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Translations: Gintama 507 (2)
but I kinda agree, so far Rachel seems rather pathetic because she didn't show us any (impressive) skills yet, it seem like everything is just given to her by the will of Headon.
i dont know why so many people voted'' it is still too early to judge her'' but i am guesing they havent seen the chapter where she is laughing in her room alone....
But I voted like that because SIU said that Rachel was his favorite character, and this is SIU we are talking about(with him you never know what to expect from such statements)...
PS: At the end it might just be that Rachel was so frightened/scared she might have snapped/broke from everything, at the end of first season, when she almost killed Baam. Later with that laughter SIU as he is, might have intentionally shown her like that, why deception is his strong point, and what I also like from Tower of God the most.
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btw do you guys think rachel is behind the bounty who tried to kill koon in the latest chap?
nope i think she(rachel) doesnt even know what is going on because koon himself said someone is using devil of the right arm as bait to capture someone
my theory is horyand or viole but since cassano said '' wait ilmar i will tell u later'' that person could be viole and why the bunny girl asked viole to be his light house bearer and couldnt ask horyang because it is part of plan
its baam's fault for sticking to her...he was literally glued to her...i mean she does not want you to bother her...so get a life and move on man... rather than that i find her boring and creepy...her only significance was that she betrayed baam which lead us to "Baam Part 2: Viole" ...which is pure awesomeness unlike "Baam Part 1" which was as boring as lahal to me... TOG part 1 side characters dominated...part 2 Baam Rules !! (coz of her)
I wouldn't really say I'm a fan of her, but I'm not going to completely hate her when SIU says that she is his favourite character. I smell a redemption coming and if it's SIU then he may be able to pull it off.
The recent Manhwa Awards nominations got me thinking about this and, I'm ready to accept that Rachel is just a heartless @#$@%.
We can't really be sure yet, I think, but with what she did with Baam and how she tried to play Koon and the others she is a sociopath.
My feeling is that she has a more complex motivation behind her actions but in the end what she's done speaks for itself. Nobody lured her into the tower. Nobody forced her to make a deals with the devils to climb it either. There is nothing inherently wrong with her dream of seeing the stars but what defines a person is not a dream but what they are willing to do to achieve it. That's when we found out who she really was, IMO.
Even now, it's all someone else's fault in her mind; and that's even more telling. She under the delusion that she hasn't done anything wrong; and we know, as should she, that's not true. That's the thing about her I really dislike more than anything. The self deception. When I compare her to my favorite ToG character Androssi, who is also a monster of sorts, self awareness is a huge difference.
A part of my favorite quote from her goes like this....
"I really don't know any other way than this.
I'm not expecting you to understand me though, and it doesn't change the fact that I'm a devil either. But I'm just following what my heart tells me to do. Isn't it the same for everyone? Only, we weren't wishing for the same thing."
Rachel could never say something like this because isn't willing to take responsibility for her own actions. When Androssi has done something terrible she sees it for what it is and makes no excuses. She'll do what she wants, and make no apologies for it, but she won't pretend it's not bad. The strong eat the weak, and she's strong. That's the world she knows, and thrives in, and she knows that's wrong.
Rachel doesn't accept that hurting others to pursue her goals is wrong and that makes here a far worse person in my eyes.
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Everyone seems to forget how she repeatedly stabbed Dan's legs. As if there was any doubt she is a heartless b!tch.