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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
My whole point was, you declared Kakashi > Gai and Minato > A when that clearly isn't the case. In both situations, each ninja has advantages and disadvantage. To say one is stronger than the other is wrong, especially since they've never been in a fight where there is a clear winner when both are going all out and fighting to the death.
We know Hashirama is stronger than Madara because he beat him. Prior to recent events, Sasuke was stronger than Naruto because he beat him and later had greater leaps in power than Naruto. We don't need to see Naruto and Sasuke fight now because clearly Naruto is stronger. That's common sense, just like it's common sense Kakashi can't tank one of Gai's high level attacks.
If I'm wrong about Kakashi and Gai, then would you be willing to admit Naruto isn't stronger than Sasuke until proven otherwise?
The only thing the Minato vs Ee proved was that Minato was faster, which is not the same as being stronger. And Naruto being "stronger" then Sasuke is quite questionable. Naruto's had trouble against nearly every opponent he fought during the current war, not to mention his basic uselessness against the two main Uchiha villains. Sasuke may not be on Madara's level, but he's at least as strong as Obito.
I'm not trying to get in the middle of anything here. However, you can't acknowledge one without acknowledging the other. While it is in fact undeniable that Naruto has had to be babysat for his two major battles within the war, the one battle that Sasuke participated in, Itachi had to lead him through. You could call P.I.S, for him however, you'd have to do the same for the other. Just because the stupidity is a staple in Naruto's characterization, doesn't change that it's still P.I.S
how minato can be the loser between his fight with A and B because , minato acknowledged A having a good family(bother), and he didn't wanted to keep fighting and especial after minato found out that b was a host and atill was loved by A and his village so minato acknowledged that and told A , the next fight, it will be when both of us are hokages..
Minato run away? Oh my god. That's the most ridiculous logic/comment I've ever read. Is that even happen in kishi's manga? Well, I know some character named minato who run away from her gf. But its not minato, the legendary ninja from kishi's manga.
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Bee already had a counter. If Minato tried doin that then Bee would have already stabbed him.
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He did not run away.
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You cant be serious about that last bit... Minato had no intention of harming Bee, he had time to talk and then noticed Bees hand, Your telling me that had Minato wanted to kill Bee, Bee would have done dealt a similar blow?
Combat wise, he ran away. I'm not judging combat wise, as I basically said that Minato would have likely kept fighting if he wasn't given orders to retreat.
Yes I am, considering Bee was already ready to strike. If you notice his hands before Minato teleports or before he uses Hiraishin to get to Bee, you won't see his left hand, logically assuming that it's in a backward position.
Kirabi was able to notice and react in the instant Minato used Hiraishin and manifest a Hachibi's tentacle in the same instant to counter him. So your claim that "Minato could have stabbed him the moment he Hiraishin'd in" doesn't hold any water. Just because Minato didn't act, in no way means that had he acted it would have succeeded. And seeing that Kirabi's arm was on his leg before Minato teleported and then his arm was behind him once Minato appeared without any movement during that time, Kirabi clearly saw and had his sword in place upon Minato using Hiraishin.