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    The whitebeard pirates?

    Jinbe mentioned two great changes in the new world, BB's uprising and akainu's transformation of the marines into a more powerful army. Yet, he never actually mentioned what became of the Whitebeard pirates. I think this is a very important detail considering each of their commanders is strong enough to lead a powerful crew on their own to say the least. Did they split? Did they remain together under the leadership of a new captain (marco, vista or jozu would seem to be the more likely candidates)?

    Seeing how Jinbe failed to mention them and how BB seems to have taken most of their territory I get the impression that the WB pirates have split and taken their own paths. It'd be interesting if each commander made their division an individual pirate crew. What does everyone think?
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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    Maybe they split up like when Fisher Tiger died and the Sun Pirates split up?

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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    I don't want it to be this way but they could have tried to get revenge on Akainu and most of them died except for the Commanders, It's very likely that they could have run into a fight with Akainu or BlackBeard, I mean they lost their bother and their father all at once (Not to mention the others who died in battle)

    Look how it's started and how it's ended, they couldn't do damn thing to change what happened, in their place i'll feel like I failed My FATHER and their consciousness won't let them sleep, eat, travel, s**t ... in peace, so in two years I'm sure they tried to do something and failed ... Or Shanks took care of them in one way or another, and when I say took care of them I don't mean they joined him or something ... Although, if they have really split and each one took his own path, then perhaps some of them joined the RED HAIR Crew.

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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    If they did fight Alainu and most of them died, it would probably be the less known (to us) WB pirates. While Marco, Jozu and Vista would still be alive, hopefully.

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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    Indeed, but anger blinds you, making you more prone to make mistakes ...
    And Looking at someone or Standing in front of someone that caused a lot of pain to you will make you really angry --LEADS--> Mistakes, and the last person making a mistake usually loses the fight. Anger like that can be used for a quick burst of energy, but doesn't last too much.

    It's just a mere theory, actually I don't think they all died ... Some of them perhaps joined Shanks as I said in my earlier post, thinking that it's the best way to get revenge on who did that to them, others may have chosen a life entirely different ... but in the end we won't have the same Roger scenario repeated, I mean when he died the entire crew split up and end of story, the situation here is a lot different.

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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    I think Jinbe's failure to mention Marco and the remnants of the Whitebeard Pirates is that information was established at the beginning of the arc. With their captain gone the Whitebeard Pirates lost control of his territories, Fishman Island for example, and were no longer to exert the power and influence the crew once maintained. While many of the commanders are very powerful they are no longer powers, allowing Blackbeard to fill the power vacuum they left in the New World.

    When the time comes for the Strawhats to confront Akainu, I bet former Whitebeard Pirates are involved in the arc. Marco figures to be a prominent character later on. I do not believe the entire crew was killed off scree fighting the Marines, I think they will reappear at some point.

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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    They're probably rogues or wandering around. Or protecting a particular island left by the old man, who knows. It's certain, that we can bet on, that we will see them again.
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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    I think it was kind of implied that the Whitebeard pirates had lost pretty much all of their power with WB's death. Jinbe states that BB conquered all of WB's former territories. That alone establishes the fact that the current WB pirates were and are no match for BB and his crew. My guess is that the WB pirates most likely tried to defend some of those territories and ended up losing and suffering heavy losses. I also wouldn't be surprised if BB went hunting for some of them, especially the DF users. As of right right now they are probably a very small pirate crew hiding out at some corner of the NW waiting for an opportunity to "piggyback" off of someone and get revenge on BB. Chances are that they have become irrelevant at this point in terms of the three great powers of the world.

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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    And I see Jozu being killed and Shiliew with his Diamond DF power... So Zoro will prove during their fight that he can cut even diamond.
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    And Marco joined or will join Shanks- Red Hair invited him once already so If there is no WB pirates anymore I can picture Marco in Shanks crew.

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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    While a possibility I do not see any reason to believe that any former White Beard pirates survived the war only to be killed in the New World. With so many devil fruit users in the world there is no reason, nor indication in the story, that any former White Beard crew members have been killed. And while joining Shanks is possible, it would not really move the plot forward. Most likely Marco led the White Beard pirates back to the New World where they are planning their revenge against Black Beard. They must have quite a grudge after he killed Thatch, jumped ship, turned Ace over to the Marines, and he killed White Beard at Marineford. Marco will surely come to Luffy's aid whenever the Blackbeard arc starts, and will play a role in his defeat. Marco is to strong to be someones lackey, he will likely play a role similar to Jinbe during the Fishman Island arc.
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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    Well, marco was WB's lackey, it is not outright impossible for him to have joined some other crew. Still, he is the most likely to take the lead of the WB pirates but even then I do not quite see him fit to be the captain. I don't think that he would have the necessary implied superiority over people like jozu or vista for him to take the lead of such a crew. Jozu or vista at least would seem to be monsters among monsters, I have my doubts about them simply following after marco's lead. Even if they do, the crew has 11 other commanders and 1600 other crewmates of varying strengths, ultimately it is not a crew just about anyone could lead even if it is someone like marco. IMO the most likely scenario is that the WB pirates have little by little split and taken their own paths and what is left are simply remnants of the once great crew. I don't think it would be that strange for marco to have joined shanks crew in this particular case. Shanks had already displayed interest in him and he was grateful for his help during the war. Overall I could see him ending with shanks.
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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    they are surely around,and they are teaming up with their commanders from the new world,under Commander Marco.they aren't bad people therefore they aren't damaging the new world as is doing teach instead. perhaps they needed a lot of time to recover or they are trying to heal jows's arm.

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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    Who says teach is damaging the new world though? He might be an amoral asshole with no principles but I don't particularly see him acting significantly different from any other pirate for the most part. All pirates in the new world seem to be following their own little dream of conquest towards being pirate king. WB might have appeared to be more reasonable than BB but in the end, would he have hesitated to fight those who oppose him? Perhaps he wouldn't reach the same extremes as BB would but that is not to say he would not go to war over a single man or against a nation for what he would deem to be in the best interest of his crew.
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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    Well IMO i find Marco to be a fairly level headed person. Who would wait for an opportune moment to strike although so of the other commanders might not be as level headed as he is and possible charge right after BB and may have gotten captured or killed. So this could have split up the crew, but I believe that the crew (split or no split) has command of atleast a few islands and has some kind of alliance with Shanks.

    Off topic: It just occured to me that the worst possible person for BB would be a skilled strong non Df user like Shanks.

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    Re: The whitebeard pirates?

    Oda stated in sbs that he wants to show more about Marco’s Devil Fruit. Actually, it would be a good thing Marco joining the Red Hair Pirates and Blackbeard start a fight to get his fruit. It’ would start a war with Shanks, maybe settle a unfinished fight and show more about the phoenix ability.
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