Not a member? Register now!
Announcements
Manga returns! Catch up with the details. Enjoy downloading, translating, and scanlating manga HERE legally!
Like us on Facebook, follow us on Twitter! Celebrate another year with MH and read our yearbook.
Manga News: Check out this week's new manga (9/8/14 - 9/14/14).
Forum News: Visit new sections for Nisekoi and Kingdom!
Translations: Gintama 510 (2) , Naruto 692 by aegon-rokudo , Bleach 595 by BadKarma
Thread Closed
Page 129 of 134 FirstFirst ... 29 79 119 127 128 129 130 131 ... LastLast
Results 1,921 to 1,935 of 2004

Thread: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

  1. #1921
    MH Senpai 伝説メンバー / Densetsu / Legendary Member M3J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Country
    Vatican City State
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    32,888
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    Quote Originally Posted by LnDRash View Post
    Well, Madara did say the Zetsu's are low quality clones of Hashirama. So logically I'd say, a lower version can't have abilities the superior version doesn't possess. Unless of course some further modications were made. Possible? Certainly. But so far there's no real indication for it.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/606/14
    I think there were modifications made where Zetsu were significantly altered in manners beneficial to the plan, which is great when you think about it. It only "failed" because of Naruto, but the goal was to get Naruto out of hiding, which it kind of did. I really don't understand the whole complaint about the plan Tobi had before Kabuto came along.

  2. #1922
    Registered User 有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity REN KOUEN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Country
    United States
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    4,549
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    Orochimaru presumably considering he left alone with no one to guide him, Akatsuki/Itachi later on, and then Kirabi afterward. I don't think gathering information on Orochimaru would be that simple, considering how smart and cautious Orochimaru is. And Sasuke got discovered because he was ousted, not for any failure in stealth skills.

    Setting the tags beforehand would take time, especially if he needed to cover a wide area. Throwing them would merely place all the tags in a specific area, thus the reason he had to rely upon his fellow soldiers during the war. The magatama requiring Susanoo is a non-issue, as the speed of it is instantaneous. Anyway, the point is that the Enton flames would be much easier to hide then Hiraishin.
    they were likely traveling in a pack when karin noticed the kages chaakra and she could tell how critical their condition was

  3. #1923
    Registered User 英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Karachi
    Country
    Pakistan
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    1,120
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    I think there were modifications made where Zetsu were significantly altered in manners beneficial to the plan, which is great when you think about it. It only "failed" because of Naruto, but the goal was to get Naruto out of hiding, which it kind of did. I really don't understand the whole complaint about the plan Tobi had before Kabuto came along.
    He only managed to get all the 9 Bijus chakra thanks to Kin and Gin bros, otherwise what was the point of creating all the fuss of world war if whole zetsu thing was meant to get Naruto out of hiding, if he needed Naruto then why making them cautious by declaring war, instead he simply would have gone on to catch him.
    So if it wasn't got Edo Tensei and Kabuto , his plan was simply BS.

  4. #1924
    MH Senpai 伝説メンバー / Densetsu / Legendary Member M3J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Country
    Vatican City State
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    32,888
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    War was for distraction. Didn't Tobi himself say he didn't care about the winner, as long as he got the two jinchuuriki? Maybe Bee and Naruto would have had protection and been impossible to get to, so the war was to have them hide and then lure them out, with people being too distracted to focus on Naruto.

    Edo Tensei and Kabuto's only contribution was Madara. Otherwise it seems Tobi's plan did work, Naruto was drawn out with majority too busy/distracted to protect him. Hell, it was just TObi and his jinchuuriki vs. Naruto and Bee, latter who didn't get help until way later. Though granted, TObi probably did deal damage because of Edo Tensei and helped Kyuubi become Naruto's butt buddy.

  5. #1925
    MangaHelper MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted Rikudou King's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Poke-france.
    Country
    United States
    Age
    27
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    8,824
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    The war really didn't make any sense, even as a distraction. Had he not declared the war, he would only have had to deal with a single village protecting their Jinchuuriki (since Kumo wasn't in a position to protect Kirabi at that point in time). Of course, it makes even less sense given that it's now clear that Obito alone could have grabbed Naruto without having to draw him out or anything.

  6. #1926
    Registered User 有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity REN KOUEN's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Country
    United States
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    4,549
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    The war really didn't make any sense, even as a distraction. Had he not declared the war, he would only have had to deal with a single village protecting their Jinchuuriki (since Kumo wasn't in a position to protect Kirabi at that point in time). Of course, it makes even less sense given that it's now clear that Obito alone could have grabbed Naruto without having to draw him out or anything.
    he was hoping the threat of war would possibly convince the nations to just hand the jinchuuriki over

    but once he had made the threat he had to follow through with it, madara wanted this plan because he loved the idea of the war, he wanted the nations to suffer a loss, and he wanted chaos

    which would give him even more reason to use infinite tsukyomi

    which is still in my opinion quite a dumb plan

  7. #1927
    Registered User 有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity Zehahaha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Country
    Morocco
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    3,719
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    The war really didn't make any sense, even as a distraction. Had he not declared the war, he would only have had to deal with a single village protecting their Jinchuuriki (since Kumo wasn't in a position to protect Kirabi at that point in time). Of course, it makes even less sense given that it's now clear that Obito alone could have grabbed Naruto without having to draw him out or anything.
    Plot induced stupidity, that's all... Obito could've kidnapped Naruto, or any Jinchuuriki anytime anyday... But meh

  8. #1928
    MH Senpai 伝説メンバー / Densetsu / Legendary Member M3J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Country
    Vatican City State
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    32,888
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikudou King View Post
    The war really didn't make any sense, even as a distraction. Had he not declared the war, he would only have had to deal with a single village protecting their Jinchuuriki (since Kumo wasn't in a position to protect Kirabi at that point in time). Of course, it makes even less sense given that it's now clear that Obito alone could have grabbed Naruto without having to draw him out or anything.
    Plot. And the fact that Kishi did a horrible job being consistent with Tobi's character.

  9. #1929
    MangaHelper MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted Rikudou King's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Poke-france.
    Country
    United States
    Age
    27
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    8,824
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    Quote Originally Posted by Kisame Hoshigaki View Post
    he was hoping the threat of war would possibly convince the nations to just hand the jinchuuriki over

    but once he had made the threat he had to follow through with it, madara wanted this plan because he loved the idea of the war, he wanted the nations to suffer a loss, and he wanted chaos

    which would give him even more reason to use infinite tsukyomi

    which is still in my opinion quite a dumb plan
    He already had them though, or at least could have grabbed them in Naruto's case. At the very least, a plan to get both Jinchuurikis that involved allowing one of those Jinchuurikis to escape just so you can try to get they handed over is not a plan.

    Even the idea that he wanted chaos or them to suffer doesn't fit given the hackneyed background inserted about him not caring about anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zehahaha View Post
    Plot induced stupidity, that's all... Obito could've kidnapped Naruto, or any Jinchuuriki anytime anyday... But meh
    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Plot. And the fact that Kishi did a horrible job being consistent with Tobi's character.
    Unfortunately, absolutely true.

  10. #1930
    Artists of MH 英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member shinsengumi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Constantinopolis
    Country
    Turkey
    Age
    28
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    1,251
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    i dont remember kishi being consistent with anything ever

  11. Thanks 1 Member(s) thanked this post
  12. #1931
    MangaHelper MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted Rikudou King's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Poke-france.
    Country
    United States
    Age
    27
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    8,824
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    He's sort of been consistent with the whole "regular people hating those with special abilities". At the very least, he had the whole Uchiha situation foreshadowed back in the Wave arc.

  13. #1932
    Registered User 英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Karachi
    Country
    Pakistan
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    1,120
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    War was for distraction. Didn't Tobi himself say he didn't care about the winner, as long as he got the two jinchuuriki? Maybe Bee and Naruto would have had protection and been impossible to get to, so the war was to have them hide and then lure them out, with people being too distracted to focus on Naruto.

    Edo Tensei and Kabuto's only contribution was Madara. Otherwise it seems Tobi's plan did work, Naruto was drawn out with majority too busy/distracted to protect him. Hell, it was just TObi and his jinchuuriki vs. Naruto and Bee, latter who didn't get help until way later. Though granted, TObi probably did deal damage because of Edo Tensei and helped Kyuubi become Naruto's butt buddy.
    Edo Tensei's and Kabuto's other contribution were Kin and Gin bros who made the revival of Juubi possible

  14. #1933
    MH Senpai 伝説メンバー / Densetsu / Legendary Member M3J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Country
    Vatican City State
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    32,888
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    How so? Juubi could have been revived without the portion of Eight Tails or Nine Tails, but it wouldn't be as powerful as it is now. Hell, it's nowhere near its power had it gotten the full Hachibi and Kyuubi chakra. Kin and Gin brothers weren't necessary, but they did add some power to the Juubi.

  15. #1934
    Registered User 英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Karachi
    Country
    Pakistan
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    1,120
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    How so? Juubi could have been revived without the portion of Eight Tails or Nine Tails, but it wouldn't be as powerful as it is now.
    No it couldn't, because Tobi waited untill he got the portion of Hachibi and Kyuubi's chakra.

    Quote Originally Posted by M3J View Post
    Hell, it's nowhere near its power had it gotten the full Hachibi and Kyuubi chakra. Kin and Gin brothers weren't necessary, but they did add some power to the Juubi.
    Assuming that they were not required to revive the Juubi then the whole point of war seems more ridiculous. Unless there are some convenient requirements of Infinite Tsukuyomi (Like all people should be in the same place so that will effect them other wise it wont work or something like that).

  16. #1935
    MH Senpai 伝説メンバー / Densetsu / Legendary Member M3J's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Country
    Vatican City State
    Gender
    Male
    Posts
    32,888
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Naruto Hangout Thread v.12

    Tobi waited because he wanted the Juubi to be at max power. He couldn't get Hachibi and Kyuubi so he made do with what little chakra he had from them. Otherwise Juubi wouldn't have been revived because the chakra that Tobi fed was nowhere near the level of Kyuubi or Hachibi's chakra.


    Tobi explains everything. He wanted Juubi at max power, hence why he wasn't too happy about using the bijuu's chakra and why he wanted Kyuubi and Hachibi. Would you settle for 40% when you can get 100%? And wouldn't you try to get 45% if possible rather than 40%? I'm not saying the war makes sense, because if Tobi wanted, he could have gotten Naruto long ago (although that could be explained as well).

Thread Closed
Page 129 of 134 FirstFirst ... 29 79 119 127 128 129 130 131 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts