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Translations: Gintama 515 (2)
...so? Anything else you'd like to add, sir, or did you create this thread just to post a 'funny' picture?
I wonder though, your scenario only really works for a single person maintaining sage chakra. what of those who have help?
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Last edited by KiSwordsman; December 08, 2012 at 11:57 AM.
I would think that if Obito had any feeling towards Kakashi, he wouldn't have ignored him for the last sixteen years.
Not sure if he felt regret at that time either. He might have felt confused, if anything, considering to him Kakashi acted out of character... unless Kakashi did hint he'd kill his own teammates if the situation should arise.
Last edited by KiSwordsman; December 08, 2012 at 12:18 PM.
It doesn't mean he'd have felt regret, at least in that moment. Would you feel regret right at the moment you see your best friend, whom you saved, stab his teammate, your crush, and killed her? Or would you feel shocked, betrayed, and confused? If anything, the Mangekyo must have been connected, and Kakashi unlocking his Mangekyo might have unlocked Tobi's as well.
I'd say it's a combination of all of that. he did spend a good four seconds trying to comprehend everything that was going on I'd say in that moment he felt regret as well. like I've already said before, if we are going to give credit to just one of the two parties for unlocking the Mangekyo, Obito is the one who should receive it. It's Obito's eye which he still had a connection to.
However, like I've also already said, the best case scenario, for Kakashi mostly, would be that they both unlocked the Mangekyo individually but at the same time.
he had faith in him and cared for him?
Plus, he never tried to find out why Kakashi killed Rin. Considering how he was able to see through Kakashi's Sharingan for a second, it makes sense to believe Kakashi's activation of Mangekyo activated Tobi's.
Though, I'd rather chalk it up to Kishi's nonsensical writing to make Tobi Obito while introducing possibility of him turning good. Can't kill Kakashi as that'd be a major retcon, and killing Rin would be complete 180. No one else was established to be close to Tobi/Obito, so it was Kakashi needing to kill Rin that unlocked Mangekyo.
It's not just regret for saving him. It's regret for saving him, sacrificing himself, giving him his eyeball, and entrusting Rin's safety to him. Also, regret isn't the only factor here. We've already spent multiple posts describing the other factors that contributed to the awakening the Mangekyo. It's not like all of them have to be included in order for some unspoken criteria for the "appropriate" amount of trauma to be met to unlock the Mangekyo. What does it matter if he never asked Kakashi why? I've said this multiple times, the guy went insane, and saw a reset button in the form of Madara's plan. Obito having a connection to his eye goes one way, not two. If Kakashi was to be given credit then Obito would have unlocked it in the trees. However, it's made clear to everyone what did it for him.
Of course you would, because you don't agree with the fact that obito is Tobi. Trust me, I don't either. With this Kishimoto has left a bit of a bad connotation with the Uchiha. And unless one bothers to pay attention, that's all they're going to see.Quote:
Last edited by KiSwordsman; December 08, 2012 at 08:34 PM.
Doesn't mean I wouldn't have accepted it, but the backstory just had horrible writing that I hated the whole Tobito thing even more. Few things in the story I didn't ilke, but I accepted it since it made sense.
It does matter because if Tobi learns why Kakashi killed Rin, he just may turn good.