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Nothing M3J is saying is anything that any other poster here hasn't already heard/said a million times. It's just whether they want to accept it or not.
And they won't accept it. Or else he and I wouldn't have to repeat the shit a million times, lol. I agree with him that the double standards have to end. But, in a way, I already know they won't, since we're nearing the end of the manga and people haven't conceded defeat yet. You know how pathetic it's gotten?
I'm in a Fairy Tail RP forum. And that RP forum has a cbox chat thread. And I was talking about the Naruto manga in the chat thread and mentioned Sasuke's name...
...and it showed up as ******. That's right. They banned the use of the name Sasuke in the FAIRY TAIL chatbox because the owner of the RP forum despises Sasuke... a character from another manga. Do you understand how pathetic that is? You know what his answer was when I asked why he hates him?
"Because he's a whiny emo who never earns his powerups. His godly hax powerups" I couldn't give two shits about the emo namecalling. Invader beat that horse to death, so it has no bite anymore. It's the complaning about the haxness that's making me lose hope in humanity. I give no one the benefit of the doubt anymore. It's why I get in so many personal arguments in the forum nowadays because I go into every debate assuming the guy I'm talking to is a fucking moron.
Haha, so glad I'm not visiting you so often, I would have gone on rage-mode all the time too, which would lead to me getting banned. XD Nowadays one has to accept that some opinions aren't changeable, however much ones brings up good arguments.
Nonetheless, banning a name from a board for 99% of users that aren't me is really a poor act of leadership.
I have no issue with defending Naruto or Sasuke, though. As much as I dislike Sasuke and don't care about him, I can't just let people say incorrect stuff about him. If I was biased, I'd say Jiraiya beats Sasuke or that Sasuke loses to most opponents before he got EMS or possibly MS.
One of hte most rageworthy moment was when Naruto was dumbed up against Nagato. That was BS in my opinion, Naruto's definitely not that stupid... in fact I don't think he's stupid at all, at least in terms of fighting.
To be honest though, Sharingan and Mangekyo Sharingan are Sasuke's own power. Kyuubi isn't, it's an outside power.
EMS was given to him, which makes the Kyuubi argument less weightily. If characters can use objects of any kind and Kurama can be called a weapon like the Susano'o, than they are equally given stronger powers IMO. In the end the RS state is quiet similar to how we see Uchiha fight with their Susano'o is out, like a monstrous beast in so many other manga/anime. Hm, did I just degrade it to another Monster fighter type series? :P
Last edited by Schabrak; June 18, 2012 at 08:53 PM.
I don't know. Susanoo has a time limit and even then it's power is relatively set. That's much different from the Kyuubi usage.
Their potential end forms are devastating and top end game techiques nonetheless. It's not like Naruto had Kyuubi under control the moment he got RS and you don't really think of putting Madara's S. on Shukakus lvl are you? He is clearly capable of fighting the individual Bijuu with that monstrosity. Naruto has a limit on Kyuubi mode too, so that time limit argument is pointless.
I root for Naruto, so of course I hope that he will be stronger than his rival whenever they decide to fight again.
Last edited by Schabrak; June 19, 2012 at 06:53 AM.
is Chouji a better character than all the other because he never lost since his fight with the mummy sound guy, can turn into a giant Aizen mode that can match Gedo Mazo?
No he isn't.
Is Luffy a great character because he always win? Same for Natsu? No, they are great characters for a great number of other reasons. Winning and losing is simply a matter of mere interest in a flashy fight, character development is another matter entirely.
You want perfect characters? You have Itachi and Yondaime
I would lol if it was true though
Which is ok imho, Naruto as a manga escalated in such a manner that a Susano'o with a time limit wouldn't be believable, Madara is sustaining a Bijuu-sized one after spawning 2 meteors, 2 Mokuton jutsus as large as a village, 25 copies of himself and various S rank Katons and he didn't even broke a sweat.
Madara's Susano'o is pretty effin' strong, and even incomplete it was able to take in a lot of hits. Complete, there's probably nothing that can damage Susano'o. Thanks to Sharingan though, Madara doesn't really need to fight bijuu, he can just use genjutsu on them like he did with Kyuubi.
That limit, according to Kyuubi, was for five minutes since it was their first time. If Bee is anything to go by, they most likely won't have a limit other than chakra. Naruto's defense showed to be superior to Sasuke's, even before Kyuubi became Naruto's partner.
Same, but I hope he's weaker. The fight has tons of potential, especially if it's like Neji vs. Naruto or Gaara vs. Naruto. Not only symbolic, but Naruto's refusal to give up and keep fighting allows him to come up with ingenious ways to beat Sasuke.Quote:
It's basically the only reason why I don't care about Sasuke getting stronger. Or the main reason. He can be stronger than Naruto, but as long as Naruto wins in an epic way, roawr.
Minato is basically the only perfect character or displayed as such, in my opinion. Itachi has been shown to make mistakes, and he's even been outsmarted at least twice. Minato hasn't shown to be outsmarted or anything.
Last edited by Rikudou King; June 19, 2012 at 11:21 PM.
It's also important to point out that Edo Tensei don't feel pain and thus, can't feel the physical side effects of using Susanoo because they don't know that their cells are hurting.
Which still makes me wonder why the hell Hakugeki worked on Itachi, when he should never have felt the pain of his bones rattling. Shit made no sense. Impaled with stalagmites? He doesn't utter a word. Loud noises and bright lights? He can't maintain Susanoo. Right.
Find out for yourself. Just go to the very bottom of the page. Click on the cbox. Type Sasuke Uchiha. You will see "*? Uchiha" instead. That's how sad people have gotten. That's not even the worse part though. Scour the internet for a Naruto RP forum and I guaran-damn-tee every long lasting one you find has a strict "No Sharingan/Uchiha" clause. I joined one once where you couldn't have a Sharingan... but you COULD use a kekkei genkai that allowed time control and gravity manipulation. How screwed up is it that they consider TIME MANIPULATION less hax than the MS?
Even funnier? RINNEGAN wasn't banned. I can't help but laugh from remembering this shit.
Last edited by ninjabot; June 19, 2012 at 07:29 PM.
And you keep mentioning Minato, when would he have a chance to make mistakes?
- In the flashback, when he was presented as the prodigious Yellow Flash?
After being hyped for years we get a glimpse on his strengths. Nonetheless he didn't keep Kakashi from getting hurt and left his team alone, letting one of his pupils die.
- In Naruto's mind when he sealed Kurama?
Would he have failed, Naruto would have died and the series ended.
- In the flashback, when he lost his life because of Tobi/Kurama?
He lost his life in order to let his son live on, even lost his wife because he couldn't hold back the beast any better. So he lost and still came out as a hero, that's hard to achieve when you are forced to become a missing-nin.
It's a forum with a hater as an admin, what can one do, but point that out or go away. Since it's the fault of a single person in between millions of normal fans/readers, this doesn't speak for much. There is a general negativity towards Sasuke, but that may originate from his massive ego and hate in the recent past, not much more from the power upgrades. He's just not a likable character anymore.
Last edited by Schabrak; June 19, 2012 at 08:04 PM.
@ Schabrak: Oh, no. That was just a mere example of how bad it's gotten. The other examples I mentioned are from nearly 4 years ago. From a completely different forum. It's an example of how we can not even be having a manga specific discussion and yet Sasuke's ire be found in situations where it's either uncalled for, or called for, yet blown waaaay out of proportion.
Just showing you that it can never be said that both sides are equally irrate. How many of you can say you've found entire forums where Naruto himself is despised this badly? Yeah. THought not.
So the author achieved his goal, that's a good thing to happen, not people idiotically banning names from forums of course. I disdain him for his actions too, that doesn't excuse all the blinded fans though, but explains some part of the hate directed at Sasuke.
Sasuke hate is really simple, he is the only rival character that threats the main character in every way. From screen time to fame, to power, or just being cooler.... Naruto fans just can't accept that so they hide behind the Emo, lunatic image.