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And really, even if you would consider that a case of P.I.S., we're talking one battle vs nearly half a dozen. There's a clear difference any way you look at it. At some point, it becomes less P.I.S. and more the standard.
It doesn't matter because we know that Sasuke was better than that. That's why it was so easy to call bullshit. Just like we've seen Naruto do vastly better than he has been doing. We've seen Sasuke stand on his own two feet before. Yet, all of a sudden he need Itachi to hold his hand, regardless of what he was there to do. And even with the goal in mind, Sasuke believed that Kabuto could take it.
So your counting the clone battles too? sure why not. Originally, you cited Naruto's performance in the war as the reason that him being stronger than sasuke is questionable. you have to do the same for Sasuke, and his doesn't look that great either. Naruto having more instances doesn't change that fact. if you honestly want to bring Naruto's superiority into question, cite Sasuke's superior intelligence, better analytical skills, or just overall well roundedness as a ninja.
What "near half dozen" fights in the war are you talking about if you aren't counting the clones? Because sasuke's performance in the war was nothing to write home about either. Trying to explain that away by saying that Sasuke was a support, doesn't change that. The only reason that fight was even interesting was because of his involvement. Yet, instead of standing alongside his brother, he ended taking a backseat to him. Fact is there are other ways to cite Sasuke's superiority to Naruto.
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This wasn't an act of kindness, Minato had no hesitation to kill people. The sole reason why he spared Bee was to blackmail Raikage into quitting his assault. Minato was just smart enough to realize nothing good would come out from this game of nearly impenetrable armor vs. 100% dodge rate.
Edo-Jinchuriki, and Obito were practically the same fight given the fact the Obito was the one controlling them. also, I fail to see how it only got impressive when he went back into sage mode. His tactics against the third Raikage while in chakra mode were impressive as well. Also, how exactly does that count against him? Because of Dodai's involvement? So at best you have three, and even then, It doesn't matter. Given the fact that Naruto has displayed capabilities that would allow him to handle himself in these and previous fights, by all accounts, he should be doing just that. Yet he isn't, almost purely for the sake of other characters. Thusly, P.I.S. The only reason that it works so well is because of the fact that naruto has been characterized as stupid. Sasuke though, not so much. Which is why it's so much easier to point out in his case. Why does that mean that he can't stand alongside Itachi? Once again, that's not an excuse for him essentially being made the Naruto of that fight when we know that he is better than that. It being "Itachi's fight" doesn't change, or excuse this.Quote:
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How is it not the same fight when they're basically facing the same guy using a different method of attack? What exactly does his technique being tanked have to do with his overall performance? That's not a mark against him. That's a plus for his opponent. A technique that we literally saw reduce a body to dust, (human path). It's not really "supposed" if it is actually there. Just like how he did not use the speed again until it was time to save Kakashi. It's there, it's just not being used for the sake of other characters. And Kishimoto can get away with it due to stupidity being a staple in Naruto's character. that way, if he doesn't do something that he's clearly capable of doing, it's in character. So it isn't moot because we know why it's not being done especially if we've seen it done before. In no way, huh? So being rescued when it's not necessary based on his past showings, and being made to follow the lead of another character aren't Naruto like. He doesn't have to meet all those criteria for it to be considered as such. Like I've stated already, it being "Itachi's fight" doesn't excuse this.Quote:
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What? The only times Sasuke was rescued was during the White Raging and the Inorganic Transformation, with the latter questionable given his following action. Every other time was them mutual rescuing each other, with a single time of Sasuke's fire technique getting overpowered by Kabuto's water technique. At no point did Sasuke need to be rescued after making an idiotic mistake or acting stupid. And if Naruto was just following the lead of another, I wouldn't have a problem, but he's not. He's being ineffective while another fights without any reason is not the same. The majority of the time, there is no one taking the leadership role in the fights, but simply having a free-for-all with no plan.
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