The 2 tomoe was already developed when Lee kicked Sasuke's ass, the three tomoe wasn't in a near death situation since Naruto held back until the end, MS was gifted to him by Itachi since, like Tobi said, that was Itachi's goal from the beginning.
Susano'o was activated well before Raikage's Liger bomb, since Juugo commented on it as being the "thing Sasuke wanted to try".
EMS wasn't an emotional breakdown, it was Sasuke wanting to crush Naruto.
No emotional trauma, he only wanted to kill Naruto.
Don't make Sasuke be way more developed than he really is, and don't see things where there aren't.
Sasuke wanted to crush Naruto, so he took Itachi's eyes. No sweat
Again, 570 chapter and a fight against a giant bijuu, plus proven the effect of Kyuubi's chakra in both chakra control and Oro's lair.
Plus his stamina in his own is gigantic, shame on you. His super strenght doesn't derive from Kyuubi but from Sage Mode, shame on you. The best sensing abilities comes from Sage Mode, shame on you.
And also he, as I proven to you, is by no means immortal. But please keep continuing to believe so, as you said is merely an opinion from both of us
You know the hilarious thing?
I can say the same thing with the Sharingan, lol.
Do you want to escape a Genjutsu? Sharingan. Do you want to copy any jutsu? Sharingan. Do you want to overpower stronger opponents? Susano'o or Amaterasu. Do you want to deal with faster opponents? Susano'o. Do you want to deal with more skilled opponents? Susano'o. Do you want an one-hit kill attack? Amaterasu or Susano'o or Tsukuyomi/Koto Amatsukami. Do you want to have the ability to deal with Bijuu? Normal Sharingan ( in Madara and Tobi's case). Do you want to cheat death? Izanagi. Do you want to change destiny, whatever that means? Izanami. Do you want to protect yourself from almost all jutsus? Susano'o or 360° Amaterasu.
As for price, Naruto didn't fight for shit. He had Kurama from the beginning. He just didn't have control over him until they fought.
Also Kyuubi's power wasn't controllable without fighting Kyuubi itself, no matter how much you rage about it.
Harness Kyuubi's power= Fighting Kyuubi, harnessing Sharingan power= Near death situation.
As I asked M3J, is better fighting Kyuubi or fighting Haku?
I'm sure Haku would be tougher, I mean hell, those senbons were so much powerful that a giant bijuu would've fallen from it in a second.
So the haxeness of Kyuubi is imho well balanced with Sharingan's cheapness and less haxness.
Since, and you keep porposefully ignoring that, Sharingan can be upped to Rin'negan with just a bit of cells.
And Rin'negan >= Bijuus, apparently. But of course that is not cheap, and the Rin'negan is not haxed.
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Honestly man, I'm not trying to downplay Naruto, I'm just more annoyed with how Sasuke gets downplayed constantly while Naruto gets free passes. 
